AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

[bug]

So lets say I purchase a 3600MHz rated RAM kit and mount it in my C7H with a 5800x, enter BIOS and set the default DOCP settings, would that be considered an overclock?

Yes, it would.
Only when both your CPU and your motherboard list 3600MHz as non-overclock can you considered the frequency standard/guaranteed.

 

[AleksBedini]

So 3600MHz is rightfully classified as an OC based on spreadsheet data. Meanwhile from a practical perspective we follow the exact same steps we would follow with a 3200MHz rated kit, which are:
1. Plug in the modules
2. Set the DOCP to default settings and F10 save
3. Enjoy

So from a practical perspective there is nothing that distinguishes a 3200MHz rated memory kit from a 3600Mhz one which would not be the case if we wanted to do some real overclocking

For the RAM, no. For the CPU and motherboard, yes. From that mobos page. Do you understand that the different parts have different rated speeds, so for one it may be an overclock yet for another withing stock limits?

Buying DDR 2133 ram and overclocking to 3200 on your theoretical system is stock for the CPU, but overclocking for the mobo and RAM.

You're after overclocking results, not a review. I don't understand why you can't see those are two entirely different things.

I can see the difference between overclocked and stock clocks it is just when it comes to 5000 series CPUs I can not see any differences between 3200MHz and 3600MHz rated kits except from paper classification (i.e. the above screenshot) and improved performance of course!

Out of curiosity have you ever found a single complain online about 5800x not supporting 3600MHz rated kit?

 

[bug]

So 3600MHz is rightfully classified as an OC based on spreadsheet data. Meanwhile from a practical perspective we follow the exact same steps we would follow with a 3200MHz rated kit, which are:
1. Plug in the modules
2. Set the DOCP to default settings and F10 save
3. Enjoy

So from a practical perspective there is nothing that distinguishes a 3200MHz rated memory kit from a 3600Mhz one which would not be the case if we wanted to do some real overclocking


I can see the difference between overclocked and stock clocks it is just I can not see any differences between 3200MHz and 3600MHz rated kits except from paper classification (i.e. the above screenshot) when it comes to 5000 series!

If it works, yes, it's the same.
If it doesn't work, you can still get it to work if you fiddle with timings and voltages a bit. But then it's not exactly the same anymore
Worst case scenario, you can't get it to work at 3600MHz no matter what and then it's completely different

 

[firemachine69]

I mean cherry picking? I can do the same with Intel.
Su said in the launch vid tha this is the new gaming king yet they did the same schtick as with the 3000 series launch where they optimized their cpu's for certain games. I wanted to see it being faster/same as Intel yet Intel still leads in some games even by more than 5%

It's not just the CPUs. They claimed the 6xxx series of video cards were the 'kings of rasterization'. Yeah, only if the drivers are optimized. Otherwise their $1299 cad GPU can only beat the $799 cad Nvidia card.

 

[Super XP]

Question about some people complaining that the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X runs as hot as 95C or has high Temperature issues?
Not everyone is reporting this, but if you go onto Newegg or Amazon you will read some posters complaining about this.

Those that have the 5800X are you having this weird high temp issue? Did they not seat the processor cooler on properly perhaps?
Perhaps W1zzard can conduct an investigation by temperature testing multiple 5800X's if he can get hands on some of course.
Thank You,

 

[Octopuss]

Uhm, this horse has been beaten like a million times.
ALL of them are hot under load.

 

[Super XP]

Uhm, this horse has been beaten like a million times.
ALL of them are hot under load.

When you say Hot, what temps are we speaking about and what's the normal load temps AMD officially stats?

 

[Octopuss]

I don't know, google it up yourself maybe? I don't think AMD ever said anything about that and for a good reason.

 

[Mussels]

They bluntly and outright said 80-90C is normal for a 5800x and above depending on the type of load

Above 90C i'd investigate the cooling, 80's is totally within the norm (I get mid 80's, but with +200 PBO and 5050MHz boost clocks i accept thats inevitable)

 

[Super XP]

They bluntly and outright said 80-90C is normal for a 5800x and above depending on the type of load

Above 90C i'd investigate the cooling, 80's is totally within the norm (I get mid 80's, but with +200 PBO and 5050MHz boost clocks i accept thats inevitable)

Just the answer I was looking for.
Though, I did do research about this topic online. Just didn't find the answer I was looking for.

 

[Octopuss]

From my extremely limited experiences thus far, the 90° or even above temperatures are most likely only related to stress testing-like load, like Prime95.

While gaming (although BF4 is not very relevant anymore), I saw about 70° max.

 

[Mussels]

From my extremely limited experiences thus far, the 90° or even above temperatures are most likely only related to stress testing-like load, like Prime95.

While gaming (although BF4 is not very relevant anymore), I saw about 70° max.

same, those 80C+ temps were only with all core, all thread synthetic load - gaming is lower

 

[Oasis]

@W1zzard

Did you use the Noctua NH-U14S or the NH-U12S in "CPU Temperature"? ( https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x/20.html )

 

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@W1zzard

Did you use the Noctua NH-U14S or the NH-U12S in "CPU Temperature"? ( https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x/20.html )

Noctua NH-U14S -> Test System