AMD Releases PCI-Express Power Draw Fix, We Tested, Confirmed, Works

xvi · Jul 9, 2016

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Frick · Jul 9, 2016

xvi said:
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qubit · Jul 9, 2016

Nice to see this fixed properly. I was quite pessimistic that they'd botch it and am really happy it's now working properly. Bring on competition!

the54thvoid · Jul 9, 2016

qubit said:
Nice to see this fixed properly. I was quite pessimistic that they'd botch it and am really happy it's now working properly. Bring on competition!

It was never botched, more of an oversight from probably a specific section of the design team. My brother works on compute GPUS for industry and he has little to do with power delivery or cooling. I imagine the people concerned got a bit of a dressing down.

qubit · Jul 9, 2016

the54thvoid said:
It was never botched, more of an oversight from probably a specific section of the design team. My brother works on compute GPUS for industry and he has little to do with power delivery or cooling. I imagine the people concerned got a bit of a dressing down.

Yeah, I'll bet!

No, I said that the fix might be botched, but I'm glad it wasn't. The fault was certainly an oversight all right.

$ReaPeR$ · Jul 9, 2016

GhostRyder said:
Yea, I am giving it that it may unfortunately. I was actually hoping that it was like the R9 285/380 and they were just stocking up/waiting to release the full chip.

As for the dual card, it would be very foolish if they do that. Unless its priced super aggressively (like 1.5-1.75x the price of the RX 480) its not going to be worth it. Plus its still a dual card which carries lots of problems relating to scaling in proper games. I don't think they would do that personally because dual GPU's have been on the down slide alot lately in sales.

for this gen amd chose to compete only in the perf/$ segment, and from the results i dont think that was a bad choice, i find this segment to be the closest to "reality" since the majority of people are included in it. lets hope vega will compete with the x80/ti and titan variants because the lack of competition is not good for anyone.

xvi said:
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RejZoR · Jul 9, 2016

And they sell RX480 for rather realistic price. I just found RX480 for 269 € on some German store.

$229 = 207€ + 20% VAT = 248€

The price is a bit inflated since the stocks are small, but 20€ premium is not that huge if you want it now.
And they do have them in stock.

EdInk · Jul 9, 2016

The 6-pin used in the RX480 has the power throughput of an 8pin connector already

$ReaPeR$ · Jul 9, 2016

RejZoR said:
And they sell RX480 for rather realistic price. I just found RX480 for 269 € on some German store.

$229 = 207€ + 20% VAT = 248€

The price is a bit inflated since the stocks are small, but 20€ premium is not that huge if you want it now.
And they do have them in stock.

wow!!! thats a good deal!
the euro/dollar pricing its so horrible, i understand the tax thing but why the hell they go with the 199 dollars=199 euro?! that irritates me so much.

ensabrenoir · Jul 9, 2016

.............Problem solved......Amd did good.....how much longer are we gonna let this thing cook ?.

sutyi · Jul 9, 2016

RejZoR said:
And they sell RX480 for rather realistic price. I just found RX480 for 269 € on some German store.

$229 = 207€ + 20% VAT = 248€

The price is a bit inflated since the stocks are small, but 20€ premium is not that huge if you want it now.
And they do have them in stock.

Germany:
RX 480 8GB - 239USD = ~217EUR + 20% VAT = ~260EUR

So I would say pretty decent sales margin.

Meanwhile in Hungary:
RX 480 8GB - 239USD = ~217EUR + 27% VAT = ~~~275EUR~~ ~319EUR

It is kinda funny and sad at the same time that I could order a Sapphire RX 480 NITRO+ with shipping from OCUK for about the same amount at ~324EUR.

Ahhh...God bless Hungaristan...

RejZoR · Jul 9, 2016

Also, meanwhile in Slovenia (Slovenistan if you will

), 329€ for reference ASUS RX480...

TRWOV · Jul 9, 2016

Amazon has free shipping in orders over $150 to Mexico... hello RX 480 at 2/3 of the local price

... heck, is actually cheaper than buying it on amazon.com.mx :/

Nobody99 · Jul 9, 2016

RejZoR said:
And they sell RX480 for rather realistic price. I just found RX480 for 269 € on some German store.

