Ryzen 5 3600 turbo speeds

[Mussels]

Gah thats a static voltage? hell no, dead chip incoming

 

[MancLad]

I've gone into the BIOS and reset by loading optimised defaults and it's still showing this:

The CPU frequency is up and down between 3.6 and 4.2 all the time, is this normal?

Thanks again

Should I have started my own post? Just so I know for next time as I don't want to be cheeky putting this on another persons.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

It's okay now, stock operation

I'd recommend uninstalling AI Suite as it's garbage

 

[MancLad]

Thanks for the reply but I was concerned with the voltage still being nearly 1.4v @ stock as the general agreed safe voltages I've read seems to be in the no more than 1.325?

 

[freeagent]

1.325 is probably too high for all work loads too.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Thanks for the reply but I was concerned with the voltage still being nearly 1.4v @ stock as the general agreed safe voltages I've read seems to be in the no more than 1.325?

That's single core voltage. Even 1.5 is safe for single core loads. You had 1.4v for all loads before, including all core loads, which is very dangerous.

For all core loads, let the CPU boost accordingly, it will select a voltage it thinks is safe. 1.325 is not safe for all core on Zen 2, I'd stay at 1.25 max and even then I'd rather have the CPU run on stock. You're no smarter than the CPU, once you set your own voltage you disable all safety features like the voltage fitness regulator and the fate of the CPU is in your hands, so it's best to keep it at stock. If you want more performance, get a good cooler, a board with solid VRMs and enable PBO.

 

[freeagent]

I saw a laugh at my comment, did I say something funny?

 

[Deleted member 205776]

I saw a laugh at my comment, did I say something funny?

No, it's best to leave him to his delusions of 1.37v being safe.

 

[nguyen]

LOL people who think the same "safe Vcore" is applicable to all Ryzen 3000 CPU don't really knows what they are talking about.
It's perfectly normal for the 3600 with slow binned CCD to run at higher voltages than higher binned CCD like 3700X, simply because the 3600 run at much lower frequency (higher core frequency = higher power usage per core)
Here is 1 hour video of Buildzoid explaining safe voltages with different Ryzen 3000 chips.

TL;DW lower core count and lower binned CCD can take higher sustained voltages, also it's better to run Normal Load Line Calibration to avoid damaging the chip.

No, it's best to leave him to his delusions of 1.37v being safe.

Yeah if you like anecdotal evidence so much how about running stock voltages can degrade the chip too

Proof of stock settings degrading 3rd Gen Ryzen performance

About a year ago (beginning of August 2019), not long after Third Gen Ryzen was released I bought the hardware my friend in Sweden needed to build his new computer. I had a spare Gen 2 512 GB NVME M.2, a 512 GB SSD, an 8 TB HD drive and a Noctua NH-U9S Cooler which I could give him, and so it...

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Without actual statistical data you are just talking out of your ass

I saw a laugh at my comment, did I say something funny?

It's funny cause you don't even have the same 3600 CPU and think 1 voltage level apply to all Ryzen CPU

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Whatever you say, I made my point in this thread a million times already. We don't like dead CPUs here. I don't like advocating for people to put bullshit voltages on their CPUs either, especially not now.

 

[freeagent]

It's funny cause you don't even have the same 3600 CPU and think 1 voltage level apply to all Ryzen CPU

I have a 3600XT. I wouldn't run more than 1.268v all core all load. It can take a little more, but no need to kick the shit out of it. You take that 1.37 and fire up Linpack Xtreme and let me know your thoughts.

Its funny how you assume things. I am assuming things about you right now..

 

[nguyen]

Whatever you say, we don't like dead CPUs here. I don't like advocating for people to put bullshit voltages on their CPUs either, especially not now.

Sound like you don't have any actually experience nor knowledge working with 3600 to talk about bullshit voltages

 

[Deleted member 205776]

I wouldn't run more than 1.268v all core all load

Look, someone with common sense, as opposed to the one above me.

Sound like you don't have any actually experience nor knowledge working with 3600 to talk about bullshit voltages

 

[WhitetailAni]

I've observed this behavior of CPU voltages flipping all over the case as well. I'm on stock settings with PBO enabled, and when GPU Folding the CPU voltages flip from 1.1 to 1.3 to 1.41, seemingly at random.

I used to run it at 4325 MHz, 1.45V, but I was not responsible for that voltage (AI Suite 3 set it) and I set it back to stock.

I'm not planning to overclock it, as it's plenty fast for me, but a word to the wise - don't use AI Suite 3 or 1usmus' Clocktuner for Ryzen.

Gave me 1.49V. That got removed quick.

