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OK come on calm down and that is really not called for . GOD why is it people have to use that word ?

Because it's what I feel like everytime I get flamed for being an idiot.
 

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Read my last post. I have trouble understanding where the situation is at.

And I'm still trying to figure out why everyone is flaming my post. What the hell did I do this time? I just put my opinion in reading from the first post.

I am sorry I was not trying to flame you at all . NO my comment was directed at the OP I was quoting you and erocker is all . Trying to clear up the misunderstanding is all I can see it funny you 2 are not seeing it though . LOL OH and you are not an idiot ! Far from that I would say you are very smart ! 99.9% of the TPU users are very smart !
 
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I wasn't thinking any of that. I don't really think ill of anyone and I appreciate those who do think differently. I just wanted to let hellrazor know that it's not healthy getting upset over learning something new. Nobody is flaming your post. :)

And there's a perfect example. I couldn't work out whether the flame was at me or not? I'm now confused as hell, and then I'll end up making a stupid reply post like this one.
 
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And there's a perfect example. I couldn't work out whether the flame was at me or not? I'm now confused as hell, and then I'll end up making a stupid reply post like this one.

Heh, it's allright man, nothing to worry about at all. We're all different people from different corners of the planet, there's going to be confusion once in a while. :toast:
 

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Read my last post. I have trouble understanding where the situation is at.

And I'm still trying to figure out why everyone is flaming my post. What the hell did I do this time? I just put my opinion in reading from the first post.

And there's a perfect example. I couldn't work out whether the flame was at me or not? I'm now confused as hell, and then I'll end up making a stupid reply post like this one.

LOL but it is just getting funny now ! We went from some one bitching and whining about windows 7 to this ! :laugh: :slap: :nutkick:

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Ive gone back and carefully read through your sentence and worked out that the post was not directed at me. It just you didn't use any names when opening the post and I ended up thinking it was for me. Because I'm going to college too right now.

/sigh Back on topic?
 

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Ive gone back and carefully read through your sentence and worked out that the post was not directed at me. It just you didn't use any names when opening the post and I ended up thinking it was for me. Because I'm going to college too right now.

OH man . You college people have me rolling on the FLOOR ! I for got what the hell this thread was about ! What is it again ? windows 7 or some thing like that :wtf:
 
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OH man . You college people have me rolling on the FLOOR ! I for got what the hell this thread was about ! What is it again ? windows 7 or some thing like that :wtf:

Yo man before u blame College, whenever reading social text in a thread like this I tend to miss stuff because of Aspergers, if I want to get something cleared up I either have to read it carefully and slowly and work it out for myself or have someone explain it to me.
 

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Yo man before u blame College, whenever reading social text in a thread like this I tend to miss stuff because of Aspergers, if I want to get something cleared up I either have to read it carefully and slowly and work it out for myself or have someone explain it to me.

I meant no harm and no ill-intentions were directed at you or college people . I know college is hard on you guys ( My son is in college ) . I hope we can get back on topic soon though .

Windows 7 it a totally remade revamped OS it has tons of NEW and improved thing in it and it is far faster and far more user friendly than all the other OS's Microsoft has put out .
Yes it will take some time to get used to it and to learn all the good things it offers but hey why not ? It is fun and exciting !
 

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i'll just share one piece of advice: the more you change in the OS to get it like XP, the less you will like it. its not made to be another XP, its a new layout and design.

its also fairly intuitive if you look around in there, for example the start menu changed a lot - but the stuff worth changing (programs merging into one icon in taskbar, etc) are all very easy to change that behaviour.


most of it, i suggest you learn to get used to, instead of trying to change things. or else you'll just go through this same crap next OS change as well.
 

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@hellrazor, just read your OP rant, it made me laugh. :toast:

Sure, the interface is dumbed down in a few ways and it's frustrating, I know what you mean. However, the OS is a lot better in many ways, a lot of them under the skin. Stability is the one that stands out for me and general smoothness.

I thought XP was stable until I started using 7 and there is a tangible difference between them.

