Lack of reset switches on premium modern cases

[freeagent]

You have to push it with a pen?

Talk like that makes me want to restore my Stacker STC-T01 lol.. old school buttons for an old school case.

Eh.. maybe not right now.

 

[toilet pepper]

On my Lian Li PC A05 you have to use a pen to be able to push it because the button is small enough. Its convenient in the sense that it is impossible to press accidentally but it is there when you need it.

In a case where the reset button is hard to push I just route it to be a clear CMOS button as well. Which really helped a lot in the early days of Ryzen.

 

[seth1911]

If i search for similiar cases to my one, i cant find anything till 100€ (my case was about 78€):
2x 5,25" external,
2 controllers each for 3 Fans
Behind the frontpanel a dustfilter
On the backside 2 Cutouts for an external watercooler

Its out now for 8 years and its still a very good case:

Nanoxia Deep Silence 4 schwarz ab € 98,33 (2023) | Preisvergleich Geizhals Österreich

✔ Preisvergleich für Nanoxia Deep Silence 4 schwarz ✔ Bewertungen ✔ Produktinfo ⇒ Extern: 2x 5.25", 1x 3.5" (in 5.25" Schacht) • Intern: 6x 2.5"/3.5" (quer, Laufwerksschienen), 1x 2.5" • … ✔ PC-Gehäuse ✔ Testberichte ✔ Günstig kaufen

geizhals.at

 

[OneMoar]

reset switches are kind of redundant
modern operating systems have no need of them

 

[Totally]

Never understood why a reset button is needed when holding down the power button and turning on the unit back on accomplishes the same thing.

 

[Tetras]

Isn't there a keyboard shortcut to reset the system? I seem to recall pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL with my latest system (prior to Windows being loaded, I mean).

 

[chrcoluk]

Wow thats bad, I remember been annoyed the lack of hdd led on my fractal and ended up buying a separate led cable for it.

To get rid of reset seems lazy and adds extra power cycles for situations of lockups, frozen shutdowns etc.

With that said I dont like most new cases anyway, as they all seem like empty shells now with no proper hdd caddies etc., luckily fractal still sell the R5.

Ultimately its on the reviewers to shout out this isnt acceptable, and make it prominent enough in the review to get attention. This is what happens when the media just accept regressive changes as ultimately tech companies react to them more than consumers now.

Also I seen someone mentioned here there is no difference on reset and power off for data corruption?

As I understand it, reset isnt a power cycle for the PC components, since cycles make fans fail ahead of time, hdd's fail ahead of time, as well as interrupting data been written from internal hdd/sdd cache, I believe they are safer. You still lose anything in RAM cache, but its not as bad as abruptly cutting the power.

On the no need comments, I last used my reset button on my main PC a month ago, the system ran out of handles, and I couldnt launch explorer windows etc. when this happens you also cannot reboot or shutdown, it just doesnt do anything. Thankfully doesnt happen often to me now days but still does occasionally. On my spare PC which runs Proxmox I was using reset when I had ram stability issues.

 

[Tetras]

Also I seen someone mentioned here there is no difference on reset and power off for data corruption?

As I understand it, reset isnt a power cycle for the PC components, since cycles make fans fail ahead of time, hdd's fail ahead of time, as well as interrupting data been written from internal hdd/sdd cache, I believe they are safer. You still lose anything in RAM cache, but its not as bad as abruptly cutting the power.

I think it might depend if the reset is initiated by the OS, or by the switch. An OS reset with a UEFI board seems to be a kind of soft-off?

 

[chrcoluk]

I think it might depend if the reset is initiated by the OS, or by the switch. An OS reset with a UEFI board seems to be a kind of soft-off?

Yeah maybe, I know my spindles dont power down so its not a full power cycle, but there is of course still the possibility they have their cache's wiped. I would be uneasy not having a reset button though purely on the basis of unneeded power cycles.

 

[AusWolf]

My case has a reset button, but no HDD activity LED. The smallest thing to implement (and more useful than the button, imo), yet here we are with Corsair desperately trying to save $0.05 on each unit. Mad.

 

[silentbogo]

Most cases still do have a reset switch, but there are reasons why some decided to get rid of it.
Firstly, there is no technical need for reset switch anymore. Simply push the power button for 5 sec to turn it off, and then turn it on - same effect as hard reset. Not too much of a hustle for something you realistically need only once in a blue moon. Even on older cases RST switch was small and recessed, not easily-accessible to prevent accidental push, so even when RST was there - most people still prefer doing it with power button (unless you have a writing utensil at hand).

My case has a reset button, but no HDD activity LED.

Now, that's a real bummer... All that RGB, and they still managed to cheap-out on LEDs

 

[qubit]

I've noticed a lot of premium modern cases sold no longer have a reset switch. I think this is a shame. I was messing around with a couple bootable usb applications today (clonezilla, seatools, parted magic) to test drive health and clone operation and it is a major nuisance to lack the reset button. For example, my new O11 Air Mini lacks this button. I purchased a PCI slot mounted power/reset to solve this issue, but I still felt compelled to comment about this shortcoming.

