Melt Down Spectre update (have you)?

[fullinfusion]

Has any one deliberately refused like me to not update the Bios micro code bios updates and also M$ patches?

Tell me if you did or not and the reason why.

I have a new, actually a few bios updates and one I do see is to do with Samsung NVME SSD fixes but I still haven't updated.. I wished I could have the Bios update without the firmware specter update involved

 

[Frick]

M$, so edgy. I wish using that term resulted in an automatic warning for being bloody to old and stupid.

Haven't updated anything since january since I have no internet at home, so no.

 

[natr0n]

No spectre/etc updates
I always use official stock windows iso's. Then disable updates from the get go.

The only thing I update is gpu drivers on occasion if needed.

I don't like things/updates stealing performance. I dont even use antivirus programs on my systems.

 

[AlwaysHope]

This whole mess with Spectre & Meltdown just shows how the industry has concentrated on IPC efficiency with CPU design & outright speed at the expense of practical issues like security.
But on the other hand, I kinda give thanks to those hackers & practitioners of malware for exposing this in the 1st place.

One of the ironies of life I guess.

 

[Frick]

I don't like things/updates stealing performance. I dont even use antivirus programs on my systems.

So you have a computer for the purpose of not using it?

 

[cucker tarlson]

No, I did no updates, I don't give a crap, this whole thing is blown out of proportion. People whine about those computer bugs, meanwhile I don't give a crap about that but I had my wallet with money and documents stolen twice this year. Hacker attack ain't the one to f**k you up.

Still,it says I'm meltdown protected, just no specter.

 

[Final_Fighter]

i think people should care about this because the last thing you want is somebody hacking into a company/government computer that is holding your information such as credit cards and other valuable information. as for the average everyday pc user this whole thing was blown out of proportion. this is mainly a concern for corporations and government entity's. if an individual is on the receiving end of any attack as intense as a spectre or meltdown then its more then likely from extremely bad luck, porn or some other reason and problem they need to get solved.

 

[Laurijan]

With my z77 mobo and a i5 3570k i didnt do a bios microcode update agaihst this treat but my z370 mobo i did it the first day i got it. with an old cpu the performance drop is much more. with a 8700k its neglegtible

 

[fullinfusion]

No spectre/etc updates
I always use official stock windows iso's. Then disable updates from the get go.

The only thing I update is gpu drivers on occasion if needed.

I don't like things/updates stealing performance. I dont even use antivirus programs on my systems.

hear hear same here, thank you!

 

[Apocalypsee]

I've updated the latest beta BIOS for my asrock motherboard. Noticeable slowdown, even boot took longer now. Dont know the jittery I noticed when gaming is because of this or not but I did noticed it back then when doing Windows update. I reverted it back and it becomes better. Kinda regreted updating it

 

[Tomgang]

No i have not and i have no plans on doing so either.

For older systems performance loss can be around 10-15 % and i am not ready to give up on that.


On another thread for updates on x58 gave other problems as well like oc on blck wheree no longer working properly and cpu seems to run hotter to.

Se thread here.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/new-microcode-for-bloomfield-and-gulftown.243353/

So no i am not touching this trash. My system runs really great now and i dont want to ruin that with these updates.

 

[Vayra86]

I've updated and don't see any issues. Performance is stellar.

That being said, not updating mobo BIOS... you're just one of the millions who don't have the update, and a potential target for any large scale exploit attempt on these vulnerabilities. Is it a huge risk? No, but its a risk regardless, and one that you can mitigate. Considering the target group is pretty big, the likelihood of this happening at some point is very significant. People only think 'Me? Im not important or valuable to hack'. No, but when you are one of a few million, that is one hell of a sweet target. And on top of that, you've already wasted your chance of fixing the leak by not updating, so don't expect MS to cover your ass after that fact...

 

[95Viper]

I updated... noticed no slow downs. Better safe than sorry, later.

 

[toyo]

I've updated to the last BIOS. It contains even the (what i assume to be) experimental Spectre V4 microcode, Speculative Store Bypass. It didn't enable automatically like the past ones, even though both Windows and BIOS support it, so I left it disabled.
There is some performance hit, but it's so small it's imperceptible for what I do with the PC, for example having 200 instead of 205 score in Cinebench, or 1450 instead of 1460, which can even be put to background activity. I think the SSD performance was affected more, but only in Magician, not Crystal Disk Mark or ATTO. Weird.

 

[John Naylor]

I have yet to read a single "ooh lokk what happened to me / this guy" post related to Meltdown of Spectre

 

[OneMoar]

Nope not worth the performance hit even went so far as to flash a custom bios that uses the last pre spect microcode
disabled the osside migigations via powershell

 

[INSTG8R]

Sure. If my Mobo gets a BIOS 3 years later I’m gonna flash it.

 

[Vayra86]

I have yet to read a single "ooh lokk what happened to me / this guy" post related to Meltdown of Spectre

Of course, individuals never get targeted, only groups. When a Spectre or Meltdown malware is deployed, it will hit a massive group instead. You dont write something like that to target one guy, and it is likely a one shot as well because the first big exploit in the wild will cause people to respond.

 

[trparky]

Yes, I have performed the update. As your screenshot says, your system will not experience the supposedly "huge" performance losses that older chips will experience. OK, so you may lose a few frames per second on a modern processor but are you really going to be able to tell the difference other than in synthetic benchmarks? Nope, not at all.

Now if you have an older processor then yes... you're going to see a performance hit but that's to be expected. Time to upgrade. Perhaps give some money AMD's way.

 

[chaosmassive]

Never update windows ( in fact I disable immediately windows update in services as soon as first time boot in desktop)
Never install Spectre/Meltdown patch

because it really annoy me when CPU usage 100 when idle

 

[OneMoar]

Never update windows ( in fact I disable immediately windows update in services as soon as first time boot in desktop)
Never install Spectre/Meltdown patch

because it really annoy me when CPU usage 100 when idle

disabling all windows updates is stupid and is exactly the reason microsoft moved to force enable

 

[trparky]

Must... not... talk... about... the... lack... of... security. *slaps face and walks away from thread*

 

[OneMoar]

Must... not... talk... about... the... lack... of... security.

there is no need to talk about it when he gets all the malware and no UWP apps will run because windows update is not running then he will find out

there's a HUGE difference between disable a specific fix and not updating at all
the whole spectr thing was way overblown and as I said in the original thread these fixes are NOT required in 80% of use cases and effectively zero percent on the end user desktop

as programs can be written to mitigate it without nuking performance system wide (e.g chrome )

 

[Vario]

I put the bios updates with the security fixes on the two Z370 boards I have. AsRock's bios updates are an easy process.

 

[MrGenius]

Nope. Not havin' it. No BIOS updates available for any of my motherboards anyway. Not that I'd use them even if there were.