To bring back some of the interface niceties that they took off XP when making Vista/7, you'll want this little gem, the freeware Classic Shell, available from Sourceforge: http://classicshell.sourceforge.net

It adds back things like the Up button (yes, the Up button!) and showing the size of the Recycle Bin, among many others. Why they removed this stuff, is beyond me. It also adds UI features that Windows never had before.

I've attached the settings I use for my desktop, which should be a good starting point for you.
 

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Namely, it can occupy a lot less space and virtually everything in it could be removed with little effort. It really only serves one purpose: start a process be it opening an application or beginning the shutdown process. It doesn't need to be that big, have a user-selected picture, show a user name, nor have all these links most poeple never use.

Not to mention the addition of a unified "Documents" directory. It pisses me off because it hides things I often browse so I end up having to go through My Computer when "My Documents" worked 99% of the time in XP.

Oh, and virtually everyone I know turns Aero off in 7 because the title of the window is more useful than a picture and that's the only way to make it return to text.

The only thing they did right with Windows 6.# is making ctrl+alt+del bring up a fullscreen window so that it overrides anything that is currently running (allows escaping out of locked up games).

Oddly enough, the grips you do have, actually can be customized to eliminate the problem. The start menu can be customized(all be it via a 3rd party app that is free) to eliminate what you feel isn't necessary. However, what does it matter if it has a little extra eye candy fluff that makes it take up a little more space? Unless you're running 1024x768, I don't see the problem.

Unified documents can be disabled by disabling libraries if you want, though the one on the start menu does lead to the single documents folder, not the unified one, assuming you are openning the one that comes up when you hover over your username. Again, this can be customized.

As for turning off Aero to get titles back on windows, that is only explorer Windows, all other windows display a title with Aero(unless the software itself doesn't have this feature). Explorer windows don't really need a title since the title is in the address bar. Of course you can again use a 3rd party application(classis shell again) to customize this if you wish.

But again, your complains aren't about customization. They are things that changed, and you might not like, but nothing about how WinXP was more customizable than Win7. If anything Win7 is more customizable. It allows for the entire shell to easily be replaced, WinXP was a hassle. Win7 allows for a custom background on the logon screen natively, WinXP a pain in the ass. Trust me, I have my problems with Win7/Vista compared to WinXP(removal of up arrow and easy access to network connections), and I think there was a lot of things they changed that I don't like as much as XP, but being less customizable isn't one of them.
 
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Re the Up arrow/button. Dunno if you saw my post previous to yours, but with Classic Shell, you can bring it back. This was one of the things I missed most from XP.
 

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Re the Up arrow/button. Dunno if you saw my post previous to yours, but with Classic Shell, you can bring it back. This was one of the things I missed most from XP.

Yeah, I posted a link to my Classic Shell thread in my first responce to the thread. I know how to get the up arrow back, I was just agreeing with Ford that there are definitely some things that were changed in Windows that were rather stupid. There really wasn't a reason to remove the up arrow. It is a little annoying, even if you can customize it with a 3rd party program to get it back.
 

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Oddly enough, the grips you do have, actually can be customized to eliminate the problem. The start menu can be customized(all be it via a 3rd party app that is free) to eliminate what you feel isn't necessary. However, what does it matter if it has a little extra eye candy fluff that makes it take up a little more space? Unless you're running 1024x768, I don't see the problem.
Simple, really. I hate "eye candy." I love functionality. The faster I can get something done, the happier I am. If "pretty" gets in the way, I get annoyed, fast.


As for turning off Aero to get titles back on windows, that is only explorer Windows, all other windows display a title with Aero(unless the software itself doesn't have this feature). Explorer windows don't really need a title since the title is in the address bar. Of course you can again use a 3rd party application(classis shell again) to customize this if you wish.
I often have 10+ browsers/applications open at once and the title tells me exactly why I have each one open without having to studying a microscopic image to figure it out.

I don't use any 3rd party applications specifically designed to modify the functionality of Windows. This is stuff Windows did in the past that it no longer does--a downgrade.
 

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Simple, really. I hate "eye candy." I love functionality. The faster I can get something done, the happier I am. If "pretty" gets in the way, I get annoyed, fast.



I often have 10+ browsers/applications open at once and the title tells me exactly why I have each one open without having to studying a microscopic image to figure it out.

