NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5050 Uses Slower GDDR6 Memory, Based on GB207 Silicon

[john_]

No, your statement is a scam. The 1060 3GB was an excellent budget card, full effing stop. Just stop with your nonsense.

It was a total scam. You can keep posting the same mistake over and over again, it's not going to become truth.

The 3GB version was a card with no future because of it's memory capacity and a scam because while having the same model number, it was in fact a cut down die.

Now, you want to put more laughing smiles and call a different opinion "nonsense" and the 3GB model "excellent budget card", be my guest. The reality is that the 3GB VRAM capacity was a kill switch and the naming misleading.

...and being a lot cheaper. 6 GB version wasn't worth it, it was too close to 1070 in price.
RX GPUs are fine and dandy but they ain't exactly the best power efficiency. Also they weren't better value, they mostly were a little more expensive than 1060s. So perhaps in Greece it was daft to buy 1060; in Russia it wasn't.

Cheaper yes, but against 8GB models, like the RX 480, from AMD? Nvidia puts lower prices to products that will perform well today, but they will start failing much sooner and they do that constantly, for probably a decade or two, by cutting memory capacity or memory bandwidth. The 6GB GTX 1060, or the 8GB RX 480/580 could be bought and used for years. And the RX cards where selling for cheaper most of the time. The 3GB model not so much. It was looking cheap compared to the 6GB model, but it wasn't a good option when considering the competition from the RX cards.

Show me the slot powered RX580

Yes, yes, RTX 3050 6GB is better than the RX 6600. Nice logic.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The 3GB version was a card with no future because of it's memory capacity and a scam because while having the same model number, it was in fact a cut down die.
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Now, you want to put more laughing smiles and call a different opinion "nonsense" and the 3GB model "excellent budget card", be my guest. The reality is that the 3GB VRAM capacity was a kill switch and the naming misleading.

Those are differences in specs between models. This is common and is done by everyone and always has been. Where have you been, under a damn rock?

How about the GTX 260 VS the GTX 260, eh?

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 Specs

NVIDIA GT200, 576 MHz, 192 Cores, 64 TMUs, 28 ROPs, 896 MB GDDR3, 999 MHz, 448 bit

www.techpowerup.com

GIGABYTE GTX 260 Core 216 OC Specs

NVIDIA GT200B, 650 MHz, 216 Cores, 72 TMUs, 28 ROPs, 896 MB GDDR3, 999 MHz, 448 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Or perhaps the GTX 560 VS GTX 560, hmm?

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Specs

NVIDIA GF114, 810 MHz, 336 Cores, 56 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 1024 MB GDDR5, 1000 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 OEM Specs

NVIDIA GF110, 552 MHz, 384 Cores, 48 TMUs, 40 ROPs, 1280 MB GDDR5, 802 MHz, 320 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Or maybe the RTX 3060 Vs RTX 3060?

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8 GB Specs

NVIDIA GA106, 1777 MHz, 3584 Cores, 112 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1875 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Specs

NVIDIA GA106, 1777 MHz, 3584 Cores, 112 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 1875 MHz, 192 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Are any of THOSE cards scams too? Hmm? And the correct answer is...

It was a total scam.

No, not a scam. It's called a difference in model specs and nothing more. By your daft logic, the 3060 8GB must be a scam because it's got a lower VRAM bus width and only 8GB of VRAM compared to it's 12GB sibling.

it's not going to become truth.

Neither is your version of supposed "facts". Do you think anyone is taking you seriously? Your special brand of drivel is not convincing anyone with any modicum sense.

 

[john_]

This is common and is done by everyone and always has been.

You do realize that you are only showing Nvidia examples right? Maybe you who is living over the rock, you think that Nvidia is everybody. Well, that world of yours is pretty dull.

No, not a scam. It's called a difference in model specs and nothing more.

With the same name? Once upon a time, Nvidia was more honest and would have put an LE after that 1060.

Neither is your version of supposed "facts". Do you think anyone is taking you seriously? Your special brand of drivel is not convincing anyone with any modicum sense.

