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Who'll be the better president?

Who'll be the better president?

  • Barack Obama

    Votes: 1,290 57.9%
  • John McCain

    Votes: 333 14.9%
  • But I want George W. Bush

    Votes: 177 7.9%
  • Don't care

    Votes: 429 19.2%

  • Total voters
    2,229
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Ok. I know you Murdoch haters will probably just skip this, but you should not.
A great breakdown of the VP debate, with a lot of cross references and validations of the fact that the MSM (Main Stream Media) and their 'fact checking' have skewed the report in the direction of Biden.... I.E. not "HIGHLIGHTING" Biden's errors and mis-statements, while trying to paint Sarah Pailin as a ditz... (For Europeans, DITZ = 'air head', 'space cadet', 'moron')

LINKY! : http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433314,00.html
 
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Ok. I know you Murdoch haters will probably just skip this, but you should not.
A great breakdown of the VP debate, with a lot of cross references and validations of the fact that the MSM (Main Stream Media) and their 'fact checking' have skewed the report in the direction of Biden.... I.E. not "HIGHLIGHTING" Biden's errors and mis-statements, while trying to paint Sarah Pailin as a ditz... (For Europeans, DITZ = 'air head', 'space cadet', 'moron')
IMO it depends a bit whether those so called errors are on the same level as Obama's 'errors'. If so, it's quite irrelevant. But Palin didnt get a lot in the news anyway. Only that the points where she could recruit voters on dont seem to be ground breaking for the target people. Last VC debate the media showed that she did a lot better than previous times and both made errors.

I think that because of the reasons McCain called Palin to be 'perfect' weren't true on all (major) fronts, people try to show that she's not that McCain said she is.

It's like a bit with the Titanic so to say, they called it unbreakable yet it wasnt at all.

But, I dont really have a lot of attention to the VC's really. I barely know Biden, I barely know Palin. Maybe it's McCain's fault Palin is hunted so much regarding the 'unbreakable' statement:confused:
 
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Ok. I know you Murdoch haters will probably just skip this, but you should not.

To help our European friends understand the feelings towards Fox News (Rupert Murdoch's News Organization) by many Americans:



DISCLAIMER: This image is not intended to be an example of the opinion of this poster or any other posters. It is simply a humorous visual aid designed to explain a situation.
 

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HAHA.

And Clinton News Network is better???

Even Hillery called FOX the more fair network when it came to coverage of these elections...

PS - I added the FOX link above...
 

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To help our European friends understand the feelings towards Fox News (Rupert Murdoch's News Organization) by many Americans:



DISCLAIMER: This image is not intended to be an example of the opinion of this poster or any other posters. It is simply a humorous visual aid designed to explain a situation.
:roll:Awesome

HAHA.

And Clinton News Network is better???

Even Hillery called FOX the more fair network when it came to coverage of these elections...

PS - I added the FOX link above...
'More fair' does not mean it's fair and unbiased. FOX is crap
 
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HAHA.

And Clinton News Network is better???

Even Hillery called FOX the more fair network when it came to coverage of these elections...

PS - I added the FOX link above...

I've never understood why people call CNN the "Communist News Network" or the "Clinton News Network."

I remember, many years ago (about 2003 or so), watching the Bill O'Reilly show for some reason (I actually watched his show back in the day before it turned out he was an adulterer), and he had a guest -- I believe it was the Reverend Al Sharpton.

Their conversation proceeded, and at some point Al Sharpton brought up the accusation that Fox News was a tool of the Bush Administration, had a clear right-wing bias, etc.

Bill O'Reilly proceeded to show him how CNN had members of the Bush Administration on its channel (giving interviews, that kinda thing) far more often -- I think the ration was about 3 to 1. In this respect, it was clear that CNN pandered to the Bush Administration far more than even Fox News did.

I wish I could find a transcript of the conversation, but my point is that I don't know why right-wing-leaning people call CNN "liberal," when it's clear they're anything but. CNN is beloved by old people, and old people are notoriously conservative.

Come on -- who doesn't remember their grandparents watching nothing but CNN? :laugh:
 

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First thing Hitler did was take all the guns. House to house search. If you wanted a weapon, you had to be a police officer or in the military.

Then, when he had all the guns, he began systematic racial genocide against the people he thought Unpure.

And he banned tobacco....

He nationalized industry (socialised). He stole from his people in the name of the state...

He was very bad.

And yes, killing hitler at some various point during his rule could have effected change within the Reich.


Did the US not ban alcohol at some point?
 
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Yes they did, from 1920 to 1933.
 
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Did the US not ban alcohol at some point?

Yeah, but it doesn't matter -- hypocrisy has always been so common in society people stopped noticing it hundreds of years ago.
 

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Yeah, but it doesn't matter -- hypocrisy has always been so common in society people stopped noticing it hundreds of years ago.

