Tuesday, January 9th 2024

Intel APO Coming to 12th Gen and 13th Gen Core Processors After All?

Intel is reportedly bringing Application Optimization (APO) to its 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" and 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" processors after all, PC Gamer reports. APO is currently restricted to 14th Gen Core i9 and Core i7 "Raptor Lake Refresh" processors, and the upcoming 14th Gen HX Core i9 and Core i7 mobile processors based on this silicon. An extension of the Dynamic Tuning Technology (DTT), APO is an application-specific scheduler optimization that makes hardware resources of Intel's Hybrid processors "correctly" available to the application. This requires Intel to study the application itself, and validate its optimization on a per-processor model basis (which is Intel's explanation as to why it isn't available across all its Hybrid processors). On optimized games—of which there are currently 7—APO is found to offer frame rate uplifts ranging between 10% to 16%. At this point we don't know exactly which other 12th and 13th Gen processors Intel plans to extend APO to, but it's likely only to the Unlocked K or KF SKUs, as PC Gamer notes.
Source: PC Gamer
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14 Comments on Intel APO Coming to 12th Gen and 13th Gen Core Processors After All?

#1
theouto
Almost like they are the exact same architecture! Who would've guessed! This also further invalidates the 14th gen, which is absolutely hilarious
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#2
GerKNG
isn't it just a software switch to park the cinebench accelerators?
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#3
Daven
GerKNGisn't it just a software switch to park the cinebench accelerators?
This made me laugh which is rare this early in the morning after just one sip of coffee. Lol!

Nice post
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#4
R0H1T
Something something to do with 5700(x3d) & the other chips AMD released :rolleyes:
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#5
iameatingjam
They're also adding games... a total of 14. I was half expecting nothing to ever happen with apo. Anyway, glad intel eventually made the right move.
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#6
ThrashZone
Hi,
Carrot on a stick to buy 14 series
Guess it worked and they're done withholding apo to 13-12 series lol happy new years :slap:
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#7
aktpu
btarunrof which there are currently 7
Where can I find up to date list of supported games?
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#8
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
aktpuWhere can I find up to date list of supported games?
There's no master list, but check out the slide in the newspost.
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#9
iameatingjam
aktpuWhere can I find up to date list of supported games?
According to intel there isn't one.



Which I thought was kind of funny when there was only two supported games which literally would have taken up less characters than this explanation. But I guess if they do intend on continually updating it... kind of makes sense.

I was just reading from here:

www.pcgamer.com/intel-to-roll-out-14th-gens-game-optimization-software-to-older-1213th-gen-hybrid-cpus-after-all/
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#10
ThrashZone
Hi,
Pumping up ms store traffic are they, and shifting the apo inquiries on ms as well
That's really nice of intel :cool:
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#11
iameatingjam
ThrashZoneHi,
Pumping up ms store traffic are they, and shifting the apo inquiries on ms as well
That's really nice of intel :cool:
Yeah I know right, when I was first trying to get this set up, the MS store wouldn't let me download the program and I didn't know why. I guess I had to have the drivers, but gigabyte didn't have drivers yet, I had to use asrock drivers (and they worked, surprisingly -only figured it out thanks to reddit). Would have been a whole lot easier if intel just hosted everything that was needed with instructions.
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#12
pressing on
GerKNGisn't it just a software switch to park the cinebench accelerators?
In part APO works by disabling three out of four cores in two E-core clusters. This leaves a single active E-core with all of the shared L2 cache for the cluster to itself (for Raptor Lake, this is 4Mb). Intel has restricted APO to the 14900K/KF that has four clusters of four E-cores and 14700K/KF that has three clusters of four E-cores presumably to leave at least some full clusters functioning. Owners of Intel 12/13/14 gen CPUs with E-cores can partially emulate APO by disabling three out of four per cluster using Windows CPU Affinity.
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#13
chodaboy19
Intel made owners (12th and 13th gen) angry by first withholding this half-baked tech, now they are making all owners (12th, 13th and 14th gen) mad by providing this half-baked tech. Intel marketing wins again! :D
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#14
Upgrayedd
btarunrThere's no master list, but check out the slide in the newspost.
That's also wrong though. There's more than 7 on that slide. There's 8 on that slide and more on Intel's screenshot on their website but there is no list that says a specific number.

I haven't found anywhere who is keeping track of the titles either. I know Intel is but they are not publishing a list. It's more than 7 and it's more than 8. They aren't bragging about it much and idk why. Maybe because of the flak about 12th and 13th.
Pretty much nobody is checking it out because they think it's only Metro And RS6 right now. When it's not.
pressing onIn part APO works by disabling three out of four cores in two E-core clusters. This leaves a single active E-core with all of the shared L2 cache for the cluster to itself (for Raptor Lake, this is 4Mb). Intel has restricted APO to the 14900K/KF that has four clusters of four E-cores and 14700K/KF that has three clusters of four E-cores presumably to leave at least some full clusters functioning. Owners of Intel 12/13/14 gen CPUs with E-cores can partially emulate APO by disabling three out of four per cluster using Windows CPU Affinity.
They also just disable HT. In less threaded titles
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