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AMD Ryzen 2000 Series Processors Based on Refined 14 nm Process

They just need to have 300-400MHz higher clocks on same or less power comsumption imho. And stay on same price also. A good refresh that would be.
 
I can see and hope that Zen 2 (8Core CPU) base clock 4GHz all 8 cores with a Turbo to 4.3GHz, same or little less power draw and better temps, IPC increase of 10%. Thats my guess for Zen2 and will be most likely my next major upgrade :)
 
HD64G said:
They just need to have 300-400MHz higher clocks on same or less power comsumption imho. And stay on same price also. A good refresh that would be.
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I think that's what AMD is aiming for.
 
But Intel crawling 200MHz by 200MHz is totes fine...
 
RejZoR said:
But Intel crawling 200MHz by 200MHz is totes fine...
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I would say the number of people complaining about it would hint that it is not.
 
Zen+ will have better IPC, not the Zen gen1 refresh. Only better clocks and/or power consumption for it. And maybe lower prices.
 
AMD seems to be back on track, so happy to see progress out of them.
 
cdawall said:
They will get insulted for it as a rebrand if they do.
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They won't because they won't be introducing these as a new processor series, a requirement for a rebranding. They will simply introduce them as new models in the current Zen Linup. For example, AMD's new 4.0 base 4.5 Boost processor can be called the R7 1800XT. Heck, that even sounds cool.
 
evernessince said:
They won't because they won't be introducing these as a new processor series, a requirement for a rebranding. They will simply introduce them as new models in the current Zen Linup. For example, AMD's new 4.0 base 4.5 Boost processor can be called the R7 1800XT. Heck, that even sounds cool.
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Sure it wont be relabled as the 2800?
 
RejZoR said:
Cool. If AMD can pull 4.0 GHz base clock and up to 4.2 GHz Boost from "upcoming" R7 2800X, that would be massive thing by itself. If they can get any higher, even more so. I really hope AMD's future ZEN CPU's are going to evolve nicely, because we can then look at very interesting and competitive market not entirely dominated anymore by Intel only.

Also, if AMD can manage to refine those 4c/8t CPU's far enough to pull 4.5 GHz from them, they could seriously threaten existence of 7700K...
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Id be thrilled if OC on water and air could get better then 100-200mhz.
 
cdawall said:
I would say the number of people complaining about it would hint that it is not.
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Yeah id say the amount of people who started complaining about the incremental upgrades after Sandy/Ivy Bridge would lend to the fact it is not fine. I for one don't care because I do not upgrade CPUs or platforms nearly as often as other parts like GPU. Thankfully I think Ryzen has lit a fire under Intel's ass, because until now, Intel has been competing with themselves.
 
Vayra86 said:
Please, give me that glorious 4.4-4.5 Ghz and I'll be ALL OVER THAT
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Honestly I just want Intel or AMD to make a truly gaming-built CPU:

-6-8 cores (With or without HT)

-5.2GHz+ on the first core, 4.8GHz+ on all of the other cores. (Clocking the first core faster would help with the unavoidable overhead all API's have)

-A massive low-latency cache of EDRAM like Broadwell to reduce frametimes


^If this could post across the board 15-20% performance over everything else and last a long time, I would pay $399+ for it.

Until then it doesn't matter. 1800X, 1600X, 6700K, 6900K, and on and on. They all game quite fine, but people need to stop acting like a 10% win at a certain resolution matters. Price is the determining factor unless you are a fool lol.
 
Captain_Tom said:
Honestly I just want Intel or AMD to make a truly gaming-built CPU:

-6-8 cores (With or without HT)

-5.2GHz+ on the first core, 4.8GHz+ on all of the other cores. (Clocking the first core faster would help with the unavoidable overhead all API's have)

-A massive low-latency cache of EDRAM like Broadwell to reduce frametimes


^If this could post across the board 15-20% performance over everything else and last a long time, I would pay $399+ for it.

Until then it doesn't matter. 1800X, 1600X, 6700K, 6900K, and on and on. They all game quite fine, but people need to stop acting like a 10% win at a certain resolution matters. Price is the determining factor unless you are a fool lol.
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Dreamer
 
It would be nice if it was possible to not have IF run 1/2 speed. If it could run 1/1 with the RAM speed that should give it a nice performance lift. And you wouldn't need to buy super high end RAM either.
 
Captain_Tom said:
Honestly I just want Intel or AMD to make a truly gaming-built CPU:

-6-8 cores (With or without HT)

-5.2GHz+ on the first core, 4.8GHz+ on all of the other cores. (Clocking the first core faster would help with the unavoidable overhead all API's have)

-A massive low-latency cache of EDRAM like Broadwell to reduce frametimes


^If this could post across the board 15-20% performance over everything else and last a long time, I would pay $399+ for it.

