OFFICIAL Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim (Discussion)

[yogurt_21]

I found i could equip two rings today, dunno why all of a sudden, but as long as the ring do different things, i can wear two of them, one boosts bow damage, the other increases carry weight.

that makes more sense, in both oblivion and morrowind you could equip 2, 1 per hand. It's a pretty standard rpg rule.

 

[Black Panther]

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[theJesus]

I haven't been able to equip more than one ring :/

 

[Super XP]

I haven't been able to equip more than one ring :/

Hopefully the update resolves this so we can use two rings per hand, though we all know for a fact if this was for real, we would pile on the rings on each finger of each hand

Hopefully the update fixes this 2GB limit crap.

 

[theJesus]

Hopefully the update resolves this so we can use two rings per hand, though we all know for a fact if this was for real, we would pile on the rings on each finger of each hand

Hopefully the update fixes this 2GB limit crap.

Really, we should be able to have 10 rings, at least two earrings, robes over light armor or clothes, lower armor separate from upper armor, bracelets, armbands, all sorts of stuff

 

[phanbuey]

^^ I agree - but there should be interactions with magical items that you are wearing... Like if you put too +magica stuff you start hallucinating, too much +strength/+melee damage and you have a chance of randomly punching the person you are talking to in the face (in a fit of rage)... etc.

That would be pretty entertaining, and would go some way to fix the whole "no downside to spamming enchantment/alchemy/smithing" cycle.

... same thing with Alchemy... yes you just drank the +100% smithing potion, but it has also given you severe ADHD, so instead of that armor, you ended up crafting an excellent Dragon Bone Fruit Bowl.

 

[Frizz]

Really, we should be able to have 10 rings, at least two earrings, robes over light armor or clothes, lower armor separate from upper armor, bracelets, armbands, all sorts of stuff

enchanted body ink

 

[theJesus]

^^ I agree - but there should be interactions with magical items that you are wearing... Like if you put too +magica stuff you start hallucinating, too much +strength/+melee damage and you have a chance of randomly punching the person you are talking to in the face (in a fit of rage)... etc.

That would be pretty entertaining, and would go some way to fix the whole "no downside to spamming enchantment/alchemy/smithing" cycle.

... same thing with Alchemy... yes you just drank the +100% smithing potion, but it has also given you severe ADHD, so instead of that armor, you ended up crafting an excellent Dragon Bone Fruit Bowl.

No I prefer the idea of just having more powerful items require certain skill levels to be able to use. IE: Item with awesome destruction buffs requires high destruction skill

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

well I had a blast trolling Bethesda's tech support

I asked about Large Address aware, why its so hard for bethesda to implement it, why there forcing me to use a mod to get the game stable.. but wait they dont support mods officially... oh whats that there VP of Marketing fully endorses the 4gb mod because it fixes so many issues?, why is it I have to choose between stability or crossfire on a AAA game.

I was told they dont support multi gpu's period, and that they cant help me with the game if i modify any content, because they dont endorse modding,

I then went on to say oh really? then explain why every elder scroll game has mod support high on the list, why if you dont support it, everyone in your company raves how awesome it is, for the end user and how glad they are to see the community flourish? why is it a renamed exe or exe profile to Oblvion.exe allows xfire to work, but these changes cant be used with the 4gb mod which isnt neccesary if you didnt dick around with DRM

Why cant bethesda save me time and effort and just make the game LAA by default, I mean its pretty sad a pirated version gets patched and can be made LAA aware. so why am I a paying customer being saddled with a shittier gaming experience while a pirate gets to enjoy it stable and running find and dandy with all the edits they want with crossfire enabled

He then told me I have no responses for that... and niether will a supervisor we cant pass information along to the developers.

I simply inform him, its okay your just doing your job, but from what i see this means your tech support is a worthless dog and pony show with no real purpose other then for you to look down at a cheat sheet and go through the same crap with every customer I can recite what it is your going to tell me if you want but ill save us both time. Im the kind of customer you get warned about. I do know more then you and I will make life miserable. Dont worry you did well but Im not your typical customer. Ill enjoy dealing with your supervisor next.

 

[phanbuey]

No I prefer the idea of just having more powerful items require certain skill levels to be able to use. IE: Item with awesome destruction buffs requires high destruction skill

That would work too...

Also, it would be nice if on master difficulty, instead of going the whole "give everyone a ton more HP and Damage" route, have it be harder because it is more realistic. "No, you can't run around with 4 battleaxes, 3 sets of armor and 35 gallons of potions."

two-four potions (how many bottles can you realistically carry, and still fight with a weapon?), and the more stuff you are carrying the more weighed down you become, less stamina etc.

 

[NinkobEi]

well I had a blast trolling Bethesda's tech support

I asked about Large Address aware, why its so hard for bethesda to implement it, why there forcing me to use a mod to get the game stable.. but wait they dont support mods officially... oh whats that there VP of Marketing fully endorses the 4gb mod because it fixes so many issues?, why is it I have to choose between stability or crossfire on a AAA game.

