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$500 for a processor? A single component of your system? Not just no but hell no! I like performance as much as the next TechPowerUP user but there's definitely a dollar amount that I'm going to stop at in order to get that performance. Anything past that dollar amount and I just don't care.

There's paying to have the best performance and then there's paying stupid amounts. $500 is very much within the realm of pure stupidity, if not firmly in the realm of wallet raping.
 
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r5 ryzen way better for games considering that power consumption e price
 
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^ You didn't seriously spend $700 on that did you? It's $525 at BestBuy last I looked.


I'm not sure if you READ THE ENTIRE COMMENT but as I said, it was on sale before they even released them.

I even have a tax free card to prevent me from paying the extra 40 bucks.
 
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I'm not sure if you READ THE ENTIRE COMMENT but as I said, it was on sale before they even released them.

I even have a tax free card to prevent me from paying the extra 40 bucks.

Cut the attitude. You never gave a "sale" price, so I thought you meant "on sale" as in they put it out for sale before it would typically be available. I was just going by the $699 sticker on the box, so yeah, no shit it was "on sale". It'll never retail for that.

And tax fraud, that's cool bro. Your tone there makes it sound as if you're not buying it for whatever you have a tax free card for. :p
 
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Real gamers use Intel. And game at 720P where it wins!!
 
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Of course, we would have wished for more with this release, but I have to admit that yet again, Intel managed to squeeze more life out of their Coffee Lake architecture to keep consumers happy until Comet Lake arrives next year

You surely meant Sky Lake as this CPU is still based on the Sky Lake uArch which turned 4 yo last August. I don't remember Intel ever dragging their CPU uArchs for so long.
 
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Just to throw in my experience.

Maximus XI Hero board and 9900ks.

Not went above 1.4v but able to boot into windows at 5.5GHz

Can game at 5.4Ghz with avx set to zero. (Only tested Outer Worlds so far) and temps sit around 45-55 during the gaming session. So far this chip is excellent compared to my previous 7700K :)

When I have time I'll experiment see if I can get 5.4GHz stable. Id be happy with 5.3GHz to be fair...
 
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LOL. This review just reminded me what an excellent bang-for-buck the 3700x is.
I think you over looked the Ryzen 5 3600 with 209%. That has to be worthy of the title performance per dollar spent?
 
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This CPU went on sale immediately before I even bought it from Microcenter. The CPU war between Intel and AMD is more pronounced than the GPU war between AMD and Nvidia because AMD has no competition whatsoever for Nvidia on the high end, and only can score points on the low end for cheap budget builds.

This CPU is a beast. 5.0 GHz across all cores.

AMD can outperformit on paper or benchmarks...but there is no doubt who's on top when the GAMES start being played.

Most people want a Gaming computer and multitask to editing (like Youtubbers).

AMD CPU are for people who WORK on their computers rather than game.

Most games now are GPU intensive rather than CPU intensive and most gamers are running in 1080p or 1440p rather than 4K. It's easy to buy a powerful CPU with future proofing for a few years.

You can still game on an i5 or i7 4790 just fine with an RTX card.
This CPU went on sale immediately before I even bought it from Microcenter. The CPU war between Intel and AMD is more pronounced than the GPU war between AMD and Nvidia because AMD has no competition whatsoever for Nvidia on the high end, and only can score points on the low end for cheap budget builds.

This CPU is a beast. 5.0 GHz across all cores.

AMD can outperformit on paper or benchmarks...but there is no doubt who's on top when the GAMES start being played.

Most people want a Gaming computer and multitask to editing (like Youtubbers).

AMD CPU are for people who WORK on their computers rather than game.

Most games now are GPU intensive rather than CPU intensive and most gamers are running in 1080p or 1440p rather than 4K. It's easy to buy a powerful CPU with future proofing for a few years.

You can still game on an i5 or i7 4790 just fine with an RTX card.
Same thing can be said for any Ryzen processor
 
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I think you over looked the Ryzen 5 3600 with 209%. That has to be worthy of the title performance per dollar spent?
Lol. Most definitely. I recommend that, particularly for most users and gamers. Best to spend more money on the gpu. I just like the 3700x more, because of the core count. Personal preference . I find it laughable how intel is marketing this processor to gamers, particularly when reflecting on real world game performance. This thing only comes with a one year warranty, too.
 
