bugOverclocking as a whole is in a pretty tight spot. Modern CPU clock themselves as needed, there is little left for the casual overclocker. So yes, the only thing you can do is go overboard. Which would suck for most consumer parts, I guess it's ok for a KS one.

dgianstefaniYou still have the P cores with at least 400 MHz improved frequency. You don't notice the E core frequency unless you're an epeen warrior comparing benchmarks because whatever you're doing in the foreground isn't running on them.

dgianstefaniTired of people assuming tuning the top tier chip is stupid or somehow worse than buying a lower tier bin that's slower in all respects. A higher bin will tune better even at the same power limits.

AusWolfI used to ask "What's the point?" when you could gain 10-20% performance by overclocking. The question is even more relevant these days. :D

To be fair, I much prefer the current way (throw your stones, people, I'm ready). :)

You can buy the biggest cooler and go balls-to-the-walls, or just enable a stricter power/thermal limit with one click, and you still have all the performance that your cooling can handle. No tinkering needed.

AusWolfI used to ask "What's the point?" when you could gain 10-20% performance by overclocking. The question is even more relevant these days. :D

To be fair, I much prefer the current way (throw your stones, people, I'm ready). :)

You can buy the biggest cooler and go balls-to-the-walls, or just enable a stricter power/thermal limit with one click, and you still have all the performance that your cooling can handle. No tinkering needed.


Fair enough. I guess disabling e-cores and gaining the extra KS factor on the p-cores is a thing. :)


Whether you notice it or not is a different story. I tend to say, if you choose the top-end, then don't hold back on the motherboard, PSU and cooling, either. If you're more budget-conscious, or just want something more reasonable, then the top-end is not for you anyway.

dgianstefaniYou can disable HT on P cores for even more frequency and lower thermals too, plus forcing processes to run on physical cores. Not necessary when E cores exist anyway. Hence why next gen has no HT.

dgianstefaniDisabling e cores allows the ring to be clocked much higher and also allows around 100 extra MHz on the P cores. But not worth it as the P cores now have to run the background threads. Better to just set them to 3.2 GHz and tune the P cores for frequency.

You can disable HT on P cores for even more frequency and lower thermals too, plus forcing processes to run on physical cores. Not necessary when E cores exist anyway. Hence why next gen has no HT.

atomekI'd love to see efficiency benchmarks, especially with comparison to Apple Silicon ;)

AusWolfI totally agree, although I can't imagine anyone buying a Keep Spending CPU and then clocking it down or limiting it in any other way. That's what the non-prefix 14900 is for.

JismBy spec yes. But any other proper build PSU can go 3x beyond that easily.

400W consumption is really nothing. Server boards have roughly just 4 VRM's powering CPU's with 400W easily.

But this is quite stupid. AMD was flamed, burned for releasing a 220W FX Chip that would run up to 5Ghz and was a world class OC'er. Now intel is in the same boat. releasing 410W CPU's (at most worst conditions). Cooling a chip like that in such density is almost impossible.

pressing onIt is very common for these chips to be undervolted. Partly because some Z790 brands - I'm looking at you Asus - supply far too much stock voltage with the resulting power draw and heat issues. But Intel continues to sell these chips, probably in quite small quantities so someone is happy to keep spending on them. The KS range started with the Coffee Lake 9900KS - will be there be an Arrow Lake KS? I don't think so.

P4-630Pentium 4 EE anyone?

Outback BronzeI got one of those too ;)

VarioWhat will your cooling setup be for the 14900KS?

AusWolfI used to ask "What's the point?" when you could gain 10-20% performance by overclocking. The question is even more relevant these days. :D

To be fair, I much prefer the current way (throw your stones, people, I'm ready). :)

P4-630Pentium 4 EE anyone?

Dimitriman360 AIO or don't bother? This seems so pointless. Besides, the 14900K is already well positioned enough.