Does my cpu support this ram?

[Vya Domus]

I understand but again!!!! I searched it up IT SAID my cpu only max supported 2666View attachment 170162i think i could overclock to reach higher but base speed is a max of 2666

Dude, you don't seem to understand. All CPUs that you will find will say they support only 2666mhz or 2933 or any other JEDEC spec, all of them. This includes the highest end CPUs from bot AMD and Intel.

They will however reach frequencies much higher in reality, why do you think you see so many kits with clocks over 2666mhz ?

This has been explained thoroughly to you, if you don't care why did you even started this thread ?

 

[bigbcool]

On Intel maybe. There is something called the infinity fabric on Ryzen CPUs and that directly interfaces with your RAM. I guarantee that a Ryzen CPU running 3200 16 timings will feel much snappier than 2666 18.

possibly I am aware that Ryzen is much more dependent on ram then intel

Dude, you don't seem to understand. All CPUs that you will find will say they support only 2666mhz, all of them. This includes the highest end CPUs from bot AMD and Intel.

They will however reach frequencies much higher in reality, why do you think you see so many kits with clocks over 2666mhz ?

This has been explained thoroughly to you, if you don't care why did you even started this thread ?

literally nobody said every cpu says they only support 2666 before this

 

[xman2007]

It tells you the board supports upto 3733 the maximum guaranteed speed of ram for your cpu is 2666 anything higher amd can't guarantee however as others have said it will run fine with 3000/3200 ram which is the performance sweet spot for ryzen 1st gen. Though if you're really not comfortable going into the bios and setting xmp on for those speeds just get the 2666 ones you linked. I've got team ram myself and have no issues with them, in fact this is the 2nd set I've had in a ryzen build because they just work and don't cost an arm and a leg.

 

[kapone32]

possibly I am aware that Ryzen is much more dependent on ram then intel

I'm am not talking about things I have read or watched but my own experience, it is not a possibility it is a reality. That is what the dependance is; the faster the RAM the more responsive the system on Ryzen up to 3733 MHZ because of the Infinity Fabric (look it up).

 

[Vya Domus]

literally nobody said every cpu says they only support 2666 before this

Because they don't in reality, that's what you seem not to understand.

If you want that 2666 kit, go ahead, no body is stopping you. That CPU and board will however work with higher frequencies.

 

[bigbcool]

It tells you the board supports upto 3733 the maximum guaranteed speed of ram for your cpu is 2666 anything higher amd can't guarantee however as others have said it will run fine with 3000/3200 ram which is the performance sweet spot for ryzen 1st gen. Though if you're really not comfortable going into the bios and setting xmp on for those speeds just get the 2666 ones you linked. I've got team ram myself and have no issues with them, in fact this is the 2nd set I've had in a ryzen build because they just work and don't cost an arm and a leg.

i think i will get 3200 because nobody botherd telling me that all cpus say they only max support 2666 but i am fine with turning xmp on i have before

Because they don't in reality, that's what you seem not to understand.

If you want that 2666 kit, go ahead, no body is stopping you. That CPU and board will however work with higher frequencies.

i think i will get 3200 because nobody botherd telling me that all cpus say they only max support 2666 but i am fine with turning xmp on i have before

 

[xman2007]

I would if there's no difference in price

 

[JrRacinFan]

@bigbcool
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7...WB&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it_im&tag=tec06d-20&th=1

That will link you to the faster kit of the eact same model. Cheers. Oh and i havent read the full thread but will say this. Even enabling DOCP/XMP is considered overclocking. the current common standard is 2133mhz ddr4 .

EDIT:
Also dont hesitate to purchase the kit I have the exact same kit and they worked beautifully until I wanted more ram. Guess where they are at right now? Paired with a ryzen 5 1400 in my moms PC.

 

[bigbcool]

@bigbcool
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T637L7...WB&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it_im&tag=tec06d-20&th=1

That will link you to the faster kit of the eact same model. Cheers. Oh and i havent read the full thread but will say this. Even enabling DOCP/XMP is considered overclocking. the current common standard is 2133mhz ddr4 .

EDIT:
Also dont hesitate to purchase the kit I have the exact same kit and they worked beautifully until I wanted more ram. Guess where they are at right now? Paired with a ryzen 5 1400 in my moms PC.

k thx for letting me know!!

 

[JrRacinFan]

k thx for letting me know!!

You're welcome also i havent tried pushing the sticks past what they are specc'd for. You might be able to push them up to 3400-3600 CL18.

 

[newtekie1]

Your cpu & board will run DDR4-3200 without issue, it simply involves selecting 3200 in the bios and setting the timings and voltage accordingly. All of which X.M.P. will do for you.

WTF? It's usually a struggle to get 1st gen Ryzen. Good luck putting a 3200MHz kit in a 1st gen Ryzen computer and expecting XMP to just work. Hell, it rarely works on Zen+ CPUs.