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Cut the attitude. You never gave a "sale" price, so I thought you meant "on sale" as in they put it out for sale before it would typically be available. I was just going by the $699 sticker on the box, so yeah, no shit it was "on sale". It'll never retail for that.

And tax fraud, that's cool bro. Your tone there makes it sound as if you're not buying it for whatever you have a tax free card for. :p

It's not Tax Fraud if that benefit comes with your job. I file taxes annually - and have NEVER been audited. I keep records on everything.

LEARN TO READ before you have something stupid to say.
 
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well, that review confirmed it for me: a R6 3600 or a R7 3700X are more desirable than that i9-9900KS

so much for gaming usage domination ... given the differences in fps, unless 76fps versus 78fps is a huge gape
 
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It's 570 at Microcenter, when you factor in the "savings". Probably over $600 with the cooler. Almost $300 more than the 3700x, which it's only 10% faster than, and much more inefficient.
It's not Tax Fraud if that benefit comes with your job. I file taxes annually - and have NEVER been audited. I keep records on everything.

LEARN TO READ before you have something stupid to say.

Am I the only one that READ the $699 sticker on the box?

Goddamn you guys are touchy.
 
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so with best Air cooling , OC Temp will reach 97'c , so Only option : Water cooling
 
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Am I the only one that READ the $699 sticker on the box?

Goddamn you guys are touchy.

I saw the sticker price, I was just revealing the actual price since you inquired if the sticker is what he actually paid. I have no idea how that makes me "touchy," but ok, I guess. Lol.
 
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I saw the sticker price, I was just revealing the actual price since you inquired if the sticker is what he actually paid. I have no idea how that makes me "touchy," but ok, I guess. Lol.
Yeah, sorry, quoted you more for reference!
 

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so with best Air cooling , OC Temp will reach 97'c , so Only option : Water cooling
3°C more before it becomes "only option", or have more luck with the silicon lottery :)
 
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There's the $700 budget build guide you guys just released, which is a pretty good console-killer that also happens to do all the things a console can't do, with all the games that a console can't have, and can be upgraded incrementally in all the ways a console never will ;)
True for this gen, but I feel like PS5 will obliterate any build that's under $2k, and it comes with it's own exclusives too. As for this CPU might as well call it Pentium 4 EE anniversary edition. Intel is in a position of Deliverance piggy squealer guy.
 
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I feel like PS5 will obliterate any build that's under $2k

I am assuming you aren't really familiar with these things, for the PS5 you're looking at something equivalent to a fairly underclocked RX 5700 and an 8 core Zen 2 processor. The only thing that it will obliterate is going to be the PS4.
 
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True for this gen, but I feel like PS5 will obliterate any build that's under $2k
PS5 when it releases is gonna be at best on par with a 2 year old mid tier desktop..... (yeah it's not obliterating anything)
I am assuming you aren't really familiar with these things, for the PS5 you're looking at something equivalent to a fairly underclocked RX 5700 and an 8 core Zen 2 processor. The only thing that it will obliterate is going to be the PS4.
Agreed. PS4 will have restrictions with the CPU due to cooling (will use modern Ryzen but will be clocked at least 1ghz slower than the desktop counterpart + not all the cores will be available for gaming) and 5700 performance isn't terrible but reality is that's the equivalent of a 2016 GTX 1080 (PS5 in 2021 is gonna have the GPU power of a 2016 desktop card, you cannot realistically say it's gonna beat even a $1000 desktop)
 
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Don’t know why his r20 hit almost 5400. My 5.2ghz KS hit only 5264 even I pair with 4000mhz ram. Maybe real time priority?
 
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At 1080P, only Sekiro and Farcry 5 show any significant difference between the 9900KS and the 3900X. Obviously this is some kind of game optimization for Intel. If you drop (or at least substitute for two others) these two games then the performance will be the same.

Am I missing something here?
 
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Don’t know why his r20 hit almost 5400. My 5.2ghz KS hit only 5264 even I pair with 4000mhz ram. Maybe real time priority?


Seems a little low to me... My 5.1ghz score with just windows handling priorities.
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