Wednesday, March 15th 2023

Reference NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Rumored to Launch at $749

According to the latest rumor coming from Moore's Law is Dead, the upcoming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 could have a higher MSRP than expected, and could launch at $749. Yesterday, another rumor pointed out that NVIDIA is splitting the reviews for the GeForce RTX 4070 on two dates, with reference models that are sticking to MSRP going out on April 12th, and custom, higher-priced versions, a day later, on April 13th. The same date, April 13th, is when the GeForce RTX 4070 should hit retail shelves.

According to Moore's Law is Dead, the MSRP for reference versions will be set at $749.99, which is a bit more than earlier expected, and just $50 less than the launch MSRP for the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti. The custom versions, or "premium" as some now called them, could start at $799.99.
The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 is also based on the AD104 GPU, as the RTX 4070 Ti, but has 46 streaming multiprocessors (SMs), leaving it with 5,888 CUDA cores enabled. On the other hand, it is rumored to come with the same memory configuration as the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, featuring 12 GB of 21 Gbps GDDR6X memory on a 192-bit memory interface. The TGP is set at 200 W.

The performance is expected to land somewhere between the RTX 3080 Ti and the RTX 3080, or pretty much in line with the RX 6900 XT. Of course, a 50% bump in the launch price compared to the predecessor, the RTX 3070, leaves a rather sour taste.
Sources: Moore's Law is Dead (Youtube), via Wccftech
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191 Comments on Reference NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Rumored to Launch at $749

#51
N3M3515
Don't know why anyone would be surprised at $700 - $750 price. Nvidia clearly set the stage with the ultra-over-priced $1200 RTX 4080. Being that the starting point, why would the 4070 cost anything less than $700?
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#52
Keullo-e
S.T.A.R.S.
They should release on the April Fool's day. A total joke for a xx70 card being sold for 750USD.
stimpy88Until they upgrade to a 4K monitor...
Wait, wut? I play at 4K with no issues with a 6700 XT.
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#53
john_
neatfeatguyand then start to fall behind
DLSS 3.0
TheDeeGeeI'll switch to consoles when the follow is possible.
  • Play PC Games from the 90's - 2000's era.
  • Run Steam, GOG and Epic Launchers.
  • Run applications like Photoshop and reWASD.
  • Non-Laggy Mouse and Keyboard support.
  • Run a browser with uBlock Origin support.
  • Ability to mod my games and install fan patches.
  • Convert movies to H.265 (NVENC) with Handbrake.
So for now i'll stick to a PC thank you every much.
Any APU based PC can do all these. If H.265 is important, then maybe an Intel based system with a modern iGPU will be a better option.
Then a console can do the gaming part. The problem here is maintaining two different systems.
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#54
Taisho
KlemcYes, but i'm on 2k, i just received an all new flat-VA 27" 1440p 240hz yesterday...
First of all, not 2k but QHD. 1920x1080 could be named 2k, unlike something that is rounded to 3k. Second of all, this AOC has bad response times and their 165Hz model has far less ghosting.

Back to the topic - monopolies are bad, mkay? NVIDIA wanted Arm, now they want an arm and a leg.
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#55
nja
I have my theory for these crazy price bumps.
Nvidia and AMD are getting caught at their own game. They have been trying hard to push boundaries with performance, but there's something that many people seem to forget: performance has a limit when it comes to "enjoying it"
Just like phones, modern GPUs are getting so fast, especially now with DLSS3 that less and less people will consider upgrading every gen or so..
Look at phones and how Samsung has upgraded their updates schedule. It's because they KNOW that people now keep their phones for more than 4 years! And they want them to stay with Samsung!
We're getting close to a point where we almost have too much performance... With massive bottlenecks such as resolutions (who can tell the difference between 4k and 8k on a monitor?), games not getting any particulary beautiful anymore... Who's going to upgrade their 4090 next gen if they play at 1440p or 4K? There's no point! And the 5000 series will make this even worse!
A good exemple of that are SSDs. Why are SSDs sales dropping so hard? Well it's because many people got their hands on the fastest gen 4s out there.. Which means that they won't have any reasons to upgrade anymore for a while! While all these brands are investing in Gen 5, which won't make a difference for 99% of people!
This particular exemple can be applied to gpus aswell.
We need a major technological advancement to be convinced to upgrade. This is why Nvidia pushed DLSS and RTX. And locked DLSS3 to 4000s. Because they KNOW that people are getting "too satisfied" with what they have!
Products such as games are failing to follow the crazy pace that manufacturers like Nvidia have set.
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#56
Pumper
spanjamanAs expected from a big company leading in the market with the best product...
It's sad,
but it is the reality we live in.
That only applies to 4090. 4070 is trash, especially at that price.
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#57
Dristun
Calling it now in advance:
"The RTX4060ti has 16GB of VRAM over 128-bit bus... now you don't know what the hell to do, do ya?"
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#58
Unregistered
PumperThat only applies to 4090. 4070 is trash, especially at that price.
I'd still buy 4070 rather than 7900xt and avoid loads of problems with AMD drivers...
Just a thought.
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#59
GerKNG
should be launching at april 1st...
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#60
KarymidoN
I hope my 1070 don't die anytime soon, gpu market is a complete joke. the last 3gens had me not wanting to play any new games.
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#62
Zareek
Ngreedia = Deaf Ears
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#63
Unregistered
dalekdukesboywww.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-rx7900xtx-pg-24go/p/N82E16814930081?Item=N82E16814930081