Ahhhh right, I only mentioned it because when I said the election should focus on the future, the reply from BJ was that people should not forget the past, I agree with that but as I said, the ELECTION should focus on the future and as BJ mentioned in the past about Hitler and his banning tabacco, I thought a similar event in US history might be appropriate :D Getting back to the present.....doesent large parts of Alaska still ban alcohol? :p
 
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Ahhhh right, I only mentioned it because when I said the election should focus on the future, the reply from BJ was that people should not forget the past, I agree with that but as I said, the ELECTION should focus on the future and as BJ mentioned in the past about Hitler and his banning tabacco, I thought a similar event in US history might be appropriate :D Getting back to the present.....doesent large parts of Alaska still ban alcohol? :p

As long as the government makes a crap load of money off of tobacco, we'll be seeing it for a while... :(

Hate the smell, and people use it everywhere. You can tell how much a person smokes by walking by them. =P
 
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Ahhhh right, I only mentioned it because when I said the election should focus on the future, the reply from BJ was that people should not forget the past, I agree with that but as I said, the ELECTION should focus on the future and as BJ mentioned in the past about Hitler and his banning tabacco, I thought a similar event in US history might be appropriate :D Getting back to the present.....doesent large parts of Alaska still ban alcohol? :p

Large parts of quite a few places in the US still ban alcohol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county
 

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Large parts of quite a few places in the US still ban alcohol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county
But is this seriously accepted? More states have the laws that atheists are not allowed to have an office and what else, but this seems to be overran by USA government. So how does the USA government respond to that?
 
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But is this seriously accepted? More states have the laws that atheists are not allowed to have an office and what else, but this seems to be overran by USA government. So how does the USA government respond to that?

It's accepted, and enjoyed by the populace -- even if they don't obey the law in the privacy of their own homes. Like I say, hypocrisy comes naturally to most people.

Laws that say that atheists aren't allowed to hold office? You're going to have to give me a source for that.

Go Farrakhan:rockout::rockout: If Farrakhan likes him,...he must be good.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=77539

You Obama-haters practically froth at the mouth over this stuff, don't you?

 

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But is this seriously accepted? More states have the laws that atheists are not allowed to have an office and what else, but this seems to be overran by USA government. So how does the USA government respond to that?


No, by our constitution, unless it violates a US constitutional matter, local governments can do what they want. For example, in Georgia, where I live you can sit in a bar watching football getting drunk all day on sunday, but you cannot go to the grocery store and purchase a 12 pack...
 
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It's accepted, and enjoyed by the populace -- even if they don't obey the law in the privacy of their own homes. Like I say, hypocrisy comes naturally to most people.

Laws that say that atheists aren't allowed to hold office? You're going to have to give me a source for that.



You Obama-haters practically froth at the mouth over this stuff, don't you?


Is G.W running again? and the only staement in that cartoon thats true is the bottom right one. :laugh: just kidding hes not a Muslim :laugh:
 

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It's accepted, and enjoyed by the populace -- even if they don't obey the law in the privacy of their own homes. Like I say, hypocrisy comes naturally to most people.
So much for the land of the free:laugh:

Laws that say that atheists aren't allowed to hold office? You're going to have to give me a source for that.

Thingy 1
Thingy 2
Thingy 3

And for the few who watched a certain Top Gear program; Thingy 4, no this wasnt acted.

And so on and so on, shamefull:shadedshu
 
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Go Farrakhan:rockout::rockout: If Farrakhan likes him,...he must be good.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=77539

Does that make Obama affiliated with them?

Nope, it just makes great fodder for the dumbest Americans scared of the "Negroes".:nutkick:

I am sure the KKK and Neo Nazi's like McCain and Palin because they are Lilly white and running against a black man.

Does that make McCain/Palin affiliated with them? Nope.:wtf:

So just realize that smear tactics just shows a lack of maturity or intellect of those spreading them. I encourage everyone to talk about the issues. Ignorance is nothing to be proud of.


Key issues are: Abortion, Immigration, Gay Rights, Regulation of the Economy and so forth. It takes intelligence to debate the issues. Please, lets talk about the issues at hand.
 
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abortion: only in cases of rape or where the mother is in danger of loosing her life (also the mom shouldn't have to pay for the rape case...)
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gay rights: yes they should have them, let hem marry and enjoy all the freedom that EVERY other American can enjoy (don't bring religion into it, it doesn't have much merrit in a political debate)
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gun control: let the people have them, but seriously maybe a little more on the control part, who the hell really needs an SMG or a fully auto rifle? a shotgun or pistol is sufficient for home security

also maybe we should do something about simplifying the tax code...
also what do you guys thing about that nice little missile defense sites we have popping up next to russia and various other places over the world, do we really have a right to put them there? or do you think the "ends justify the means" type of thought?

i will expand on any of my views if anyone asks...
 
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abortion: only in cases of rape or where the mother is in danger of loosing her life (also the mom shouldn't have to pay for the rape case...)
immigration:don't care if they are here as long as they are here legally, there is enough room for everyone
gay rights: yes they should have them, let hem marry and enjoy all the freedom that EVERY other American can enjoy (don't bring religion into it, it doesn't have much merrit in a political debate)
reg of economy: bail out BAD IDEA, going to get worse before it gets better, no point in prolonging suffering
drug laws- decriminalize MJ, or make it legal, it can be taxed and controlled like tobacco, and has many health benefits, free up BILLIONS in the prison system from minor drug offenders, but keep the real drugs very illegal ie crack, heroin, ect...
gun control: let the people have them, but seriously maybe a little more on the control part, who the hell really needs an SMG or a fully auto rifle? a shotgun or pistol is sufficient for home security

also maybe we should do something about simplifying the tax code...
also what do you guys thing about that nice little missile defense sites we have popping up next to russia and various other places over the world, do we really have a right to put them there? or do you think the "ends justify the means" type of thought?

i will expand on any of my views if anyone asks...


You will be my write in:toast:
 
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