internet security is it worth to buy?

[Joss]

Sandboxie, properly configured and used, is bullet proof and very light.
It's not your usual anti virus though, which is designed for the average Joe; but it's worth the learning curve.

 

[Gorstak]

Sandboxie, properly configured and used, is bullet proof and very light.
It's not your usual anti virus though, which is designed for the average Joe; but it's worth the learning curve.

I think I tried that out a few years ago. But I couldn't figure out what to do with it. Basically, if you want to be secure, you need to keep stuff in sandbox, but if you want to use the app you downloaded, you need to get it out of sandbox. Didn't see the point so I uninstalled it. Shadow defender, on the other hand, can be quite useful. You basically create a snapshot of your system, and after restart, system is returned to last saved snapshot and all changes removed. There was even a giveaway for it a while back.

 

[Joss]

Basically, if you want to be secure, you need to keep stuff in sandbox, but if you want to use the app, you need to get it out of sandbox

That's not how it works

 

[Gorstak]

That's not how it works

Could you explain, please? I tried to use it to make my browser secure, but everything I downloaded required a complicated procedure to get out of sandbox to get it working properly.

 

[Splinterdog]

We have five or six PCs in our house, all running Windows 10/Defender, with no third party anti-virus and we've had no problems at all.
Defender is lightweight, doesn't get in your face and it's effective, with the odd false positive from time to time.
It really depends on what kind of family protection you're looking for.

 

[Gorstak]

defender is mostly used to detect kms activators after metadata of that being downloaded is sent to microsoft....

 

[Splinterdog]

defender is mostly used to detect kms activators after metadata of that being downloaded is sent to microsoft....

Well, that's an uninformed and sweeping statement. MOSTLY implies that it's spyware especially concocted by MS to make sure we're all Kosher.

 

[lexluthermiester]

MOSTLY implies that it's spyware especially concocted by MS to make sure we're all Kosher.

Actually, this is part of what it does.

 

[rtwjunkie]

between Windows defender, uBlock Origin, Common Sense (ie: Teach your kids how to use the internet the right way) and OpenDNS you shouldn't have any problems with Malware/Virus's/Cryptware

You’re right, no drive-by’s ever happen even on reputable websites.

 

[Athlonite]

defender is mostly used to detect kms activators after metadata of that being downloaded is sent to microsoft....

WTF are you smoking if you have a cracked copy of say Windows 8.1 and did the free upgrade to 10 you instantly became a legit Windows user end of story there should be no need to run a KMS for Windows 10 today (seeing as how you can still upgrade for free)

You’re right, no drive-by’s ever happen even on reputable websites.

I've never had a drive by using exactly what I described so either your view of an "Reputable WebSite" and mine are completely different or your going to places best left alone

 

[Joss]

...but everything I downloaded required a complicated procedure to get out of sandbox...

You can browse always sandboxed and it'll only take one click every time you want something, a downloaded file for ex., out of the sandbox. Same with other sandboxed apps like the e-mail client, torrent client, etc.
But, you will have to go thoroughly through the settings and that's a steep learning curve. Don't use Sandboxie unless you know very well all its, many, subtleties; trust me on this one.
To sum it up: it's worth the time to learn it (you will never need any other security software) but it'll take time.

 

[Gorstak]

You can browse always sandboxed and it'll only take one click every time you want something, a downloaded file for ex., out of the sandbox. Same with other sandboxed apps like the e-mail client, torrent client, etc.
But, you will have to go thoroughly through the settings and that's a steep learning curve. Don't use Sandboxie unless you know very well all its, many, subtleties; trust me on this one.
To sum it up: it's worth the time to learn it (you will never need any other security software) but it'll take time.

Uhm, is it possible to sandbbox entire os, or just the entire networking part? For example, can i keep incoming windows management connections somehow sandboxed? And, uh, what happens when bad things happen? Do I rebuild the entire sandbox? Do I need to install all apps again? How do torrents actually work sandboxed, and what would happen to them if the thing crashes?

 

[denixius]

Hello,

I think it is better to continue with Internet Security on your surfing, shopping or etc. I recommend you to use ESET Internet Security (link). Because, for me at least, it has many options that can be customizable deeply.

Cheers!

 

[qubit]

I've been using Kaspersky Internet Security since 2006* and it's been great.

*No, not the same unupdated application version!

 

[Joss]

How do torrents actually work sandboxed

That's one of what I called "subtleties".
For ex. if you click on a torrent link while your browser is sandboxed your torrent client will open sandboxed and the downloads folder will be sandboxed too. This will pose problems because if you close the browser everything inside that sandboxed will be erased (presuming you chose the option "automatically delete contents of sandbox", which you should).
So the best option would be: save the torrent file outside the sandbox, open it with an unsandboxed client, have the client download the torrent to a sandboxed folder.

 

[Gorstak]

But If you want to use the torrent, you need to get it out of sandbox?
Or the torrent gets deleted if I close sandbox?

 

[Joss]

Sandboxed folders work differently from sandboxed programs (but both can be configured granularly).
Ex. you download a video, movie, to a forced sandboxed folder. When you click the video the media player will run sandboxed too. when you close the media player (and thus close the sandbox) the video file will remain in the folder.
If you want to move the video file to a regular folder just drag/drop or copy/paste.

 

[Gorstak]

So, if I want to download subtitles, the sandboxed media player works normally on internet?
What is stopping something malicious to copy itself out of forced sandboxed folder, if it's easy as drag n drop? Is there a password or something?
Another question: can the sandboxie be configured to protect all network adapters and everything connected to them?

 

[qubit]

So, if I want to download subtitles, the sandboxed media player works normally on internet?
What is stopping something malicious to copy itself out of forced sandboxed folder, if it's easy as drag n drop? Is there a password or something?
Another question: can the sandboxie be configured to protect all network adapters and everything connected to them?

There's always the possibility that a malicious program can break out of the sandbox by exploiting bugs in the sandbox software, or other means. It's impossible to be 100% certain that this won't happen, so you never have complete peace of mind.

 

[Joss]

So, if I want to download subtitles, the sandboxed media player works normally on internet?

Yes, but because it's sandboxed the subtitles will be erased on close (but you can save them manually).

What is stopping something malicious to copy itself out of forced sandboxed folder

The sandbox won't allow that (if it's properly configured).

if it's easy as drag n drop

The drag n drop will be your action, and you're supposed to be sure that the file is safe before unsandbox it.

can the sandboxie be configured to protect all network adapters and everything connected to them?

dunno, do your home work.

 

[Gorstak]

dunno, do your home work.

Nah, didn't do that when I was a kid either. Plus, I thought you knew the subtleties?

Ok. No moar questions.

 

[Komshija]

One of the best on the market is Kaspersky Total Security.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I've never had a drive by using exactly what I described so either your view of an "Reputable WebSite" and mine are completely different or your going to places best left alone

I don’t get infections and don’t browse where I shouldn’t. If you’ve not ever read about any drive by infections from known and “reputable” websites then you obviously keep your head in the sand and don’t read any of the thousands of security articles available to you.

Defender is fine to use though. When one does all financial transactions online, at least one AntiMalware should be used, such as Defender or any good paid ones.

 

[Athlonite]

@rtwjunkie I never said I hadn't heard about or read about them just that I've never suffered one from any site that I've been too

 

[MatGrow]

But which one?

It's ESET NOD32 i use many years already.
I love the full protection.