 

[xman2007]

WTF? It's usually a struggle to get 1st gen Ryzen. Good luck putting a 3200MHz kit in a 1st gen Ryzen computer and expecting XMP to just work. Hell, it rarely works on Zen+ CPUs.

Well yea, I guess if you're using the release day bios version of 1st Ryzen , theyv'e had hardly any issues running lots of kits at 3000/3200 since the first few agesa updates in 2017 apart from the corsair kits which are notorious for being picky on Ryzen and a few other IC's, but all in all most decent boards with Ryzen 1st gen CPU will easily run 3000mhz though dont expect to hit 3400 or above though that's a different beast. But 3000/3200mhz? yea pretty much all day long. Asrock AB350 Pro 4 had very good bios updates as well and was pretty solid with running 3000mhz+ kist from my own personal experience with it and having ran several different kits on it.

 

[kapone32]

Well yea, I guess if you're using the release day bios version of 1st Ryzen , theyv'e had hardly any issues running lots of kits at 3000/3200 since the first few agesa updates in 2017 apart from the corsair kits which are notorious for being picky on Ryzen and a few other IC's, but all in all most decent boards with Ryzen 1st gen CPU will easily run 3000mhz though dont expect to hit 3400 or above though that's a different beast. But 3000/3200mhz? yea pretty much all day long. Asrock AB350 Pro 4 had very good bios updates as well and was pretty solid with running 3000mhz+ kist from my own personal experience with it and having ran several different kits on it.

Everything you said is true for Ryzen and that board. I have to say the board is absolutely stunning in a white case.

 

[Vya Domus]

WTF? It's usually a struggle to get 1st gen Ryzen. Good luck putting a 3200MHz kit in a 1st gen Ryzen computer and expecting XMP to just work. Hell, it rarely works on Zen+ CPUs.

Even I got running one of the worst kits imaginable, a Corsair one, at 3300Mhz on a first gen Ryzen.

 

[bigbcool]

Everything you said is true for Ryzen and that board. I have to say the board is absolutely stunning in a white case.

Well yea, I guess if you're using the release day bios version of 1st Ryzen , theyv'e had hardly any issues running lots of kits at 3000/3200 since the first few agesa updates in 2017 apart from the corsair kits which are notorious for being picky on Ryzen and a few other IC's, but all in all most decent boards with Ryzen 1st gen CPU will easily run 3000mhz though dont expect to hit 3400 or above though that's a different beast. But 3000/3200mhz? yea pretty much all day long. Asrock AB350 Pro 4 had very good bios updates as well and was pretty solid with running 3000mhz+ kist from my own personal experience with it and having ran several different kits on it.

lemme just check was bios i have

Well yea, I guess if you're using the release day bios version of 1st Ryzen , theyv'e had hardly any issues running lots of kits at 3000/3200 since the first few agesa updates in 2017 apart from the corsair kits which are notorious for being picky on Ryzen and a few other IC's, but all in all most decent boards with Ryzen 1st gen CPU will easily run 3000mhz though dont expect to hit 3400 or above though that's a different beast. But 3000/3200mhz? yea pretty much all day long. Asrock AB350 Pro 4 had very good bios updates as well and was pretty solid with running 3000mhz+ kist from my own personal experience with it and having ran several different kits on it.

lemme just check was bios i have

k well my bios are from 2019 so it should be fine

 

[newtekie1]

Even I got running one of the worst kits imaginable, a Corsair one, at 3300Mhz on a first gen Ryzen.

I didn't say it wasn't possible to get it working, I said it is almost never as easy as just sticking the memory in and turning on XMP. Not in a 1st gen Ryzen system.

I'd still get the 3200MHz kit, because upgrading to a 3rd Gen is a possibility. But I wouldn't waste time trying to get them to run at 3200. I'd enable XMP, manually change the speed to 2933 and game on.

Well yea, I guess if you're using the release day bios version of 1st Ryzen , theyv'e had hardly any issues running lots of kits at 3000/3200 since the first few agesa updates in 2017 apart from the corsair kits which are notorious for being picky on Ryzen and a few other IC's, but all in all most decent boards with Ryzen 1st gen CPU will easily run 3000mhz though dont expect to hit 3400 or above though that's a different beast. But 3000/3200mhz? yea pretty much all day long. Asrock AB350 Pro 4 had very good bios updates as well and was pretty solid with running 3000mhz+ kist from my own personal experience with it and having ran several different kits on it.

All the BIOS updates in the world can't help the weak memory controller on 1st gen. I'd say what you are saying is more true of 2 gen. But 1st gen needs tweaking to get over 2933 in my experience.

 

[bigbcool]

I didn't say it wasn't possible to get it working, I said it is almost never as easy as just sticking the memory in and turning on XMP. Not in a 1st gen Ryzen system.