I don't use any 3rd party applications specifically designed to modify the functionality of Windows. This is stuff Windows did in the past that it no longer does--a downgrade.

Yes, but none of that has anything to do with how customizable the OS is, I don't disagree with you that there are some things that have changed that are annoying. Where I disagree is what this has to do with the customizability of the OS. You said Win7 is less customizable, but listing a bunch of features that have changed that have nothing to do with customization isn't explaining that statement.

If you don't like eye candy, running without Aero shouldn't matter to you. I personally like eye candy, and so do the majority of users.

I'm not sure what you are referencing when you are talking about studying the little icon though. Are you talking about the Taskbar, or the actual titles in the Windows? Because the titles on the acutal windows are still there with Aero enabled, and there is an option for the titles to be displayed in the taskbar, so I'm a little confused here.
 
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Eye candy is part of the reason i dont use Linux. Im sure you can customize it to get it the way you want, but it takes a helluva lot more effort to make it look pretty than it is to downgrade windows to look like ubuntu.
 

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The applications I use every day (Hex Workshop, Visual Studio, EditPlus, ArtMoney, etc.) don't run on Linux.

I wish I could kill some Themes service like Windows XP and have it fall back to a Server 2000'esque apperance like XP and Server 2003 did.


Windows 7 start menu = 411x477 pixels
Server 2003 R2 x64 Edition start menu = 177x277 pixels

I added "Microsoft Update" to Server 2003, otherwise it is stock.
Windows 7, I removed Documents and all the pinned ones, added "Run..." It does less and it wastes a ton more space.

If that wasn't bad enough, Windows 7 has "Small Icons" enabled and Server 2003 does not.


Don't get me started on "pinning" (all gone, replaced by ye old quick launch bar). In the space it took Windows 7 to display one icon, I have 4.
 
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Re the Up arrow/button. Dunno if you saw my post previous to yours, but with Classic Shell, you can bring it back. This was one of the things I missed most from XP.

its useless. it was replaced by the ability to click on the folder




in that, you can click on 'computer' C: or windows, and it takes you to that folder. why click up repeatedly, when you can click directly to the folder you want to go to?
 

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its useless. it was replaced by the ability to click on the folder

http://img.techpowerup.org/110315/Capture368.jpg


in that, you can click on 'computer' C: or windows, and it takes you to that folder. why click up repeatedly, when you can click directly to the folder you want to go to?

Except when the folder name is so long, or the windows is so small, that only the name of the current folder is displayed...

I wish I could kill some Themes service like Windows XP and have it fall back to a Server 2000'esque apperance like XP and Server 2003 did.

It is called Themes in the services list, and it does just that. However, it doesn't change the start menu, but it didn't do that in XP/2003 either.

Windows 7 start menu = 411x477 pixels
Server 2003 R2 x64 Edition start menu = 177x277 pixels

I added "Microsoft Update" to Server 2003, otherwise it is stock.
Windows 7, I removed Documents and all the pinned ones, added "Run..." It does less and it wastes a ton more space.

If that wasn't bad enough, Windows 7 has "Small Icons" enabled and Server 2003 does not.


Don't get me started on "pinning" (all gone, replaced by ye old quick launch bar). In the space it took Windows 7 to display one icon, I have 4.

Win7 also has a useful search box that 2003 doesn't have. But you are talking about the difference between the classic start menu and the modern one, and the modern one is definitely more userful. Yes, the modern one is bigger, but unless you have the smallest monitor on earth, it won't matter. And it isn't any less functional.

As for pinning, I prefer it, but understand that others perfer quicklaunch instead. Luckily you can customize this in Win7. Where is the option for Pinning/Superbar in Windows XP/2003?
 
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Except when the folder name is so long, or the windows is so small, that only the name of the current folder is displayed...

Getting a bigger screen solves this. :)
 

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Getting a bigger screen solves this. :)

No it doesn't. A higher resolution might, but even with a 1080p monitor I still run into the ocassional folder with a name long enough to take up the entire address bar.
 
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No it doesn't. A higher resolution might, but even with a 1080p monitor I still run into the ocassional folder with a name long enough to take up the entire address bar.

Smaller file paths then?:eek:
 
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