Always-on internet DRM: will you be boycotting Ubisoft?

[jpierce55]

The always on DRM will keep me from buying a game from Ubi-soft. I am not an online gamer, and don't feel that somebody needs access to my system when I can't pay attention to it. I think this could be an opening for hackers. I don't necessarily have a problem with games that require online registration, although I do know some people that absolutely will not buy a game that requires that either. Some people are fixed in their ways, and this DRM is a bad solution.

 

[xenocide]

There is a bit of a difference though. WoW requires an internet connection for gameplay. Ubisoft DRM requires an internet connection for gameplay that dosen't require it.

Not to mention the world of Azeroth keeps on moving when you're not online. It's an MMORPG, it is intended to be a centralized server that your character is on and you connect to that server to play as your character. Having to be online to play Assassins Creed makes no fucking sense, considering once you close the game, there is nothing changing about the game. Plus, if your internet randomly drops are you subject to having hours of work lost? In WoW if you drop everything is saved as is for the most part. Nothing is ever lost...

 

[Kreij]

Quibit asked me to vote, so I voted no.
I looked through the list of all games produced/published by Ubisoft and I have only three.
Riven:The sequel to Myst (1998), ESIII:Morrowind (2002) and FarCry (2004).
The reality is that I haven't bought hardly any Ubisoft games in the past, so it could hardly be called a boycott if I don't buy them now.

I don't like their DRM scheme and it would probably be a determining factor in purchasing a game from any publisher, but it's more requirement based (unstable internet) than ideaology.
It's their game, they can do what they want and I don't really care.

There are also games coming up from other publishers that I am really looking forward to playing.
If these games have less than stellar DRM I would probably still get them so it would be quite hypocritical for me to say I would boycott Ubisoft.
I'm not nuts about Ubisoft games so they will not be getting my money either way.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[xenocide]

Yea, I mostly wouldn't be a Ubisoft product because they tend to make mediocre games in my opinion. But I boycott the concept of always online DRM for exclusively Single-Player games.

 

[TheMailMan78]

You guys pretty much know my stance on piracy and stealing when it comes to software. I'm also a strong supporter of reasonable DRM.

With that being said I believe this "always on" DRM is in fact unreasonable and ever since they started with it I have not bought a Ubisoft game. Its just to much hassle to play a video game IMO.

 

[jpierce55]

You guys pretty much know my stance on piracy and stealing when it comes to software. I'm also a strong supporter of reasonable DRM.

With that being said I believe this "always on" DRM is in fact unreasonable and ever since they started with it I have not bought a Ubisoft game. Its just to much hassle to play a video game IMO.

I hate piracy as well. I somehow feel this always on DRM will increase piracy than reduce it. Somebody always finds away around, and people will certainly be working to get around this one.

 

[AsRock]

acheivements that give you more content..they are the only one that do THAT part of it. At least they give ya something for those acheivements.

But yeah, it is poorly done.

Poorly done for sure, Splinter Cell conviction while playing u play kept disconnecting although game ran fine still after no issue but achievements would would not keep the achievements and i am 99.9% sure it was their servers messing up and not my connection as my connection i have never known to disconnect me even in a thunderstorm as long as i had every thing on my ups's.

I don't really care for achievements tbh but i do care what this does to others who are not as lucky. My ISP ( Comcast ) as been totally sweet for me but i do have friends who are not on Comcast or are even on Comcast that have issue's staying online.

What is sad is i found that Splinter Cell Conviction to be the best unreal engine game since UT2k imo. Due to DRM i waited till it was $10 lol. And i do think buying it does give them reason to think i don't mind the DRM when i do so boycotting them is a way to get my word out that i do. Although they need boycotting for locking people out from making maps for that well made game too.

 

[entropy13]

I haven't had any of the new Ubisoft games because of this.

 

[Mussels]

There is a bit of a difference though. WoW requires an internet connection for gameplay. Ubisoft DRM requires an internet connection for gameplay that dosen't require it.

and WoW doesnt kick you and make you lose your progress, you resume where you were.

 

[remixedcat]

Boycotting becuase the DRM makes more security holes in your system. A hacker can easily gain control over your system. They infect one, they infect all.

 

[qubit]

Boycotting becuase the DRM makes more security holes in your system. A hacker can easily gain control over your system. They infect one, they infect all.

I'll bet it does and it would be interesting to know exactly what security holes, wouldn't it?

 

[Widjaja]

I don't like DRM if it is on a single player game like assassin's creed 2 for example.

I became sick of it and used a NoCD.
Planning on doing the same with another game since it's implementation of DRM checks the exe every so often causing hitching in game.

 

[Omnisome]

I won't be boycotting Ubisoft, why give a shit about whether you need internet to play or not?

 

[Ahhzz]

I've used NoCD's a number of times. If I've got the retail version of a game, I have absolutely NO problem circumventing whatever I can to allow me to play it easier on my machines (settlers 7 being one that comes right to mind... pain in my a$$). The only Ubisoft I've got that I still play is the Warlords: battlecry 2, and Morrowind. And come on. It's MORROWIND, people!!!! heheh

Eh, Ubi can bite me. I'm afraid I take the stance (and this will get my IP flagged hahaha), that Jury Nullification is a completely valid right. As such, I feel that any time something I've purchased attempts to prevent me from enjoying it however I see fit, it's my right to get around that prevention. Provided I am not giving away their product that they've worked on, I have no compunction about eliminating that product's ability to keep me from putting my cd's on archive, so I don't lose the original, or using a NoCD to keep enjoying a game while my Internet is down, or if I can't find my code wheel, or any other such crap.

