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Download Windows 10/11 ESD

I'm noticing a lot of problems with Edge. For example, you can't middle mouse click on it when it is pinned to open another window. You have to open a new tab in the existing Window and drag it out.

Also, a lot of websites have problems with it. I tried to place an order through Steam with it and on the payment page, it just scrolled "Working..." I hope these Insider Builds are improving Edge. It really sucks having so many sites not work on IE11 anymore and many other sites not working on Edge.
 
They don't update Edge performance-optimization wise. They only add new features like tab preview, new icons and so on, just UI tweaks. Try to open MEGA with Edge or try to open big PDF file. CPU and RAM usage will skyrocket.

All sites work with IE11, haven't encountered a single site that didn't support it.
 
Let's see...problems with Edge (excluding the few already mentioned):
-when default page is set to about:blank (because about:start is bloated), it doesn't automatically put the cursor in the address bar. You have to physically click it before you can type anything.
-No right-click -> Refresh. In fact, there's hardly any options in the right click menu.
-When downloading files, it doesn't prompt/stop/warning you about downloads in progress.
-When initializing a download, it automatically names and saves it in Downloads, no options.
-No address bar drag and drop functionality. By that, I mean you can't drag it to the Favorites Bar or to the desktop to create a link quick and easy.
-Favorites Bar links are not resizable; they clip whatever doesn't fit in the predefined space. Context menu here is also ridiculous...can't even rename the link after it has been made.
-Even though Edge should have better compatibility because it is an HTML5, I'm increasingly finding it does not. There are a lot of sites that won't work with it.
-Some websites have "View Source" disabled. That shouldn't be possible.
-Lots of options missing not just in Settings (like the ability to clear some things on browser close) but major productivity options like making downloads have its own dedicated button and get rid of "Share" and "Make a Web Note" are not available.
-I had Edge lock up on me once and...I think the entire explorer.exe locked up with it. IE11 was pretty quick to realize the shit has hit the fan and moves quickly to rectify it. Edge doesn't even seem aware there was shit in the first place.
-Virtually no options (that I could find) while looking at a PDF. For example, I was looking at many PDFs and couldn't find a quick and easy way to scale the PDF so it occupies more of the browser window to make it more readable.

I've only used it a few days on a handful of websites. Edge needs a ton of work. It definitely isn't ready for primetime. It doesn't need new features; it needs existing features fixed and polished.
 
^ Nice points

Some more:

- right click won't work on context menu items (works in IE11)
- no separate window for downloads (aka good old ctrl+j)
- clicking 'clear all' downloads will interrupt all downloads in progress (no interruptions in IE11)
- lots of content won't render in PDF because of paranoid "security" reasons.

Edge is too metroish. It looks really good on touchscreen but for normal good old desktop it's totally useless. It's minimalistic UI is a nightmare for normal desktop use.

It's nice that W10 uses IE11 x64. In windows 7 it ran x86 by default.


Verdict: Edge sucks. Any other current browser and pdf viewer are better. Of course Edge is the fastest browser in all Microsoft synthetic tests but who cares about synthetic tests?
 
I think it IS Metro (e.g. Surface RT)...they just gave it a name so they can market it. XD

IE11 on Windows 7 was a hybrid application. I believe the core executable ran as 32-bit but tabs opened as 64-bit instances--that might be backwards. It was very different from IE9/IE10 where it was explicitly 32-bit or 64-bit. IE11, it isn't explicit.

Edge is noticeably faster than IE11 in pretty much every regard but that doesn't do much good if it is generally not friendly to use and has issues with major sites.
 
I can make a link to Win10 Pro UK 64bit ISO from my drive if anyone needs it.
 
Build 10575 comes next week, so I can happily skip 10565 and 10568, yay!

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Drone said:
Another good news: since builds 10565/68 W10 supports nested virtualization
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Now you can Windows while you Windows, in a Window, in your Windows.
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I wish Windows had a Window to keep Windows from rebooting Windows, when I am not watching Windows.