$229 = 207€ + 20% VAT = 248€

The price is a bit inflated since the stocks are small, but 20€ premium is not that huge if you want it now.
And they do have them in stock.

Better wait for RX470 which will have even better performance per €/$ and will be without this behaviour which doesn't adhere to specifications.

In Europe it is better to order from Germany because shipping fees aren't that high (https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/infocenter/section/shipping) and one important thing they offer when buying products is that the sites are actually optimized for buying and have good filtering and if that isn't enough you can use sites like Geizhals which have even better filtering.

sutyi · Jul 9, 2016

RejZoR said:
Also, meanwhile in Slovenia (Slovenistan if you will ), 329€ for reference ASUS RX480...

Order from Mindfactory, they are shipping to Slovenia iirc.

TheLaughingMan · Jul 9, 2016

Does this improve power consumption any other time such as idle, Blu-ray playback, etc.

Agiels · Jul 9, 2016

well seems like 2x Rx480 cant surpass a sigle 1080, its near, but not what AMD stated, hope in future games it will do, just hoping, since im in the red side of the force

TRWOV · Jul 9, 2016

TheLaughingMan said:
Does this improve power consumption any other time such as idle, Blu-ray playback, etc.

No

Agiels said:
well seems like 2x Rx480 cant surpass a sigle 1080, its near, but not what AMD stated, hope in future games it will do, just hoping, since im in the red side of the force

That claim applied for AoS and only in DX12 mode...so yeah. RX 480 crossfire isn't worth it at the moment really.

I plan to buy 2 480s and 1 470 to upgrade all my rigs... maybe 1 460 as a backup card too. I haven't upgraded since the HD7000 series... well there wasn't a lot of options for a real upgrade anyways (gaming on 7970 and 7950).

Agiels · Jul 9, 2016

TRWOV said:
No

That claim applied for AoS and only in DX12 mode...so yeah. RX 480 crossfire isn't worth it at the moment really.

I plan to buy 2 480s and 1 470 to upgrade all my rigs... maybe 1 460 as a backup card too. I haven't upgraded since the HD7000 series... well there wasn't a lot of options for a real upgrade anyways (gaming on 7970 and 7950).

im still in the r9's ... i have a Sapphire r9 280 3GB Dual-x, just a quick question, im having 0 instability problems in my rig with this card, but games still crashes, what can be this ??

TRWOV · Jul 9, 2016

dunno, drivers? Haven't experienced a crash lately... I think my last crash was on Crysis 2 in an overclocking session....- Is your card overclocked?

RejZoR · Jul 9, 2016

sutyi said:
Order from Mindfactory, they are shipping to Slovenia iirc.

I don't need one, I'm good with GTX 980. I used to order from Hardwareversand, but they are no more. Usually ComputerUniverse. Usually because they support wire transfer. Geizhals is usually a place where I check the prices and then pick out those that have wire transfer/prepayment option. Bought basically entire current system this way, no need to deal with credit card limits and stuff.

Agiels · Jul 9, 2016

TRWOV said:
dunno, drivers? Haven't experienced a crash lately... I think my last crash was on Crysis 2 in an overclocking session....- Is your card overclocked?

its factory OC 940/1250 havent touched since i have it, not worth it, it doesnt crash on any stress test, Firestrike, Unigine all of them, Asus Realbench, 3Dmark 11, CINEBENCH_R15, FurMark, with Win7 and driver 14.12 crash less but ofc run badly due to non optimized for new games, maybe my PSU its getting tired ? a CX600M i heard they are good but not got for stressing

INSTG8R · Jul 9, 2016

Agiels said:
its factory OC 940/1250 havent touched since i have it, not worth it, it doesnt crash on any stress test, Firestrike, Unigine all of them, Asus Realbench, 3Dmark 11, CINEBENCH_R15, FurMark, with WinXP and driver 14.12 crash less but ofc run badly due to non optimized for new games, maybe my PSU its getting tired ? a CX600M i heard they are good but not got for stressing

Maybe you should make a thread for help and not use the news.

Agiels · Jul 10, 2016

INSTG8R said:
Maybe you should make a thread for help and not use the news.

that is why i said "quick question"

Tsukiyomi91 · Jul 10, 2016

good guy AMD.

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AMD Releases PCI-Express Power Draw Fix, We Tested, Confirmed, Works

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