You think that they are taking you seriously? Have you seen your posts? If the opinion isn't aligning with your, you just become rude, like what you are doing here, attacking the person instead of attacking that opinion by offering some counter arguments.
Your only argument here is "you post nonsense". Please, explain to me and all those who don't take me seriously, but take you seriously, how a 3GB card costing as much as 8GB models that where performing more or less the same, was a better buy.

 

[lexluthermiester]

You do realize that you are only showing Nvidia examples right?

Oh, please. I could take you to task with AMD and Intel examples as well. Save that nonsense for someone else.

With the same name?

AMD and Intel do the exact same thing. And for the record, NVidia CLEARLY defines the differences between the 1060 3GB and the 1060 5GB(yeah that exists, is THAT one a scam too?) and 1060 6GB. It's not like they're selling different cards under the exact same name.

You think that they are taking you seriously?

The folks who use their brains for something more than a seat cushion generally do.

If the opinion isn't aligning with your, you just become rude

No, I become unpleasant when people take personal jabs and make condescending remarks, or try to peddle their special brand of bullshit to the masses. I ALWAYS post up strongly to that crap. I'm well known for it. You managed to hit the trifecta here.

Now, we're discussing the imminent release of the RTX 5050, then you were attempting, and failing, to claim some sort of scam was going on. That's your failure, not mine, not the other readers or forum members, not NVidia's, not the AIB's, yours. Unless you can prove your assertion...

 

[john_]

Oh, please. I could take you to task with AMD and Intel examples as well. Save that nonsense for someone else.

Sure, but it is easier to find Nvidia examples, right?
The most fun with Nvidia is the low end parts. GT 730 in particular. Under the same model number you could find Kepler, Fermi, 64bit, 128bit, GDDR3, DDR5 specs. A huge mess, but it was a low end card and with an Nvidia logo on it, so no one bothered.

AMD and Intel do the exact same thing. And for the record, NVidia CLEARLY defines the differences between the 1060 3GB and the 1060 5GB(yeah that exists too, is THAT one a scam too?) and 1060 6GB. It's not like they're selling different cards under the exact same name.

Examples? Again, it's easier to find example from Nvidia. I don't remember any from AMD. AMD used to just re badge, because of their financial constrains, especially before Ryzen CPUs, that was limiting their ability to produce enough new models. Like R9 280X for example that was the HD 7970 GHZ edition under a different new name. That's the example you are trying to find.

Nvidia was thinking clever with the 3GB model. The average user would go and buy simply a "GTX 1060". Because if someone wanted a good enough Nvidia GPU, the 6GB GTX 1060 was a great option. So, they used the popularity of the 1060 to sell even cut down dies. I am pretty sure that many people bought the 3GB model only to hear from friends who had more knowledge of GPUs that they bought "the wrong 1060".

The folks who use their brains for something more than a seat cushion generally do.

Whatever makes you happy.

No, I become unpleasant when people take personal jabs and make condescending remarks, or try to peddle their special brand of bullshit to the masses. I ALWAYS post up strongly to that crap. I'm well known for it. You managed to hit the trifecta here.

Don't sugar coat it. You become rude in an arrogant way. The type of "There are two opinions, my opinion and the wrong opinion". Or maybe more like "My truth and BS that needs to be crushed". Anyway what you call crap or bs or nonsense, it's just a different opinion. I guess you don't like different opinions. Who would have thought, people having different opinions in a forum.

Now, we're discussing the imminent release of the RTX 5050, then you were attempting, and failing, to claim some sort of scam was going on. That's your failure, not mine, not the other reader or forum members, not NVidia's, not the AIB's, yours. Now, unless you can prove your assertion...

No, you where talking about the GTX 1060 3GB. Maybe you forgot what I quoted. So, please, at least before throwing lies, try to verify them.

 

[lexluthermiester]

So, please, at least before throwing lies

And you're done. Bye bye.

 

[T550p]

Is there any news about a potential 75W GeForce RTX 5050 6GB launch? It really sucks to have only 3 worthwhile options for slot powered GPUs, and those are just the RTX 2000 Ada, RTX 4000 Ada SFF, and the Radeon Pro W7500.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Is there any news about a potential 75W GeForce RTX 5050 6GB launch?

Keep an eye on the news. TPU will cover it when it happens.

