question is Inno3D any good compared to the Bigger Companies like EVGA, BFG,XFX, Sapphire, HIS, Visiontek?

Nitro-MaxIve got to get me one of those or maybe 2??
how long till these are out?

They are to come June25 .

As for the guy that post the ATI =260 and the 280 is the king ....Bull 2 4850`s beat it in crossfire what is 2 4870`s gonna do? also at the $600 -700 price tag for the 280 what is the King ?

And its so Sexy.....

its not quad pumped GDDR5 does 4 clocks per cycle so GDDR5 @1000mhz is 1000x4.

So GDDR5 @ 3.6ghz is really running @ 900mhz x 4 if you look at GDDR5 reviews.

Its SDR to DDR confusion all over again

FiReStOrM315selene NV card is expensive because the waffle that it's made on is expensive and the die for the gtx200 is huge!so they cant fit as much on the waffle

It's wafer not waffle (unless you mean the food)

It's wafer not waffle (unless you mean the food)

haha!!yeah wafer thanks for that correction :laugh:

mmmm waffles, tasty

interesting review, to say the least.

I'm impressed a single 4870 is out running the 3870x2.

Even still, the performance difference at this point is still within a very respectable range of the 280 and GX2 - I think a couple of new driver releases from the red camp will be able to narrow that performance gap even more.

I'm even more impressed by how well the card fares once the eye candy is turned on. It seems like in every game bench, 8xAA and 16xAF has very little impact on it's performance . . . and benchmarking at those high resolutions with full eye candy seems to negate any performance lead the green camp has.

That, right there, after the AA hit the 3870s were taking, is a major feat that ATI is deserving of much praise for! :toast:



-edit-

and something further I just realized as well - the specs of the 4870 appear to be near identical to the 4850, except for the presence of GDDR5. If the 4870 is truly running that much faster over the 4850 at the same GPU clock speeds . . . it'll be interesting to see how well they'll perform once the top-tier brands start releasing their OCed models.

sorry sent as pm ..

Found an updated English link in expreview hire .

why 265 bit, i am expect 512 bit, i think the 4870 compare it with gtx280, but the gtx 260 have 449 bit, we know it is must better than 3870x2, what is ati doing

hayder.masterwhy 265 bit, i am expect 512 bit, i think the 4870 compare it with gtx280, but the gtx 260 have 449 bit, we know it is must better than 3870x2, what is ati doing

This has been discussed many times before.
512bit GDDR3 < 256bit GDDR5

ya lets not start into that stuff again ok.