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i dont care if the ipad is better or not than a notebook. the ipad is found to be more useful for some people as it is smaller than a netbook and it is cool new technology. clearly you do not understand this. this entire thread is about people who are brainwashed into buying apple products. i am saying it is YOU who are brainwashed by the apple hating e-nerds. if you take that as an insult than i must have touched a nerve.

your idea that somehow apple's success will lead to the downfall of computers as we know it short sighted and obtuse. in the past 20 years microsoft has exploded around the globe despite the presence and resurgence of closed apple products. what's more the open source movement has made amazing traction over the past 15 years thanks to linux. so your entire argument is incredibly off base and wreaks of tin-foil hat conspiracies in 4chan.
Well, I must say that I agree with the bit in bold, if nothing else. :) It's certainly given Microsoft a headache and helped keep them in check.

furthermore, you didnt have to bring my mod status into this whole debate. it is clear now that you would like nothing more than for me to infract you so that it would bolster your pathetically small minded argument. now please, move along.
No, I don't want you to infract me. But I do feel the way you're talking to me is a bit off and I figured you might be itching to do it. I'm glad to be wrong. :toast:

Look, you see it your way and I see it mine and I'm quite happy to differ. I still haven't really had a proper answer to my question, but what the hell, it's not that important in the end; we're only having a chat, lol.

Perhaps if you look over our discussion, you'll see that I was being quite genuine with you, asking a straight question and wanted to see how you saw it as better, with solid examples of why this should be so.

Finally, I've thanked you, as a gesture of goodwill; I certainly don't like a fight with anyone, mods or not. It's water under the bridge for me now.
 

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Well, I must say that I agree with the bit in bold, if nothing else. :) It's certainly given Microsoft a headache and helped keep them in check.



No, I don't want you to infract me. But I do feel the way you're talking to me is a bit off and I figured you might be itching to do it. I'm glad to be wrong. :toast:

Look, you see it your way and I see it mine and I'm quite happy to differ. I still haven't really had a proper answer to my question, but what the hell, it's not that important in the end; we're only having a chat, lol.

Perhaps if you look over our discussion, you'll see that I was being quite genuine with you, asking a straight question and wanted to see how you saw it as better, with solid examples of why this should be so.

Finally, I've thanked you, as a gesture of goodwill; I certainly don't like a fight with anyone, mods or not. It's water under the bridge for me now.
ok, fine. i dont care if people dont like apple products. everyone has their opinion. but what i dont like is when people act like the only reason people buy apple products is because they are brainwashed. that is so far off base that these days that argument is considered trolling. furthermore, gadgets that YOU find useful today exist because of the work of companies like apple that push the limits of technology. they are creative geniuses which means their work may not always be the most useful. that does not discredit the work they are doing however and only small minded individuals would honestly fail to see it.
 

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LOL, if you guys don't own a macbook, why complain about it? It's like me complaining about BMW expensive repair bills when I drive a Infiniti G.
 
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Would you criticize a 10$ 700W PSU? why would you? you don't own one AFAIK

Sure there are some who are blindly bashing apple, but there are the ones who actually have apple products all around them, and in their house, and with best friends and family.

I don't think anybody is COMPLETELY discrediting apple. Ipad was an awesome idea, and without it, I doubt companies would be trying to do tablets. Iphone has some damn nice stuff about it, the sleek design of apple has caused envy, and alot of companies have refined the look of their laptops etc to make them look better. All this doesn't change the fact the Ipad could have been better. By how much? that's debatable. Doesn't change the fact that there are alot of apple fanboys who buy apple products when another product at a lot less $ would have suited his needs better.
 

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It's YOU who can't come up with one or two simple examples of how the iPad is better than a laptop/netbook, after I have posed this reasonable question several times now. I think you'll agree that it's the sort of question that any company would pose to justify their business case, should they contemplate buying them. Therefore, it's quite an important and standard question, no?

It's obvious you don't have the answer, or you wouldn't start accusing me. Come on Easy, I know you're better than this.

Saying that laptops are more cumbersome* and claiming that iPads are "cooler" - oh god :shadedshu - as reasons to buy isn't a compelling argument in their favour. The Cult of Apple and their Reality Distortion Field, indeed.

*Netbooks are arguably less cumbersome than the hallowed iPad, because they're real small and can be set down on a table and used with both hands, or used with one hand while holding with the other. With the iPad, one hand is always tied up (and getting fatigued) from holding it - remember extra keyboards and stands not allowed, we're talking about the basic functionality of the device.
No, but I already did, and so did a few others.

Yes, you can use keyboards and stands on ipad. Just goes to show you are spouting off about something you don't really know anything about. Seriously, your position every bit as bad as blindly devoted Apple fanboy.
 
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guys dont mess with Wile E about apple. this thread will explode
 
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No, but I already did.