Until then it doesn't matter. 1800X, 1600X, 6700K, 6900K, and on and on. They all game quite fine, but people need to stop acting like a 10% win at a certain resolution matters. Price is the determining factor unless you are a fool lol.
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Intel is nowhere near getting 5.2 GHz on it's 6/8 core parts. The silicon simply isn't there for what you are asking. A huge cache would help but Intel won't do this on their gaming parts. If they are selling 6/8 core gaming parts with massive cache that will eat their lower end xeons live, no reason to buy them anymore. The only way I can see Intel doing this is if they release a gaming processor at a VERY high price so as to not cannibalize their more expensive server CPUs. I'm talking $1,000 plus for a 4.8 GHz 8 core intel CPU with a large cache. This wouldn't include a CPU cooler either as these CPUs will require a beast.

The best way Intel can continue to improve gaming performance is to improve their branch prediction to minimize cache misses, even with lower end CPUs with little cache.
 
evernessince said:
Intel is nowhere near getting 5.2 GHz on it's 6/8 core parts. The silicon simply isn't there for what you are asking. A huge cache would help but Intel won't do this on their gaming parts. If they are selling 6/8 core gaming parts with massive cache that will eat their lower end xeons live, no reason to buy them anymore. The only way I can see Intel doing this is if they release a gaming processor at a VERY high price so as to not cannibalize their more expensive server CPUs. I'm talking $1,000 plus for a 4.8 GHz 8 core intel CPU with a large cache. This wouldn't include a CPU cooler either as these CPUs will require a beast.

The best way Intel can continue to improve gaming performance is to improve their branch prediction to minimize cache misses, even with lower end CPUs with little cache.
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Not saying they will; just saying they could, and that there would be a decent niche of buyers if they made it.

Even at $499, this hypothetical CPU would sell quite well imo. Oh, and please don't tell me they "Can't". 5.2GHz is far from unheard from on 7700K's, and please keep in mind that I said on the first core. The rest could be clocked 10% slower with no performance penalty.
 
Captain_Tom said:
Hey tell me I am wrong buddy?

Tell me you don't want a CPU like that, and then honestly tell me it's impossible. Intel could totally make that if they wanted too.

Until then, 1800X, 7700K, 1600X, and 6900K are all basically the same...
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Dude its meant to be funny lol

Of course we ALL would love to have a CPU like that, who wouldnt? but its not going to happen anytime soon, at a guess it would take many many more yrs to get anything close to that out of the box and that is a big IF, current Arch just cant do it from both sides.

Could intel do it right now if they wanted to? I honestly dont think they can. Yes they have tons of R&D money but again I cant see them getting anything close to that for a good 10yrs, its takes alot of work and time and money to design a new chip and that clock speed your asking is bloody high!
 
The name can be R7 2700x or r7 1750x ? (adding +50 to number, like first Phenom)
 
I'm doing just fine with a Ryzen 7 1800x, in fact it's the most incredible CPU I've ever owned. Previously I would always purchase the middle of the road Intel CPU's like the 4770K, which costs the same as the Ryzen 7 1800x here in Switzerland, yeah, we get screwed in pricing.

Though people keep saying that it's not the fastest for gaming, there isn't a single title that I own that doesn't get at least 100 FPS. My graphic cards are two Vega Frontier Edition, the fist one I paid full price for, the second I got through eBay for only 280 CHF, yep, that's all, the housing was scratched up, hence the cheaper price but since I'm using a water cooling solution the housing didn't matter to me. By the way I'm using EKWB's blocks and black-plates. I'm also using EKWB for the CPU as they have a fantastic kit that contains almost everything you need. I say almost as I went with a hard-line solution as it just looked better with my In-Win X-Frame Case that I also got on eBay. After adding in 128GB of 2666 DDR4 RAM, 2x Samsung M.2 512GB 960 drives (I run 2 OS's, Windows 10 and CentOS with VMWare Workstation (that runs, Lakka (a game emulation OS that plays damn near everything (we have around 2,000 games for it) I also have 4 replica game controllers for each emulator installed, i.e. PlayStation 1,2,3, N64, DreamCast, GameCube, Sega, SNES, NES, NeoGEO, arcade games, etc.), Android, Kodi, Windows 10, OSX, Steam, etc.)

The beauty of this is that I can run multiple systems at once, so while I'm working in the office, the kids can be watching movies on Netflix/HBO/ShowTime/Hulu/PopcornTime, Zatto (which is a local app for watching TV in Switzerland, 4K) Kodi (with around 30 apps/sources that contain thousands of videos), playing games, whatever on the TV, there is also no lag in this, in fact it's damn near perfect. I obviously also use my PC also as our entertainment system for the TV. My office is the room next to the living room so I just drilled hole in the wall and connected the TV to the PC, as well as the VR setup. I control the whole thing with a Logitech remote and ROCCAT Sova, well that is when I'm in the living room.

So when all was done and built, the total price came out to be 2,400 CHF. What I got for that is the most powerful computer I have ever owned and was worth every penny. The point of all this was, I have yet to begun to tax this system and can't imagine anything that will. I mean I can play GTA V on the TV while I'm encoding a video, compiling an application, downloading multiple files, etc. without a single hint of lag, I think I'll be fine for the next 3 years, at least. Ryzen is the CPU you want if your goal is to run multiple tasks at once, definitely get as much ram as you can afford, I recommend at last 64. You know, I would get the Ryzen CPU for any task as it's just so amazing, unstoppable.
 
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I won't trust that till the patts are out
 
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