Sound like you don't have any actually experience nor knowledge working with 3600 to talk about bullshit voltages

I do, though, as I run one.
You NEVER EVER EVER run above 1.45V for all-core. I did it for 2 months, and I wasn't able to hit 4.3 again. Max I could get was 4.2 (at 1.45V, don't worry, I didn't keep it there).

Now please stop spreading misinformation.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Gave me 1.49V. That got removed quick.

1usmus fantastic software gave me 1.55v and an AVX test right after. Surprised my CPU hasn't exploded.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Without actual statistical data you are just talking out of your ass

And yet, all data proves otherwise, stop beating a dead horse with uncompleted tests and complete cope.

 

[WhitetailAni]

1usmus fantastic software gave me 1.55v and an AVX test right after. Surprised my CPU hasn't exploded.

I saw it set to 1.49V and I immediately went OH NO CRAP and just reset my PC.
Booted into Safe Mode and yeeted ClockTuner out of there.

Never using it again.

 

[nguyen]

And yet, all data proves otherwise, stop beating a dead horse with uncompleted tests and complete cope.

yeah let disregard "well known" sources and listen to newbie enthusiasts on the internet

 

[Deleted member 178884]

yeah let disregard "well known" sources and listen to newbie enthusiasts on the internet

Yeah let's disregard every single article proving you wrong whilst you pretend suicide voltages are just fine, quite ironic there buddy.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

I saw it set to 1.49V and I immediately went OH NO CRAP and just reset my PC.
Booted into Safe Mode and yeeted ClockTuner out of there.

Never using it again.

Me too, instead of shutting down my PC his software (which at the time requested admin privileges mind you) decided to just spam "VOLTAGE TOO HIGH REBOOT REQUIRED". I instantly rebooted my PC out of fear. None of that shit is worth it. Setting my CPU to a static frequency and voltage actually made it feel sluggish. On stock it feels more responsive to my actions, I guess due to it changing clock states about 1000 times per second. Some of those clock states might be in the high 4.5 GHz as opposed to a static 4.2 GHz.

yeah let disregard "well known" sources and listen to newbie enthusiasts on the internet

Take two 3600s, leave one on stock, and the other on your beloved 1.37v all core, and see which one dies faster. You should definitely collab with 1usmus on ClockTuner as you seem to enjoy unreasonable voltages.

 

[nguyen]

Take two 3600s, leave one on stock, and the other on your beloved 1.37v all core, and see which one dies faster. You should definitely collab with 1usmus on ClockTuner as you seem to enjoy unreasonable voltages.

Funny that I get lower core temperature with static 4.1ghz/1.37Vcore on my 3600 by 10C compare to stock clocks/voltages with PBO, so I guess I might as well be extending the life of my 3600, but not to the point that is last longer than its usefulness period (5-7 years).
Well if you treasure PC hardware that much why not just use 1.1Vcore then , why bother with 1.25VCore at all?

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Funny that I get lower core temperature with static 4.1ghz/1.37Vcore on my 3600 by 10C compare to stock clocks/voltages with PBO

Come back when you run an all-core load then let us know how it compares in current since quite evidently you don't understand how to test properly.

 

[nguyen]

Come back when you run an all-core load then let us know how it compares in current since quite evidently you don't understand how to test properly.

How about you buy a 3600 and test it yourself

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Funny that I get lower core temperature with static 4.1ghz/1.37Vcore on my 3600 by 10C compare to stock clocks/voltages with PBO, so I guess I might as well be extending the life of my 3600, but not to the point that is last longer than its usefulness period (5-7 years).
Well if you treasure PC hardware that much why not just use 1.1Vcore then , why bother with 1.25VCore at all?

Of course I treasure it, I'm not rich to pay current prices for a 3900X, or can afford just buying new CPUs every time one dies. If you can afford that more power to you, degrade all the CPUs you want captain.

I'd also like other people's CPUs to remain intact and advise them to do so accordingly. Manual OC on Zen 2 is stupid and rarely brings any significant uplift unless the user likes to do multithreaded tasks like rendering vids all the time, which most people don't. Even then it's barely a difference over stock or stock with PBO.

To increase Ryzen performance I'd much rather OC RAM and the IF.

 

[nguyen]

Of course I treasure it, I'm not rich to pay current prices for a 3900X, or can afford just buying new CPUs every time one dies. If you can afford that more power to you, degrade all the CPUs you want captain.

I'd also like other people's CPUs to remain intact and advise them to do so accordingly. Manual OC on Zen 2 is stupid.

So why are you not using 1.1Vcore then? or 1.0Vcore?
Just because you are a single 3900X sample doesn't mean you know how all the 3600 should work, that's not how anything works LOL