I say down with DRM in general, and specifically, the type that comes with Ubisoft, and that will prevent me from buying one of the 5 games on my "Buy it Buy it BUY IT!!!" list this year : Diablo 3.

 

[Ahhzz]

I won't be boycotting Ubisoft, why give a shit about whether you need internet to play or not?

Congrats, you're one of the many (But not the "ALL"), that has an Internet connection that won't go down while you're playing your computer games. The ones that "give a shit" are those that might not have your godly connection.

 

[qubit]

I won't be boycotting Ubisoft, why give a shit about whether you need internet to play or not?

It's bloody obvious why as has been said over and over in this thread. Are you trolling?

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

There is a bit of a difference though. WoW requires an internet connection for gameplay. Ubisoft DRM requires an internet connection for gameplay that dosen't require it.

WoW requires an internet connection because its not SP game. Its multiplayer only and you are connecting to blizzard servers to play. Thus why you need an internet connection to play.

Theres a difference. Thats not really DRM.

 

[HammerON]

Quibit asked me to vote, so I voted no.
I looked through the list of all games produced/published by Ubisoft and I have only three.
Riven:The sequel to Myst (1998), ESIII:Morrowind (2002) and FarCry (2004).
The reality is that I haven't bought hardly any Ubisoft games in the past, so it could hardly be called a boycott if I don't buy them now.

I don't like their DRM scheme and it would probably be a determining factor in purchasing a game from any publisher, but it's more requirement based (unstable internet) than ideaology.
It's their game, they can do what they want and I don't really care.

There are also games coming up from other publishers that I am really looking forward to playing.
If these games have less than stellar DRM I would probably still get them so it would be quite hypocritical for me to say I would boycott Ubisoft.
I'm not nuts about Ubisoft games so they will not be getting my money either way.

Just my 2 cents.

I feel the same way. If I want the game, I will buy it even if it has "crappy" DRM. I am almost always on-line (need to be to be as a WCG cruncher) and have a good internet connection. If my internet does go down then I will just play my STEAM games
As far as Ubisoft, I too have not purchased many of their games recently (last couple years) and so I cannot say I would be boycotting them for not purchasing a game because of the DRM when I wouldn't have purchased it in the first place...

 

[twilyth]

I think the whole question of whether or not to boycott a company is interesting. Is it a situation where you're going to boycott them and you think everyone who doesn't is sub-human, or is it one where you're going to do it but it's cool if someone else doesn't.

Sure there's a big gray area in between but I think the vigorous disagreements come about because of the principles behind the action. So if you think that super-vigilant, nanny-type DRM is wholly unacceptable and probably evil, you're not going to understand how anyone could go along with it. OTOH, if you think it's just a pain in the ass but possibly worth the tradeoff if it's a really good game, you're going to see things in a completely different light.

 

[MilkyWay]

Always on DRM sucks because if a router is down or i have a bandwidth cap just one of many examples why i dont like it.

When people boycott a company its hard.
I dont buy Ubisoft games so im unaffected.

 

[qubit]

I think the whole question of whether or not to boycott a company is interesting. Is it a situation where you're going to boycott them and you think everyone who doesn't is sub-human, or is it one where you're going to do it but it's cool if someone else doesn't.

^^ Yeah, the bold bit. Boycotting a company that treats you like a criminal and inconveniences you to such a degree is a no-brainer. Anyone that doesn't is an idiot.

And no, I'm not trolling, I really do feel it's this black and white and thankfully according to my poll, a lot of people agree with me.

 

[DrPepper]

I've been boycotting activision for a while.

 

[qubit]

I've been boycotting activision for a while.

That's probably a good thing. And I'd be interested in the details of what you don't like about them, if you'd like to share.

 

[Kreij]

Diablo 3 is sopposed to come out with a constant internet connection requirement.
I will not buy this game. Not because I am boycotting the devs or publisher, but simply becuase I am not going to buy a game that I don't know if I will be able to play when I want to do so.
I will not pirate the game, nor look for cracks, I simply will pass it by for another game.

If all the AAA games go to constant internet required, I will save a bunch of money by only buying Indie games that do not require this.
If ALL games go to this I'll just go ride my ATV or something.
Gaming is entertainment, not a lifestyle. If it is no longer entertaining, then I have no use for it.
I really don't care.

 

[qubit]

Diablo 3 is sopposed to come out with a constant internet connection requirement.
I will not buy this game. Not because I am boycotting the devs or publisher, but simply becuase I am not going to buy a game that I don't know if I will be able to play when I want to do so.
I will not pirate the game, nor look for cracks, I simply will pass it by for another game.

If all the AAA games go to constant internet required, I will save a bunch of money by only buying Indie games that do not require this.
If ALL games go to this I'll just go ride my ATV or something.
Gaming is entertainment, not a lifestyle. If it is no longer entertaining, then I have no use for it.
I really don't care.

You say you're not, but really you are boycotting - and of course you know I approve. Now hurry up and change your vote! lol

The reasons you give for not buying any game with this DRM amounts to exactly the same as boycotting it. I won't buy it for the same reasons you won't, give or take a couple of details and I too, will give up playing games if they all require this. I can't see it happening, so I'm glad I won't have to be put to the test.