I was told they dont support multi gpu's period, and that they cant help me with the game if i modify any content, because they dont endorse modding,

I then went on to say oh really? then explain why every elder scroll game has mod support high on the list, why if you dont support it, everyone in your company raves how awesome it is, for the end user and how glad they are to see the community flourish? why is it a renamed exe or exe profile to Oblvion.exe allows xfire to work, but these changes cant be used with the 4gb mod which isnt neccesary if you didnt dick around with DRM

Why cant bethesda save me time and effort and just make the game LAA by default, I mean its pretty sad a pirated version gets patched and can be made LAA aware. so why am I a paying customer being saddled with a shittier gaming experience while a pirate gets to enjoy it stable and running find and dandy with all the edits they want with crossfire enabled

He then told me I have no responses for that... and niether will a supervisor we cant pass information along to the developers.

I simply inform him, its okay your just doing your job, but from what i see this means your tech support is a worthless dog and pony show with no real purpose other then for you to look down at a cheat sheet and go through the same crap with every customer I can recite what it is your going to tell me if you want but ill save us both time. Im the kind of customer you get warned about. I do know more then you and I will make life miserable. Dont worry you did well but Im not your typical customer. Ill enjoy dealing with your supervisor next.

I'm glad I dont work in tech support and have to deal with people like you all day.

 

[theJesus]

That would work too...

Also, it would be nice if on master difficulty, instead of going the whole "give everyone a ton more HP and Damage" route, have it be harder because it is more realistic. "No, you can't run around with 4 battleaxes, 3 sets of armor and 35 gallons of potions"

The only problem with that is how the fuck do you get your loot out of the dungeon? Hell, how the fuck do you get anything anywhere? They'd have to give you some damn strong pack animals and some good town-portal spells (can only be used outside of combat) so you can properly transport loot.

 

[phanbuey]

The only problem with that is how the fuck do you get your loot out of the dungeon? Hell, how the fuck do you get anything anywhere? They'd have to give you some damn strong pack animals and some good town-portal spells (can only be used outside of combat) so you can properly transport loot.

Thats why it would be hard, the realism would make it harder... you could only take small valuable loot and gold, and you would have to make tons of choices about what gear to replace. Your gold supply would grow really slowly, and the game would be totally different than on expert/adept (also the enemies would be harder, but not to the point that a mudcrab can take out a fully armored level 9 Paladin).


@crazyeyesreaper: Damn dude... you do realize that you occupy like 0.5% of the population that goes to tech support with questions like that. Of course it is not designed for you, since most users out there are closer to the "I double clicked it and the game doesnt launch" demographic.

No tech support will support modding officially - because most of the time the company didnt write the mod, so tech support would not know anything about it, and thus they couldnt support it even if they wanted to. Also Crossfire support should be an AMD issue, maybe its not - i dont know much about that, but it sounds like a driver could fix it.

 

[pantherx12]

Currently doing the liberate skyrim set of quests, on the section " meet the men" (so I've reclaimed two places and "convinced" someone else) how ever I have no map marker and their appears to be no men on the road leading to solitude.

Can someone show me on a map where I'm supposed to go?

( I found a storm cloak camp but no one was there that I could talk to)

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

thats just it phanbuey

because of how the SKyrim 4gb mod works

no drivers from AMD will fix crossfire to work properly so essentially for stable game play your forced to run 1 card for now.

sadly a cracked game, the exe is no longer encrypted so you can just use Ford's tool to make it LAA and then use radeon pro to set the game to use oblivion crossfire, what this means is the pirated versions can run with all bells and whistles retail versions currently cannot.

Bethesda's VP of marketing endorses the 4gb Mod on skyrim nexus, Bethesda dosent plan to address the LAA issue, or multi gpu issues. so essentially as a paying customer there telling me get bent. its okay. tho, I already know HOW to fix my problem and im working on it right now

I just felt like pissing some Bethesda employees off since they work for a company thats dumb enough to essentially break compatibility and features that are standard these days on PC's lol so while im the .5% you have to remember that .5% is also 99% of TPU

even if it gets me nowhere. I know that when im done, bethesda will probably use me as training for there employees on customers to watch out for and how to deal with them lol.

now to wait for the supervisor to respond.

Also whats hilarious is. Gabe Newell commented that piracy is of no concern to him with Steam, that they offer a great service, that makes gamers want to use there service. All i can think is great idea you do make sense Gabe now how about you stop fucking with the DRM and exe encryptions so i can make games i paid $$$ for run properly and still make use of driver optimizations lolz

anyway im just busting peoples balls because I can and because Im bored.

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

because Im bored.

Watch out world!

