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What will you do after January 14, 2020?


Nope, that's for the ten years period. I'm talking about SAC (Semi-Annual Channel, the old Current Branch for Business). Although, the extended support (which is actually 30 months, not three years as I thought before) is only available on Enterprise and Education. And, again, I think that you need special servicing tools (WSUS or System Center Configuration Manager) to avoid OS upgrades during all that time.

Sources: Lifecycle fact-sheet and Release Information
 
Nope, that's for the ten years period. I'm talking about SAC (Semi-Annual Channel, the old Current Branch for Business). Although, the extended support (which is actually 30 months, not three years as I thought before) is only available on Enterprise and Education. And, again, I think that you need special servicing tools (WSUS or System Center Configuration Manager) to avoid OS upgrades during all that time.

Sources: Lifecycle fact-sheet and Release Information

but if you look carefully at the MS Release info page there, windwhirl, the 1809 release is only available on SAC-T and LTSC channels, there's no SAC channel for 1809 yet.

https://www.askwoody.com/2019/when-...in10-1809-on-machines-set-for-the-sac-branch/
 
I just installed Windows 7 Enterprise today because Windows 10 has gotten slowly worse for me.

The performance is just not there anymore; its an overweight bloated mess. it used to be lean and mean in July 2015.
Had a lot of issues with audio interfaces starting with 1703 I think....I was a first day adopter of WIN 10
and recommended it to everyone. But it got to the point of having to revert the updates 2 times. This was before I heard of the group policy edit.
I think reverting the updates messed up the install. it was taking 2 min to load on an 2000 mb sec NVme SSD....that's just stupid....

Once I got 7 up; i was booting in like 3 sec after post...

I'm going to ride 7 out for awhile. So long as all my software is working. so far my so good. clean as a whistle.
I plan to do regular backups incase I have an issue. But all the drivers on my x79/C600 chipset and NVME drive are good.
Happy to campout on 7 forever as long as I don't have a need for a program that is not compatible.

just my cents....

So far most people disagree with me, and don't have many issues ....(that they know about anyhow)...
I am a little more particular in that i know how my hardware should perform. And when its not; I start digging for
answers.
 
I am on win 10 for a year now and before that i had win 7 enterprise but like they say "all good things come to end" and we must go with time.
 
yes, I have 10 on my other 5 computers and 1 mac on OSX 10.13.6,
I have some Audio production software's that I use in my Studio that
needs to work when I need it too; not when Microsoft want's it to...

I'm hoping to ride out 7 until I really need to upgrade for some reason ...I'm all X79 and x58 rigs,
that work great for my needs. Until 8 and 10 core CPU's are not relevant anymore for the DAWs...
We will see how AMD new Cpu's perform at low latency audio. In this
respect Intel still is king. But I bet AMD will close the gap in the near future.

But yea I'll need to go back to 10 for sure if I upgrade to a new board....
 
Out of curiousity, why would anyone use Windows 7 "Enterprise"?
Easier to use with KMSPi... coff coff.
They had some DVDs around, and a valid licence, yeaaah.
 
I think reverting the updates messed up the install. it was taking 2 min to load on an 2000 mb sec NVme SSD....that's just stupid....


Definitely something wrong with your particular installation. Windows 10 boots up incredibly fast on my laptop. Not sure if faster than Windows 7 would necessarily, but at least comparably fast.
 
Definitely something wrong with your particular installation. Windows 10 boots up incredibly fast on my laptop. Not sure if faster than Windows 7 would necessarily, but at least comparably fast.
I'd agree.
 
Easier to use with KMSPi... coff coff.
They had some DVDs around, and a valid licence, yeaaah.
That's not what I was wondering, Windows 7 Ultimate has everything a general or even power user could need, so what would 7 Enterprise have to offer that would make using it preferable?
Definitely something wrong with your particular installation. Windows 10 boots up incredibly fast on my laptop. Not sure if faster than Windows 7 would necessarily, but at least comparably fast.
With an SSD, the difference isn't really noticeable. It's only a couple of second faster. Yay...
 
That's not what I was wondering, Windows 7 Ultimate has everything a general or even power user could need, so what would 7 Enterprise have to offer that would make using it preferable?

With an SSD, the difference isn't really noticeable. It's only a couple of second faster. Yay...
KMS server validations only work with Pro or Enterprise, so...
 
but if you look carefully at the MS Release info page there, windwhirl, the 1809 release is only available on SAC-T and LTSC channels, there's no SAC channel for 1809 yet.

https://www.askwoody.com/2019/when-...in10-1809-on-machines-set-for-the-sac-branch/

Yes, that is because SAC is meant to be released once Microsoft is sure that most of the bugs in SAC-T have been fixed. The 1809 release will probably be available on SAC after 19H1/1903 reaches SAC-T.

The whole release cycle is something like this: MS Internal builds -> Windows Insider Skip Ahead -> Insider Fast Ring / Slow Ring -> Release Preview -> SAC-T -> SAC

EDIT: I was not satisfied with what I wrote, so I run CMapTools and made something I hope is a little bit better.

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windows 10 for everyone
 
Windows 7 Enterprise is basically the same as Ultimate. But usually is more stable IMOP...

Lol.. yes KMSp was my fall back; but I found a legit key for $6 on Ebay. so no funny business needed....

Which is great. I never did trust the DAZ bootloaders or KMS Pico....I'm sure they both
have lots of dirty ware inside them. PLus the fact everyone and their mother probably reverse
engineers those and repost them online. so you never know what your getting into.
 
I will continue to ignore it. Just less times i'll have to reboot :roll:
 
Gonna make the switch to templeOS.

Okay to be serious, I don´t care. I didn´t care back when XP was dropped and now I´ll do the same and just continue to use 7 on my systems that run on it. Most of them are offline anyway so whats the big deal.
My main system for work and important stuff is already on Win10 for a while now, but not out of free choice but rather because I needed it in order to make use of most recent hardware :/
 
That's not what I'm asking though..

This. Why use it over 7 Ultimate?
I'm running Ultimate, and have been since the expo in Atlanta got me a free license. However, the KMS versions allow for activation of N and E versions, which remove stuff like mandatory IE, windows media player, etc. That's why I would go that route, anyway :)
As for after 2020? I'll continue to run Windows 7 Ultimate, unless the corporation I support which is moving to the LTSB process can manage to license me under their account. And I'm not sure if I'll do it then. 7 is stable for me, and my exposure to vulnerabilities is low. Even with wandering, as I'm prone to saying, "the back alleys of the Internet", I haven't had to deal with a personal instance of a virus or malware on the household PCs for years. I'll stick with 7 until I can't manage to force it onto my next system.
 
you can use Daz Loader instead of KMS and go for Ultimate Version.
I was referring to legal KMS validation, but oh well, you're not wrong.
 
I will keep Win 7 SP1 on my back-up laptop and Win 8.1 on my PC. Win 10 needs a lot more tweaking and deleting certain updates to block telemetry and other direct-spying tools.
 
Anyone here have any experience of running Spybot Antibecon on Windows 10 to enforce privacy. ...? ....... How good it is ? ... Does it work the way intended and blocks Microsoft's Spying.??

Anyone here have experience of using GPEdit to block Microsoft Update in Windows 10 ... ??
 
Continue running Windows 10 like I've been doing since it launched.
 
Havent used 7 for a long time now, will keep on using win10 on main pc and win8.1 on my workbench pc until support ends.
 
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