I'd still get the 3200MHz kit, because upgrading to a 3rd Gen is a possibility. But I wouldn't waste time trying to get them to run at 3200. I'd enable XMP, manually change the speed to 2933 and game on.

k but this is still alot of people against 1 person if so i can change the speed but the thing is the majority says it will work fine

 

[xman2007]

I didn't say it wasn't possible to get it working, I said it is almost never as easy as just sticking the memory in and turning on XMP. Not in a 1st gen Ryzen system.

It is though a lot of the times unless you're reaching for higher speeds/tighter timings, or just have incompatible RAM which yes does happen more on AMD than Intel, granted.

I'd still get the 3200MHz kit, because upgrading to a 3rd Gen is a possibility. But I wouldn't waste time trying to get them to run at 3200. I'd enable XMP, manually change the speed to 2933 and game on.

But surely you'd enable 3200 XMP and if it didn't work/wasn't stable THEN you would set it to 2933 and be done? I agree.

 

[newtekie1]

It is though a lot of the times unless you're reaching for higher speeds/tighter timings, or just have incompatible RAM which yes does happen more on AMD than Intel, granted.

Not in my experience it isn't. I've never had 3200 XMP just work out of the box on a Ryzen 1 system.

But surely you'd enable 3200 XMP and if it didn't work/wasn't stable THEN you would set it to 2933 and be done? I agree.

Actually, I'd enable XMP and set 2933 right away. Test stability, then go up to 3200 and test stability.

 

[bigbcool]

Not in my experience it isn't. I've never had 3200 XMP just work out of the box on a Ryzen 1 system.




Actually, I'd enable XMP and set 2933 right away. Test stability, then go up to 3200 and test stability.

were you using cosair ram?
and were you using 2017 bios from when 1st gen ryzen was released?

 

[xman2007]

I'd also take 2933 over 2666 although this might not represent a tremendous leap in performance, I think you might be looking at as much as around 5% improvement in FPS when gaming alone on Ryzen 1st gen, which to some is insignificant and others, free performance, so I guess it's how you feel on the matter, I have also recommended the OP just buy the 2666 kit for peace of mind if he is unsure of

Not in my experience it isn't. I've never had 3200 XMP just work out of the box on a Ryzen 1 system.




Actually, I'd enable XMP and set 2933 right away. Test stability, then go up to 3200 and test stability.

good for you man good for you

 

[bigbcool]

I'd also take 2933 over 2666 although this might not represent a tremendous leap in performance, I think you might be looking at as much as around 5% improvement in FPS when gaming alone on Ryzen 1st gen, which to some is insignificant and others, free performance, so I guess it's how you feel on the matter, I have also recommended the OP just buy the 2666 kit for peace of mind if he is unsure of

good for you man good for you

yea im fine with 3200 i have used xmp before and if it did not work i can underclock it to the next best thing if needed but probbally wont be needed

 

[Nike_486DX]

Just get the best bang for the buck ram modules u can find, then tighten the timings as low as u can... That is it. It is recommended to get Samsung chips and the modules to be dual-rank.

 

[newtekie1]

were you using cosair ram?
and were you using 2017 bios from when 1st gen ryzen was released?

No to both questions.

I've used practically every brand of RAM in multiple Ryzen 1 systems I've built through the years. XMP 3200 just doesn't work with it, it always requires tweaking to get stable. Hell, we get like 2 threads a week on here with people that upgraded their RAM on Ryzen 1 and asking why it won't work or why they can't get it to run at the rated speeds. People struggle, even today, just to get it to boot, even today with modern BIOSes. But even when it boots right out of the box, I've never had it pass stability testing, it always required tweaking. It seems stable at first, but it never really is.

But, like I said, get the 3200MHz kit. But when/if it doesn't boot or isn't stable at 3200MHz XMP, don't waste hours trying to tweak it to get it stable. Just set it to 2933 and move on. The performance improvement between 2993 and 3200 isn't even noticeable. It's not worth the time worrying about getting 3200MHz working if it doesn't work right away.

 

[bigbcool]

No to both questions.

I've used practically every brand of RAM in multiple Ryzen 1 systems I've built through the years. XMP 3200 just doesn't work with it, it always requires tweaking to get stable. Hell, we get like 2 threads a week on here with people that upgraded their RAM on Ryzen 1 and asking why it won't work or why they can't get it to run at the rated speeds. People struggle, even today, just to get it to boot, even today with modern BIOSes. But even when it boots right out of the box, I've never had it pass stability testing, it always required tweaking. It seems stable at first, but it never really is.

But, like I said, get the 3200MHz kit. But when/if it doesn't boot or isn't stable at 3200MHz XMP, don't waste hours trying to tweak it to get it stable. Just set it to 2933 and move on. The performance improvement between 2993 and 3200 isn't even noticeable. It's not worth the time worrying about getting 3200MHz working if it doesn't work right away.

it should always boot and your the only person on the whole thread reporting problems.
again i will underclock it if it isn't stable but it should be fine