I don't mind the daily Windows Updates, Defender definitions, but will they please stop forcing reboots? WTH? If I could, I'd hack their servers and force reboots, randomly. See how they like it!!

:shadedshu:
 
Now I can windows that, windows this, windows there, windows here........ windows everywhere :)
 
Arjai said:
I wish Windows had a Window to keep Windows from rebooting Windows, when I am not watching Windows.

I don't mind the daily Windows Updates, Defender definitions, but will they please stop forcing reboots? WTH? If I could, I'd hack their servers and force reboots, randomly. See how they like it!!

:shadedshu:
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Reboots can be scheduled, they're not forced. W10 will have more reboots than all previous Windows iterations because lots of cumulative updates are coming every week. Unfortunately Windows' core isn't 'flexible', some kernel file changed and you need a reboot. Even insider builds, just a little tweak here and there and there's a new build with new number lol, just because of that you have to download gigs of esd files and install them.

Maybe someday Windows will be like iOS or Linux but not today.
 
Yesterday installed 10576 from Fast ring on two laptops. Pretty nice build much better than annoying 10568.
Clean installed W10 pro x64 takes only 10 GB.

They renamed System to System and compressed memory since build 10565 I guess.

Here's an article about compressed memory feature which will be introduced in final th2 which is really close now.
 
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FFS this thread got buried ...... anyways updates:


Microsoft finally released Windows 10 TH2. Public permanent direct links from Microsoft, for everyone, forever yada yada bla bla bla:


Windows 10 TH2 Pro X64
Windows 10 TH2 Pro X86

You can find the esd decrypter in the opening post.

For everyone who (for some reason) needs Windows 8.1 RTM Pro REFRESH here direct links:

Windows Blue August 2014 RTM Refresh X64
Windows Blue August 2014 RTM Refresh X86

And newer builds:

Windows Blue November RTM Slipstream X64
Windows Blue November RTM Slipstream X86


And of course Windows 10 TH1 RTM PRO links are in the opening post. Valid and working.

Download, decrypt, burn DVD or make a bootable USB with ZOTAC tool, install and work or do whatever you're doing.
 
They fixed bluetooth stack a bit. Controller handling. The sfc scannow works now fine without errors. A very fine build indeed. Very stable.
 
Thanks drone. I was having trouble updating from 10240 to 10586, this solved my problems.

I didn't even know about TechBench until now.
 
The latest build of windows 10 i have is 1511 OSBuild 10586.3.
I am not a insider either.
 
Atomic77 said:
The latest build of windows 10 i have is 1511 OSBuild 10586.3.
I am not a insider either.
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thanks for this invaluable information and congratulations, professor!




Good news, Microsoft finally posted updated drivers for Broadcom Wlan for Win10 Th2. No more problems with disappearing wifi anymore! *runs to install*

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Laptops updated this morning to version 10586.3 ( 1511 ). Update went fine for the most part. On the Dell, the windows control panel crashed after the update-> reason was Dell's audio drivers. Uninstalled and voila, everything worked fine. I am looking for a solution there. On the Lenovo (mine ) the Dolby digital drivers are still not working, making the crappy speakers of my Edge, sound even crappier. How hard it is to make decent audio drivers honestly ??? Two different brands can't get their s**t together. Apart from that I run disk clean up to remove the 20GB of windows.old + temporary installation files.
 
^ That's true some drivers for W10 aren't perfect yet. Luckily they're working on it. They already fixed Intel graphics and Broadcom Wlan drivers.

Here's latest Realtek Audio for W10 x64
 
Not the biggest fan of this new update for Windows 10, it broke my ability to connect to my Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter, when i click on the notification icon and click Connect or Project it tries to connect even my MWDA says so and then after a little my Win10 Pro just says Couldn't Connect.

I updated driver for my Intel Wireless-AC 7260 to the newest that was released 6 days ago (09/11/15) but that doesn't help.

I am using the newest firmware on my MWDA, it worked before the update and it works fine on my Lenovo ThinkPad E540 running Win8.1 Pro, so i think the miracast function most be kinda broken.
 
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