 

[SOAREVERSOR]

Most PC gaming is either done on midrange GPUs or shit potato PCs that don't really register. This card firmly is good enough for that and thus what "the master race" actually is and uses and also gets you CUDA which alone is worth the ask.

One of the funny things is that when people say 1080p they don't realize people aren't running 1080p on those monitors. They are running lower than that. PC games is more of a 30fps at 720p mess than the Switch could ever hope to be. Something like this is actually a massive upgrade. When you see what PC gaming actually entails for most people you realize it's the worst looking most hilarious clusterfuck out there.

 

[Dr_b_]

"and an unknown number of ROPs......"

Even nvidia doesn't know the answer to that

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Maybe. Hopefully they do consumer models.


APU's can't upgrade a system that doesn't support them. We need single slot 75w versions of these cards.

The A2000E exists just for you. APUs have utterly decimated the sub 75w market, they dont make financial sense to produce or purchase.

Especially a single slot sub 75w version. That is a niche of a niche of a niche, and nobody is servicing that. Just not a big enough market. If they DID make one, it would be priced like a new A series quaddro card anyway.

 

[Kafka]

Those are differences in specs between models. This is common and is done by everyone and always has been. Where have you been, under a damn rock?

How about the GTX 260 VS the GTX 260, eh?


Or perhaps the GTX 560 VS GTX 560, hmm?


Or maybe the RTX 3060 Vs RTX 3060?


Are any of THOSE cards scams too? Hmm? And the correct answer is...

No, not a scam. It's called a difference in model specs and nothing more. By your daft logic, the 3060 8GB must be a scam because it's got a lower VRAM bus width and only 8GB of VRAM compared to it's 12GB sibling.


Neither is your version of supposed "facts". Do you think anyone is taking you seriously? Your special brand of drivel is not convincing anyone with any modicum sense.

And even with high end cards, given the 10GB 3080 vs 12GB 3080. Minimal as a 3% difference may be that is a whole other beast honestly. Even has a minor but different core configuration

I remember back in the day stores being flooded with the 3GB 1060, and some vendors trying to hide the 3GB part on the box very well, Gigabyte and MSI being chief among them, so perhaps he's thinking of that.

This is a 3GB SKU but unlike let's say EVGA there's no 3GB on the front, I am sure some people have been scammed this way. It honestly should've had another name.

Anyhow this 5050 card is getting a bit too much hate, it has some market appeal with its pricing.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The A2000E exists just for you.

No thanks. Not willing to pay that much. Those are $500 or more. For reference, I've paid $380ish for the PC needing the upgrade. I'm not going to drop that much and an addition $200 on a GPU for it. I'll pay $250ish for it though. That would be worth it.

APUs have utterly decimated the sub 75w market, they dont make financial sense to produce or purchase.

That's not helpful to someone who already owns a system with a low profile single slot dGPU and wants to upgrade it.

That is a niche of a niche of a niche, and nobody is servicing that.

Not in the business workstation space. That market sector is huge and NVidia already services it.

 

[sLowEnd]

The A2000E exists just for you. APUs have utterly decimated the sub 75w market, they dont make financial sense to produce or purchase.

Especially a single slot sub 75w version. That is a niche of a niche of a niche, and nobody is servicing that. Just not a big enough market. If they DID make one, it would be priced like a new A series quaddro card anyway.

APUs are nice, but they are nowhere near as transposable as a regular add-in card.

You can put a graphics card into almost any system that has a free PCI-E slot.
You can't put an APU in anything except a board designed for said APU and you'll have to like the CPU that the APU contains. (i.e. If say for instance Person A found a good deal on a strong CPU without an iGPU (Like a 14900KF, 5950X...etc.) and intends to use the system exlusively for CPU-heavy tasks. What good would an APU do them? They can't stick an APU in there if they want to use the CPU.)

 

[john_]

And you're done. Bye bye.

Too much for you, facing the truth? I guess you are right in this last one. Bye bye.

Anyhow this 5050 card is getting a bit too much hate, it has some market appeal with its pricing.

Let's wait first to see pricing. At $250 it will be expensive. At $200, at least it could be a Battlemage killer. And considering that AMD is using GDDR6 anyway, for it's RX9060XTs, a non XT 9060 could end up at the same price but much faster, if AMD doesn't rush to cut it too much.

