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How to enable additional shaders on Radeon HD 6950

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BZB said:
There is no difference in AA capabilities between the 6950 and 6970. They both have the new morphological filtering. It's a post-processing filter using the stream processors, and AMD said they'll be backporting it to the 5950/5970 in the near future. In fact there are even hacked drivers that make it work now on the older cards.
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This is not true. 6950 dont have morphological filter. I do know cus i do have 1, Did the MOD and the option on CCC only shows with the 6970 bios.
I'm pretty sure of it!

And my instability problem was ralated to this filter and the driver. So now i do have a 6950 with shaders but NO morphological option. And thats the problem to me. I really dont care to 6970 clocks. I just want the filter.
 
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RatusNatus said:
This is not true. 6950 dont have morphological filter. I do know cus i do have 1, Did the MOD and the option on CCC only shows with the 6970 bios.
I'm pretty sure of it!

And my instability problem was ralated to this filter and the driver. So now i do have a 6950 with shaders but NO morphological option. And thats the problem to me. I really dont care to 6970 clocks. I just want the filter.
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We all (in this forum thread) have one 6950 !! and YES it has morphological AA no matter what bios you install. Just open CCC2 , under 3D settings you'll find it.
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RatusNatus said:
This is not true. 6950 dont have morphological filter. I do know cus i do have 1, Did the MOD and the option on CCC only shows with the 6970 bios.
I'm pretty sure of it!

And my instability problem was ralated to this filter and the driver. So now i do have a 6950 with shaders but NO morphological option. And thats the problem to me. I really dont care to 6970 clocks. I just want the filter.
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Check the reviews, it's there. It's in my CCC. I can turn it on and get MLAA happening in games and benchmarks. I'd suggest you try re-installing your drivers.

I've got a 6950 with a shader modded BIOS, and with the 10.12a hotfix drivers, MLAA is a tickbox setting under 3D -> AA.

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itsdanny said:
No. It's not safe, do not change VID1 or VID2.
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This is not completly true... I changed my 2D VID2 from 900mV to 850mV which gave me 2°C lower temps in 2D! BUT: 800mV did NOT work for me (Blackscreen in Windows - thanks to Dual Bios :) )... This seams to be very sensitive!

@dulemk: Your settings shows once more that many BIOSe have many different VID Positions... You have to try it by your own / or not....
 
DJManiac said:
This is not completly true... I changed my 2D VID2 from 900mV to 850mV which gave me 2°C lower temps in 2D! BUT: 800mV did NOT work for me (Blackscreen in Windows - thanks to Dual Bios :) )... This seams to be very sensitive!
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Exactly. I could lower mine to around 770mv. 750mv was really too low though :D This resulted in a black screen as well. Idle temps are around 31C, which is a lot better than my old GTX275.
 
Lots of info to go through ... but from what i've read, the least risky thing to do is build up your own/custom firmware then unlock the extra shaders?

I have 4 XFX 6950's coming (2 xfire setups), and I was wondering how i'd go about doing this? This way they are not overvolted, and wont cause any damage to the cards themselves.

If I missed the post on how to do this, direct me!

If anyone could also give me an idea, why this is a bad idea, and that flashing directly to 6970 works, then please tell me ... but from what i've read, it causes the cards to use more watt's then they can/capable of.
 
yonef said:
We all (in this forum thread) have one 6950 !! and YES it has morphological AA no matter what bios you install. Just open CCC2 , under 3D settings you'll find it.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1389/captureny.jpg
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Well, i dont have it. And i really dont want to do a fresh install.

So, the hotfix tis just a hotfix or its a driver itself cuz i did install only the hotfix and not the 10.12 without A.

vivithemage said:
If I missed the post on how to do this, direct me!
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You'll need to do card by card. Only 1 on your pc to flash it.
You can flash any 6970 bios or free the shaders of your own bios. The files on the W1zzard article are just to flash to 6970. It has a saphire 6970 bios there.
If you want to MOD your bios to free the shaders only, you'll need another script. Look till page 15 and you'll find it.
You can do all by scripts. Really easy.

Recovery:
Set to position 2, boot,... with the PC ON set it back to 1 and flash it(script again).

Thats it.
 
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I assume that is the smart/safe way to do it? mod my own, for my XFX cards, just to unlock shaders?
 
vivithemage said:
I assume that is the smart/safe way to do it? mod my own, for my XFX cards, just to unlock shaders?
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Do you know how many times this question has been made?