I just got this for 999.99, a 3 (8) pin overclocked non-reference 7900 xtx…who would pay barely 200 Dollars less for a 4070 that this card will absolutely destroy in every category, EVEN ray tracing!
I wouldn't buy that card.
First of all, it's ASRock, second of all, drivers are bad and third of all I could buy 4070ti for the same amount of money.
Performance doesn't matter in some cases.
Nvidia has a better product.
Better product doesn't always mean better performance.
I would love to be able to say AMD driver support is stellar, but it's not.
Every driver iteration people have to root out previous drivers with DDU, I mean, come on...

Nvidia went way too far with its pricing of 40 series... Way, way too far.
It's unreasonable,
but I'll be a fool once more and repeat:
they have a better product.
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#64
Easo
Considering 4070 Ti are almost here 1k here in Latvia... Yeah, this thing will be 900 EUR as well. Mid-range my ass.
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#65
Zareek
spanjamanI wouldn't buy that card.
First of all, it's ASRock, second of all, drivers are bad and third of all I could buy 4070ti for the same amount of money.
Performance doesn't matter in some cases.
Nvidia has a better product.
Better product doesn't always mean better performance.
I would love to be able to say AMD driver support is stellar, but it's not.
Every driver iteration people have to root out previous drivers with DDU, I mean, come on...

Nvidia went way too far with its pricing of 40 series... Way, way too far.
It's unreasonable,
but I'll be a fool once more and repeat:
they have a better product.
Sorry but I didn't experience any of that BS with my Vega 64 but I also bought it more than six months after launch. I've been running a 3060ti now for a long time and the GeForce Experience is still a hot steaming pile. So go ahead and pay more for less. I am DONE with Nvidia and their pushy, greedy ways. I would rather game only on consoles than help them ruin PC gaming.
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#66
Taisho
KarymidoNI hope my 1070 don't die anytime soon, gpu market is a complete joke. the last 3gens had me not wanting to play any new games.
I hope my GTX 950 doesn't die anytime soon. I blame myself for wanting to make a bigger jump than just the 1650 Super and waiting for Ampere. At least I would have a passively cooled rig at idle. 3000h in Europa Universalis IV soon, and I have only played with 3 nations, so still a lot to do. The newest Total War games must wait for better times.
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#67
Unregistered
ZareekSorry but I didn't experience any of that BS with my Vega 64 but I also bought it more than six months after launch. I've been running a 3060ti now for a long time and the GeForce Experience is still a hot steaming pile. So go ahead and pay more for less. I am DONE with Nvidia and their pushy, greedy ways. I would rather game only on consoles than help them ruin PC gaming.
Never, ever in my whole life have I ever had a need for Geforce Experience crapware
It's your own fault you're using that shit.
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#68
neatfeatguy
john_DLSS 3.0
HAHA! Quick, everyone! Turn on that frame generation software to increase latency because.....
Because.....
Ummm.....
Well, because....we need some kind of lame method to make your purchase appear worthwhile and prove that you're getting more for your money.