And Phan the people you referenced are about 25% of the usual demographic max. The other 75%-e.g. the vast majority-is something like "I single-clicked the game and nothing happened" or "Steam? This isn't a virus, right?"

 

[Horrux]

OK I searched this thread and couldn't find anything so here goes my question:

I had to reformat and reinstall win 7 because of a major change of hardware.

I of course backed up my c:\users folder, and now I restored it. Normally my save game files should be there, but skyrim does not offer me the "load" option at launch, and steam says it can't sync...

What more do I have to do?

Thanks

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

save 1 game,

then move your saves into that folder problem solved. did this myself earlier

 

[Horrux]

save 1 game,

then move your saves into that folder problem solved. did this myself earlier

Damn I hate it when the solution is so simple it makes me look stupid.

Thanks, though...

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

no problem i had the same herp derp moment you did earlier. i tested an illegitmate version of skyrim vs my retail versions to see the difference, and save games didnt work... so i had that same brain cramp and had to ask myself why? lol

 

[MainframeTM]

Hopefully the update fixes this 2GB limit crap.

I wouldn't hold your breath on this one. Beth has never given a exe of theirs the ability to go over the 2GB limit. this very reason still is why I've not completed much of Oblivion. by the time I set it up it crashes when it hits the max limit. Even with the exe changes to use more then 2GB it always crashes.

 

[burtram]

I just realized this the other night, there is no "spell crafting" in this game is there? (or have I not found that capability yet?) I liked in Oblivion and Morrowind making my own spells, and having the choice of "on target" or "on touch" part of the spells, letting you mix up the combat a bit.

 

[Widjaja]

I just realized this the other night, there is no "spell crafting" in this game is there? (or have I not found that capability yet?) I liked in Oblivion and Morrowind making my own spells, and having the choice of "on target" or "on touch" part of the spells, letting you mix up the combat a bit.

No spell making, just as there is no staff making to enchant staffs.

 

[Super XP]

well I had a blast trolling Bethesda's tech support

I asked about Large Address aware, why its so hard for bethesda to implement it, why there forcing me to use a mod to get the game stable.. but wait they dont support mods officially... oh whats that there VP of Marketing fully endorses the 4gb mod because it fixes so many issues?, why is it I have to choose between stability or crossfire on a AAA game.

I was told they dont support multi gpu's period, and that they cant help me with the game if i modify any content, because they dont endorse modding,

I then went on to say oh really? then explain why every elder scroll game has mod support high on the list, why if you dont support it, everyone in your company raves how awesome it is, for the end user and how glad they are to see the community flourish? why is it a renamed exe or exe profile to Oblvion.exe allows xfire to work, but these changes cant be used with the 4gb mod which isnt neccesary if you didnt dick around with DRM

Why cant bethesda save me time and effort and just make the game LAA by default, I mean its pretty sad a pirated version gets patched and can be made LAA aware. so why am I a paying customer being saddled with a shittier gaming experience while a pirate gets to enjoy it stable and running find and dandy with all the edits they want with crossfire enabled

He then told me I have no responses for that... and niether will a supervisor we cant pass information along to the developers.

I simply inform him, its okay your just doing your job, but from what i see this means your tech support is a worthless dog and pony show with no real purpose other then for you to look down at a cheat sheet and go through the same crap with every customer I can recite what it is your going to tell me if you want but ill save us both time. Im the kind of customer you get warned about. I do know more then you and I will make life miserable. Dont worry you did well but Im not your typical customer. Ill enjoy dealing with your supervisor next.

Well said. And once again the paid customers get screwed again by a gaming company. I've said this once and I will say it again, the more they keep pushing crap like DRM the more people will move to pirate copied games. Beth sucks for this dam 2GB limit.

Also where the hell is both AMD and Nvidia? They should be leading the charge to get these companies to fully support Crossfire/SLI.

I wouldn't hold your breath on this one. Beth has never given a exe of theirs the ability to go over the 2GB limit. this very reason still is why I've not completed much of Oblivion. by the time I set it up it crashes when it hits the max limit. Even with the exe changes to use more then 2GB it always crashes.

They better or I'll be forced to mod the game myself, though there updates always screw with that.

Truthfully they lack bloody brains, we should just BOYCOTT companies like this despite how much I like the Single Player games they release.

 

[MainframeTM]

They better or I'll be forced to mod the game myself, though there updates always screw with that.

Truthfully they lack bloody brains, we should just BOYCOTT companies like this despite how much I like the Single Player games they release.

I totally agree. I still don't understand why there shouldnt @ least be a x64 exe for most games hanging around. My experience with them is limited but isn't it simply the 32exe flagged to allow more then 2GBs right? Well then those of us who need it should be able to find the file and overwrite the 32 bit version. @ least throw us a bone beth!

you give us the ability to mod your games (which is good & I've been modding since Morrowind) but then now that it's grown your putting limits on it by not supporting 64bit exes. It makes no sense.