 

[NSR]

Ah, the RTX 5050 8GB.

Just in case you needed a reminder that the 5060 Ti 8GB was pointless.

This type of card will really shine if it doesn't require external power. But priced too closely to the 5060/9060 unless it's genuinely not that much slower.

 

[Bomby569]

The problem won't be having another card and another option, but what i bet will be another absurd price for the card they are selling in 2025, especially compared with the past.

 

[Prima.Vera]

this is not a mid-range card, seriously....

 

[scooze]

3840 cuda and ddr7 for 300 dollars, and here 2560 cuda and ddr6 for 250? what? 5060 is one and a half times more powerful! 200 for this looks like a mess, what other 250?

I hoped that 5050 could use only slot power, cause I've got 1650 with 6 pin power connector, and it is pain in the a.. with such small card, I need to use bigger psu just for this connector. -.- (I've got some sff proprietary psus from dell and other sff pc, but they don't have 6 pin for pcie. -.- )

I dont understand you, as well as all those who insist on the presence of cards with consumption only from the PCI-E slot. What kind of power supplies do you have? I have a 430 power supply that is probably older than me, and it has one 6 pin. It's very good when a card consumes a little more, it means it is more performance. After all, there is such a thing.

Spoiler: 2 molex to 6pin

 

[Igb]

The performance difference between 1060 3GB and its bigger sibling was there, but so was the price difference. Yo get lost in specs that, in that particular moment, did not matter that much. The card became obsolete because of the lack of raw power about the same time that 3GB of VRAM started to feel a bit low.

That is not a scam in my book. With the same argument, 4070 Ti (remember: it was going to be called 4080 12GB before the totally justified backlash) is a scam. And while I don’t particularly like that card in price-to-performance, it has its place. And the 4070Ti super is one of the best value cards in that generation and price range.

For me, this 5050 is very uninteresting at 130W TGP. The RTX A2000 is the rival to beat here, in efficiency, for the HTPC/homelab users. Some folks do not undertand that some people (like me) do NOT want a mere 30% more performance at the cost of almost doubling the total power consumption of a card that will be powered 24/7

 

[Kwadratowicz]

dont understand you, as well as all those who insist on the presence of cards with consumption only from the PCI-E slot. What kind of power supplies do you have? I have a 430 power supply that is probably older than me, and it has one 6 pin. It's very good when a card consumes a little more, it means it is more performance. After all, there is such a thing.

It's about space, without power connector it is smaller.

 

[john_]

Trying to avoid one cable is probably important in mini ITX builds but then again it's very niche market segment. I doubt Nvidia will limit the model at 75W. Maybe they will come up with a second model or consider RTX 3050 6GB more than enough for the market. They don't have competition. AMD will prefer to sell APUs and Intel only offers A380. They didn't bother to make a B380.

 

[mechtech]

No, your statement is a scam. The 1060 3GB was an excellent budget card, full effing stop. Just stop with your nonsense.

Well perhaps geographic location mattered? Here I think the RX470 4GB was a bit cheaper and the RX480 8GB was about the same price...............but of course if varied depending on sales and other things. I know I went
with an RX480 8GB cause it was about same performance, same price, but had 8GB instead of 3GB, but that and the 6GB sold here in big numbers as well.

Curious on the 5050 though, got my RX660 for $235CAD ($172USD) a few years ago, be interesting how the 5050 compares at $342cad.

Still be nice if there was some cheap modern cards for people that don't game and don't have igpu

 

[Caring1]

There will likely be a Quadro slot powered version like the RTX A2000.

Doesn't make much sense to power limit these cards to 75 W when APUs exist. Better for 95% of gamers to plug in a single cable and get, what, 30-40% more performance

It's that mindset that allows them to continue making cards that consume far to much power.
We should be demanding lower power usage and great performance.

 

[tsunami2311]

I bet it wont even beat 1070ti out side of dlss and I betting it gona be $250 and not the 100~150 it should be. NVIDIA has lost touch with reality, all the see is money people threw at no mater product. sorta like what intel did for decades,