No thanks. I wouldn't waste my money on Nvidia for this feature now or anytime in the future. If Nvidia needs to rely on special software to keep their new hardware relevant, then they're doing something wrong. I don't even use DLSS/DLSS2 with my 3080. I've tried and the end results always has some kind of fuzzy haze in parts of the game and I don't like it.....almost like a constant motion blur is active.
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#69
Unregistered
EasoConsidering 4070 Ti are almost here 1k here in Latvia... Yeah, this thing will be 900 EUR as well. Mid-range my ass.
Sadly, there is no mid-range anymore.
Not like before.
We can debate here all we want, but the best choice for any of us would be to stick with what we already have.
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#70
erocker
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spanjamanI'd still buy 4070 rather than 7900xt and avoid loads of problems with AMD drivers...
Just a thought.
This isn't 2010. Just a thought.
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#71
Unregistered
erockerThis isn't 2010. Just a thought.
...and nothing has changed since...
just another thought

edit:
to elaborate:
I have a friend who recently bought 7900xt
I mean, there's nothing wrong with the card
it's just that he can't seem to install the drivers properly.
After installing the latest drivers all he gets is a black screen.
He had to install an older driver just to get a picture on his screen.

Now, you tell me people, how some people install AMD drivers properly and some can't.
With or without DDU.

To cut the long story short; he's returning his card to buy Ngreedia like we all say here.
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#72
Easo
spanjamanSadly, there is no mid-range anymore.
Not like before.
We can debate here all we want, but the best choice for any of us would be to stick with what we already have.
I understand inflation and all, but regarding GPUs - it's simply greed. Other components, like storage, even high endish one has definitely seen improvements in all senses, cost per 1 GB and all that.
GPUs, however jumped up to heaven after Covid start (with couple signs before) - and never let go afterwards, there always was another excuse.
Yes, voting with your wallet is an empty pipe dream, but accepting this? Nah. Then again considering the dropping sales and their attempts to compensate that by even higher prices... it might fail and they will be forced to make changes.

But yes, if you have a good recentish card right now - stick to it, upgrade the rest.
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#73
GerKNG
neatfeatguyHAHA! Quick, everyone! Turn on that frame generation software to increase latency because.....
Because.....
Ummm.....
Well, because....we need some kind of lame method to make your purchase appear worthwhile and prove that you're getting more for your money.

No thanks. I wouldn't waste my money on Nvidia for this feature now or anytime in the future. If Nvidia needs to rely on special software to keep their new hardware relevant, then they're doing something wrong. I don't even use DLSS/DLSS2 with my 3080. I've tried and the end results always has some kind of fuzzy haze in parts of the game and I don't like it.....almost like a constant motion blur is active.
TL;DR you never used DLSS 3
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#74
oxrufiioxo
neatfeatguyHAHA! Quick, everyone! Turn on that frame generation software to increase latency because.....
Because.....
Ummm.....
Well, because....we need some kind of lame method to make your purchase appear worthwhile and prove that you're getting more for your money.

No thanks. I wouldn't waste my money on Nvidia for this feature now or anytime in the future. If Nvidia needs to rely on special software to keep their new hardware relevant, then they're doing something wrong. I don't even use DLSS/DLSS2 with my 3080. I've tried and the end results always has some kind of fuzzy haze in parts of the game and I don't like it.....almost like a constant motion blur is active.
While it's still a little rough around the edges I find Frame generation to be pretty impressive in CP2077 and Witcher 3. Nobody should be buying an Ada gpu for it though at least in it's current state but it's far more useful than the first iteration of DLSS which was terrible.

Watching it on YouTube is absolutely useless btw it really needs to be actually used in person to get a good grasp of what it is doing.

That being said even if Frame generation worked perfectly in every game 750 usd for this terrible 4070 is laughable.
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#75
Defiant_676
spanjaman...and nothing has changed since...
just another thought
im chilling with a 7900xt on my work pc and a 7900xtx on my main pc at home.. 6900xt, Radeon VII and rx 570 before as well, never have i ever had a driver problem or crashing or anything besides smooth gaming which is mostly the division 1 and 2 plus some battlefield 4 and 1, only problems was unstable undervolting which is a user error.

if u haven't experienced a recent AMD card, then don't believe just anyone about drivers, unless you're sure they own the product and not just lying to hate on AMD, i can play and record any game you play and you can see how smooth and stable it would run, so you don't have to feel trapped into just buying from 1 vendor and paying more and more even if you're getting less,

pc gaming as you know is all about choices in hardware and thankfully AMD and Intel are competing in GPUs, hope intel comes up with something better in the future compared to Arc, and AMD needs to be less greedy, 7900xt shoulda been $699/$750 tops for a custom model.

best regards!
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