AMD FX OC'ers Club

[Irony]

Hey dinky, I've been overclocking and benching for like 2 days nonstop after I checked out hwbot when you linked to it. But I can't get my 8350 stable in any bench beyond 5ghz. It's kinda driving me insane. I'm wondering tho if it has something to do with memory issues. I'm gonna borrow some from a friend (they're actually my old ripjaws) because I have some Ripjaws x 1600 that I've done everything with they've seen disgusting amounts of voltage getting stable near 2000 lol. Timings werent even horrible for $30 ram; And I have some Kingston hyperx Predators 2666, but I can only run them at 2400 because I can't move my fsb without major instability, which is also weird cuz I used to be able to run it at 275 no problem. Idk if they're bad or what the deal is, because sometimes they seem great and other days I can't boot with them. I've run them with memtest86 several times, and sometimes they pass just fine and other times they throw like 10 errors in the first pass.

Point number B: I have an unsettling dilemma where the water in my loop is disappearing. It just started like a week ago, but over the course of a few days it'll drop like a 1/4 inch. I first noticed it cuz I was hearing bubbles getting sucked through, so I topped it off. Then like a day or 2 later, more bubbles. Thankfully no water is spewing out anywhere, that I can tell. I have the sides off and it seems good. Could it be evaporating from getting hot in all the benching? Water temp has gotten as high as 35 c when I forgot to turn my fans up lol

 

[d1nky]

wow you sound like you got some worrying issues there. glad people are benching, hopefully ive encouraged them enough!

first off, yea I would test an config you can for stability. im running the bios 1.95A and its a beast for benching (been up to 5.6ghz before crashing)

these ripjaws I got are OK, its tough to get tight timings as it wont boot or bsod straight away at any voltage, but I can loosen them off and get up to 2600mhz on them and 2850mhz on cpunb. mine has never been inconsistent in a stable memtest. maybe worth testing at all stock, then test again a couple times to see if it really is bad.
if it helps ill copy/paste my bench profile into PM so you can see what sort of voltages im using. because I think that's where the difference is.

also for the water problem. it may be air being released from somewhere else (radiator) and dropping levels in the res or it could be a slow leak but with temps and airflow drying quickly.
I use coloured pieces of paper for leak testing, fold it around any fittings or close to any fitting. the water will soak into the paper and stain it.


@Johan superpi 13.821 not too shabby get that mobo sorted, I hope it didn't die of shame lol

 

[Apocalypsee]

Currently trying on 4.8GHz 1.475V, it stable running games and Cinebench but it hardlock on x264 FHD benchmark and Prime95, any reason why it hardlock? If it get error it's understandable, but is hardlock means lack of power?

 

[RCoon]

Point number B: I have an unsettling dilemma where the water in my loop is disappearing. It just started like a week ago, but over the course of a few days it'll drop like a 1/4 inch. I first noticed it cuz I was hearing bubbles getting sucked through, so I topped it off. Then like a day or 2 later, more bubbles. Thankfully no water is spewing out anywhere, that I can tell. I have the sides off and it seems good. Could it be evaporating from getting hot in all the benching? Water temp has gotten as high as 35 c when I forgot to turn my fans up lol

You've had a big fat load of air pockets in your loop (probably radiator), and they are slowly bleeding out and being replaced by liquid. Not to worry, your loop is fixing itself, just keep topping it up. Water wont evaporate that fast after 35 degrees. It'd take a year at least for the levels to drop from mere evaporation on such a small scale.

 

[Johan45]

@johan superpi 13.821 not too shabby get that mobo sorted, I hope it didn't die of shame lol

Well you got me on that one D1nky 14.102 is my best so far I might have to revisit that though.

 

[Durvelle27]

Well you got me on that one D1nky 14.102 is my best so far I might have to revisit that though.

18 secs @4.8GHz is mines

 

[Irony]

Thanks guys. Ya dinky, thatd be awesome if you could pm me that. I've been meaning to ask you what kind of voltages and stuff youre running.

For the loop im gonna lay some paper and let it run a few hours just in case. I hope its just bubbles in the rad. I'll try tipping it on its side and stuff some more too.

As for superpi, I got 14.399 seconds at 5.2 i think, but that was with that bulldozer fix that the stilt guy made


Edit: I found the leak! It was leaking, from the intake barb on the reservoir. Clamp on it isnt tight. Glad I saw that tho. It was dripping really slowly on top of the disk drive lol.

 

[d1nky]

found the leak! It was leaking, from the intake barb on the reservoir. Clamp on it isnt tight. Glad I saw that tho. It was dripping really slowly on top of the disk drive lol

that's lucky as hell, I get paranoid about my barbs leaking as one is right near the psu cables (touching infact)


anyone want to help TPU hwbot team, I know many have other commitments etc but anything helps.

 

[Durvelle27]

that's lucky as hell, I get paranoid about my barbs leaking as one is right near the psu cables (touching infact)


anyone want to help TPU hwbot team, I know many have other commitments etc but anything helps.