Yes, you can use keyboards and stands on ipad. Just goes to show you are teh typical anti-mac guy spouting off about something he knows nothing about. Seriously, you are every bit as bad as blindly devoted Apple fanboy.
I think it all comes down to how you weight the advantages an disadvantages in the end. Some people weigh the advantages more heavily than the latter, and some the other way round.

Apple products certainly fit a niche and i'm glad they do well as they introduce extra competition into the market.

I personally dislike Macs because i know i can do the same and more with a PC.
I like the I-phone, but i'd never buy one (or any smart phone) as i use a phone to..well...phone, nothing more. I also would not find an I-Pad usefull as i have a laptop and if i wanted a reader, i would buy a reader.

I'm sure you can see that there is a lot of hype surrounding apple as they have done so well recently (their share-price depends on speculation on SJ's health, lol) and that sort of thing has momentum. With the PC market there is a lot less hype as we have many different manufactures doing the same thing..... Well apple do the same thing, just in a unique way, which makes them stand out.

TLDR; Apple products are suitable for some people but are over-hyped imo (leading to some people to believe they need an apple product, when another product would be just as suitable)
 
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No, but I already did, and so did a few others.

Yes, you can use keyboards and stands on ipad. Just goes to show you are spouting off about something you don't really know anything about. Seriously, your position every bit as bad as blindly devoted Apple fanboy.
Re the bold bit: yes I know. I was saying to use the iPad in its native out of the box configuration when comparing and I was quite clear about that.

And I was asking Easy, not anyone else for an answer. I wanted his opinion.

I'm not spouting or blindly devoted about anything. Thanks.
 
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Both Wile E and Easy know that I have some pretty good anti-Apple arguments and I could keep this thread going for a VERY long time. HOWEVER WHY? I mean this Apple bashing has been going on for over 30 years! Most of the hate came out of the clone days. Its enough already. If you don't like Apple (which I now hate) don't buy it. Thats what I do.

If you do like them great! Just don't act like you are above the curve like most Apple noobs think. (TPU community excluded from noob comment).

Ether way STFU!
 

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Both Wile E and Easy know that I have some pretty good anti-Apple arguments and I could keep this thread going for a VERY long time. HOWEVER WHY? I mean this Apple bashing has been going on for over 30 years! Most of the hate came out of the clone days. Its enough already. If you don't like Apple (which I now hate) don't buy it. Thats what I do.

If you do like them great! Just don't act like you are above the curve like most Apple noobs think. (TPU community excluded from noob comment).

Ether way STFU!
I'd be very interested in your anti Apple arguments. If you'd like to tell me about them in PM, I'd be delighted to hear them! :)
 
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http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/macheads/

It's really not worth watching IMO. It's exactly what you'd expect; a bunch of people who exhibit the same level of zeal as any religious fanatic. One woman even says that she has never knowingly slept with a Windows user :roll:.

The people in the documentary are annoying as hell and I only made it through it because I was writing code and drinking beer the whole time. Several of my friend's have macs, and none of them think highly of herr Jobs (or act like a goofy condescending dick). Anyone who is older than five knows Steve Wozniak is the real god :D.
I only got through the first two-and-a-half minutes, and that costed me more effort than installing Gentoo (as a manner of speaking).
 
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Nothing brings out the misinformed, hive mind ignorance of this community more than an Apple thread. What is this [H]? I have stayed out for the most part since the beginning as I have enough infractions already,

Thanks Wile E and Mailman and Bonkers and the precious few other points of light and educated intelligence in this otherwise low-browed wasteland of a thread.
 
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Nothing brings out the misinformed, hive mind ignorance of this community more than an Apple thread. What is this [H]? I have stayed out for the most part since the beginning as I have enough infractions already,

Thanks Wile E and Mailman and Bonkers and the precious few other points of light and educated intelligence in this otherwise low-browed wasteland of a thread.
Yes, quite. Good thing then that I'm one of those precious few other points of light and educated intelligence who know what I'm talking about and bring the voice of reason to such a thread. ;)
 
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what the fuck does iPad have to do with the topic again?

If anyone still cares, ifixit reports:

mid-2009 macbook pros use this special screw to fasten the batteries, note that batteries are internal and are only accessible after taking off the the entire back.(mid-2010 macbook pros use tri-wing instead of this five-point screw)

some iphone 4 and maybe newer iphone 4 use this screw to secure the back panel. removing the back panel exposes batteries, circuit boards and whatnot.

the new macbook airs use this type of screws to fasten the entire back panel. RAM is soldered on MBA, SSD is replaceable but is in a special form factor, batteries are also replaceable but it seems no one is offering parts ATM.

you can buy the special screw drivers from ifixit.

you can use or modify a slot head screw driver in emergency, but it's likely to ruin the screw head.