Guess the answer? READ the whole thread.
 
vivithemage said:
I assume that is the smart/safe way to do it? mod my own, for my XFX cards, just to unlock shaders?
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That's safer supposedly. They say the 6970 bios damages some cards. I too have an XFX 6950, and I'm currently running the 6970 bios OC'd in CCC to 900/1425 + 20% on the default 1.1.75v. I haven't noticed any problems, but then again, they may come later.
 
manofthem said:
That's safer supposedly. They say the 6970 bios damages some cards. I too have an XFX 6950, and I'm currently running the 6970 bios OC'd in CCC to 900/1425 + 20% on the default 1.1.75v. I haven't noticed any problems, but then again, they may come later.
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Thanks for that. That is what I am worried about, my plan is to run the cards for at least 1-2 years in xfire with that firmware.

Qed said:
Do you know how many times this question has been made?

Guess the answer? READ the whole thread.
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I don't really want to read through 62 pages of it, but it might be my only option.
 
So the final result is that nor VID3 nor VID4 work for me, even combined (increased to 1.2v).

So what is going on here??
 
RatusNatus said:
Well, i dont have it. And i really dont want to do a fresh install.

So, the hotfix tis just a hotfix or its a driver itself cuz i did install only the hotfix and not the 10.12 without A.
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The hotfix is a complete driver - you just install it over your current setup just as you would an ordinary driver. If you still don't get the MLAA tickbox, then I'd remove all the ATI software using the ATI Manager "uninstall all" options, reboot, and then try and reinstall again.

However, the official 11.1a for 69xx cards is due out tomorrow, so you might want to wait for that if you don't want to do the whole thing twice.
 
vivithemage said:
Thanks for that. That is what I am worried about, my plan is to run the cards for at least 1-2 years in xfire with that firmware.



I don't really want to read through 62 pages of it, but it might be my only option.
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Maybe read post #1493. It explains somewhat why cards have problems and some don't; it has to do with the different memory chips used. They say the chips used on the 6950 aren't rated for 1375, which is what the 6970 runs at. But for I've been running my memory at atleast 1375 since January 3rd, and it's still rock solid. Maybe XFX uses the better chip, not sure. Maybe someone knows here.
 
manofthem said:
...I've been running my memory at atleast 1375 since January 3rd, and it's still rock solid. Maybe XFX uses the better chip, not sure. Maybe someone knows here.
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I've got XFX.
I've been running mine for 3 weeks, rock solid, no sign of isues, but then suddenly started to artefact while in windows (idle clocks)?!* and then I've reverted back to modded 6950 bios. Fortunatelly it is not perm. damaged. I think mem timings and voltage are different on 6970 bios.
On your place I'll get back to modded 6950 bios with 6970 clocks and it is absolutely same performance and it is safe enough.
 
yonef said:
I've got XFX.
I've been running mine for 3 weeks, rock solid, no sign of isues, but then suddenly started to artefact while in windows (idle clocks)?!* and then I've reverted back to modded 6950 bios. Fortunatelly it is not perm. damaged. I think mem timings and voltage are different on 6970 bios.
On your place I'll get back to modded 6950 bios with 6970 clocks and it is absolutely same performance and it is safe enough.
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Oh alright thanks. I guess I'll shoot back to modded bios and OC. I don't understand though. If I OC my modded bios to over the default settings of the 6970, will it be safe? Only difference would be perhaps memory timings...
 
DJManiac said:
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Remember all cards are not the same. While most 6950 cards use T2C mem chips which are rated at 1250Mhz, there are a few 6950 cards that use the R0C, the chips used on the 6970. Those really lucky folks should have no problems running 1375, while 6950s with the T2C chips are always at a risk. Some T2Cs might not fail at 1375 but some will, especially those with insufficient cooling. I'd stick to 6950 modded bios and overclock only the core, 1250 is good enough and far less risk.
Thanks for this usefull info! As I will strip of my stock cooler today (to mount Accelero XTREME) I will take a closer look at the RAM chips to find out which one my XFX 6950 has...

Up to now 1500 on MEM is no problem here...

Will report!
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Have those T2C Chips on my card but no probs here with higher RAM clocks... For now quite a month!
 
BZB said:
The hotfix is a complete driver - you just install it over your current setup just as you would an ordinary driver. If you still don't get the MLAA tickbox, then I'd remove all the ATI software using the ATI Manager "uninstall all" options, reboot, and then try and reinstall again.

However, the official 11.1a for 69xx cards is due out tomorrow, so you might want to wait for that if you don't want to do the whole thing twice.
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Thanks for the reply. I think my problem is not even the driver.
Check the card on Kombustor image.
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Do anyone know how can i solve this problem. Already use the driver cleaner and 3800 still there.
 
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manofthem said:
Maybe read post #1493. It explains somewhat why cards have problems and some don't; it has to do with the different memory chips used. They say the chips used on the 6950 aren't rated for 1375, which is what the 6970 runs at. But for I've been running my memory at atleast 1375 since January 3rd, and it's still rock solid. Maybe XFX uses the better chip, not sure. Maybe someone knows here.
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I have the saphire version and mine runs mint at 1375 aswell i cant overlock cause i dont have enuff cooling
 
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