That's annoying as hell. It's bad enough that HP, Dell etc desktops and all laptops don't have a reset switch, but I'll be damned if I'm giving a penny for a case that omits this essential feature. I don't get why they do it, either. Is it to have a "cleaner" look, or some equally pathetic reason, perhaps?

 

[AusWolf]

Now, that's a real bummer... All that RGB, and they still managed to cheap-out on LEDs

Yeah. One of the two LEDs that (would) actually serve a purpose besides aesthetics.

 

[Devon68]

Seems like a stupid thing to get rid of without a public vote or discussion.
BTW the OP could at a poll to this thread and ask to vote if the reset button is still needed in 2021?

 

[Kissamies]

Why NOT include a reset button, I mean, it's not needed very often but I rather have it than not have it.

Now, that's a real bummer... All that RGB, and they still managed to cheap-out on LEDs

I use the power LED as a SSD activity led. The LED stripes on my rig does the power LED's job fine

 

[Deleted member 24505]

My new Lian Li o11D XL has a reset switch, and the ADL board has a option in the bios to use it as a straight to bios button which is useful.

 

[Kissamies]

My new Lian Li o11D XL has a reset switch, and the ADL board has a option in the bios to use it as a straight to bios button which is useful.

Never even realized that such a feature could exist. I mean I've seen boards with straight to bios -button, but to use a case switch for that, that's new to me.

 

[AusWolf]

Why NOT include a reset button, I mean, it's not needed very often but I rather have it than not have it.


I use the power LED as a SSD activity led. The LED stripes on my rig does the power LED's job fine

I would do the same, but my motherboard's RGB doesn't differentiate between sleep and off states. The power led at least blinks when the computer is only sleeping.

 

[Kissamies]

I would do the same, but my motherboard's RGB doesn't differentiate between sleep and off stated. The power led at least blinks when the computer is only sleeping.

For now I have to keep my system on 24/7 as my pump is dying and it doesn't always start immediately. Or it could resonate and sound like a fucking power drill. As it now works, I'm not turning my system off before I have a new pump.

 

[Yraggul666]

Reset switches on pc cases are a VITAL/MISSION CRITICAL part of my existence.
Sometimes buddies come to visit for a whiskey, listen to some music, talk, and, AAAND try my AC:Ody , Witcher 3, Heroes3/4 saved games and such;
well at the exact moment they're completely hyped for a Hunter/Assassin hybrid build obliterating a fort in AC:Ody or an Alchemy/Signs build in Witcher3 and emerged in the game laughing and talking but not paying any attention to what i'm doing, i just get up as if i'm pouring myself another or going for a soda, and press the reset button...
Oh the confusion...oh the their faces...the disbelief they show for a few seconds, and of course i go for a " WHAT THE F happened?!?!?! The F did you do!?" oh those few seconds =))
SO i NEVER COULD/WOULD buy a case that would savagely kidnap that joy from me.
If they abolish reset switches on pc cases tomorrow i'd have to install my own......
Do you hear that pc case manufacturers??? Leave the reset switches ON!

 

[Deleted member 24505]

For now I have to keep my system on 24/7 as my pump is dying and it doesn't always start immediately. Or it could resonate and sound like a fucking power drill. As it now works, I'm not turning my system off before I have a new pump.

Snap. My D5 pump was sometimes taking 3 or 4 seconds to go, few times i had to shut down and restart before it would go, so mine is on 24/7 now. I'll be getting a dist plate in jan with a new D5 on it though. I now have core temp in the background set to shut my PC off at 95c

 

[Kissamies]

Snap. My D5 pump was sometimes taking 3 or 4 seconds to go, few times i had to shut down and restart before it would go, so mine is on 24/7 now. I'll be getting a dist plate in jan with a new D5 on it though.

I have this (sorry, it's in Finnish), bought the whole Alphacool DIY kit from sale few years ago. The same pump-res and rad came with it as in the pic of my rig in the your PC ATM thread. Just using ML120 fans instead of the Alphacool branded bequiets. Anyway, going to get the same one I have from that link I posted.

But yeah, why bother leaving the reset button out, that's a question I've actually wondered with few cases I've had during the years.

 

[Zforgetaboutit]

Isn't there a keyboard shortcut to reset the system? I seem to recall pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL with my latest system (prior to Windows being loaded, I mean).

Sometimes my PC has been so locked up, not even Ctrl-Alt-Del does anything. Solution? The reset button.

 

[droid-I]

I have PC cases with reset button and some not, however since W8 and so on, seen not much so use of reset button. I do agree though
for some systems it is a faster way to get "back on the saddle" if tinkering around with BIOS settings in case W x boot fails. vs. flipping eg. PSU switch if things seem to lock up.

 

[freeagent]

My Reset button is my cmos button, best not to touch it

Reset is the rocker switch at the back of the pc