I had the same leak but it was above the GPU

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

that's lucky as hell, I get paranoid about my barbs leaking as one is right near the psu cables (touching infact)


anyone want to help TPU hwbot team, I know many have other commitments etc but anything helps.

is there any easier way of putting in amd system specs besides manually typing because Hwbot seams highly intel focused to me(intel only hardware interogation soft etc) ,it took a lot of typeing for 1 submission

 

[d1nky]

is there any easier way of putting in amd system specs besides manually typing because Hwbot seams highly intel focused to me(intel only hardware interogation soft etc) ,it took a lot of typeing for 1 submission

once you've typed it once, you can pick the same hardware everytime. just remember to change or alter the clock speed tab.

after the first submission you'll see a 'Repopulate hardware field' and that has a list from previous submissions.

tbh I didn't go into too much detail when typing that out. and yea seems intel does have a step forward with the xtu file format.

thanks.

 

[Johan45]

Just a couple weeks D1NKY and I might give you a bit more competition in the Hwbot arena. Got some parts coming!!

 

[Super XP]

Currently trying on 4.8GHz 1.475V, it stable running games and Cinebench but it hardlock on x264 FHD benchmark and Prime95, any reason why it hardlock? If it get error it's understandable, but is hardlock means lack of power?

It seems to me x264 and Prime95 stresses the CPU out a lot more than just gaming and Cinebench. Obviously you have an instability problem. I would either slighly increase the CPU v-Core or down the clock a bit then test it again.

As for Hardlock vs. a error, not sure, though like I said, previously if you are super stressing your machine, it may very well do this.

 

[d1nky]

anyone here lapped their chip and heatsink?!

next time I drain my loop and put new fittings in ill be lapping. (ive scratched my block to bits)

ive heard of 5*c differences, but I believe little on the net!

 

[Durvelle27]

anyone here lapped their chip and heatsink?!

next time I drain my loop and put new fittings in ill be lapping. (ive scratched my block to bits)

ive heard of 5*c differences, but I believe little on the net!

I'll be lapping my block soon

 

[d1nky]

yea I need to find some flat solid glass and buy 800-2000 grit wet/dry and some kind of gun oil.

and well in the UK the last bit may be difficult lol

 

[Durvelle27]

yea I need to find some flat solid glass and buy 800-2000 grit wet/dry and some kind of gun oil.

and well in the UK the last bit may be difficult lol

I'll be using some marble and buying a kit from frozenCPU for $10. Comes with 600-2500 grit paper

 

[Johan45]

yea I need to find some flat solid glass and buy 800-2000 grit wet/dry and some kind of gun oil.

and well in the UK the last bit may be difficult lol

This is what I use for just about everything around the house. http://www.amazon.co_uk/dp/B0032NGWPE/?tag=tec053-21

 

[Roph]

I wouldn't dare get into lapping etc, but if you do, be sure to include pictures

 

[Durvelle27]

I wouldn't dare get into lapping etc, but if you do, be sure to include pictures

When OCing you need all the extra temp drops you can get

 

[Johan45]

I wouldn't dare get into lapping etc, but if you do, be sure to include pictures

It's really not that difficult or dangerous. Just very time consuming to do it properly.

 

[Apocalypsee]

It seems to me x264 and Prime95 stresses the CPU out a lot more than just gaming and Cinebench. Obviously you have an instability problem. I would either slighly increase the CPU v-Core or down the clock a bit then test it again.

As for Hardlock vs. a error, not sure, though like I said, previously if you are super stressing your machine, it may very well do this.

Thanks for the reply. I checked whether it is PSU issue but the voltage is above 12V (around ~12.2x V) so I think power is enough. I believe is the heat. Running games at that frequencies and that voltage reaches 70C, and that is not stressing all the cores Back to 4.4GHz stock Vcore to me until I get AIO watercool kit, perhaps CM Seidon 240M since H100i is expensive at my place

 

[n0tiert]

finally crosshair V-Z NB block is avalable in EU
and it´s on the way home.

No Distributor had the Nickel block in stock......

stay tuned


btw: d1nky 2nd crosshair is on it´s way to RMA, lets see what i get in return.... hehehe

 

[johnnyfiive]

It's really not that difficult or dangerous. Just very time consuming to do it properly.

Yep. I've done it a few times, nothing to be scared of.
Cheapest way to lap is to get a cheap frame, some gorilla tape, the highest percentage rubbing alcohol you can find (91%+ at the least) and three grit grades of sand paper. The alcohol is a safe way to have lubrication that will dry fast after you sand.

Here's my 920 D0 from back in the day.

After the first grade.

Before the last grade.

 

[Irony]

I think I fried my CPU/NB a little bit. Maybe my CPU a little too lol. I was trying for some decent OC and I got my NB stable up to 3000, with 1.42v which I was happy about. Then I tried to go above 5ghz on the CPU, since that seems to be my brick wall. I think I managed to boot at 5.3, wish I could go higher. I found out it wont boot windows above 1.75v haha...but ya, even with that much volts I couldn't get it stable. I actually can't even get 5.1 stable.

But now the problem is unless I keep the NB around 2200 its really unstable. And now I can't get 4.9 stable. I so sad...


So um, anyone wanna buy an 8350? haha; I think it might actually be okay at higher clocks/volts but I can't keep it cool. I added in a little 120mm rad to my loop, it helps some but my CPU gets to like 56 in just a couple seconds under any load at 5ghz. I wonder if my block isn't seated right or something. I'm gonna check the thermal paste I probably got over eager when I was applying it