Microsoft to make Windows 10 updates mandatory

[dorsetknob]

End user does not count your the Sheep to be shorn
The only time You Will Count is when you sign up for the CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT ( its coming)

 

[Liquid Cool]

These forced updates and the 30 day return policy have me waiting to be sure everything is ironed out before I jump on board. Think I'll adopt the '364 day' policy rtwjunkie mentioned.

Perhaps in the meantime an alternative will pop up....

Best,

Liquid Cool

 

[mroofie]

last one very cheesy lol

 

[eidairaman1]

stickin to 7, one Update bunged up IE11 I had to drop to 8 and remove the updates just to fix a problem then put in 10, no issues now lol

 

[Ahhzz]

What about end users, and not businesses?

End user does not count your the Sheep to be shorn
The only time You Will Count is when you sign up for the CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT ( its coming)

Yup, you're the guinea pigs. The notes in a release from them in January this year noted that some business class clients may wish to wait a few months past the "consumer" release in order to ensure that the patches are trouble free. If you're an end-user, you might as well start your stretching exercises now. Reach for those toes.

 

[broken pixel]

MSToolKit works with 10.

 

[R-T-B]

MSToolKit works with 10.

KMS Piracy tool by the looks of it. I'd not advise discussing such things here.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I can already see emense arsing about with beta driver issues.
Nope I don't like it .advisal only though I install most tbh no all the latest.

 

[expunged]

I voted no. I will just find the service that runs it and disable it until I am ready to run them.

 

[MrGenius]

Good luck with that. Let us know how that works out for you.

 

[broken pixel]

KMS Piracy tool by the looks of it. I'd not advise discussing such things here.

I did not post a link, big difference.

Creating an OS image via Windows style is s till broken, y
ay!

 

[R-T-B]

I did not post a link, big difference.

Creating an OS image via Windows style is s till broken, y
ay!

Fair enough.

 

[qubit]

MSToolKit works with 10.

KMS Piracy tool by the looks of it. I'd not advise discussing such things here.

I did not post a link, big difference.

Creating an OS image via Windows style is s till broken, y
ay!

Unfortunately just mentioning such products tends to get posts deleted, as they're very strict about that sort of thing here.

Anyway, I would never trust a product like that as it's almost certain to contain a keylogger and other malware. That's a great reason for going legit right there, let alone upsetting Microsoft. Notice how the instructions on the website tell you to suppress every Windows security feature and anti-malware product to get it installed. I wouldn't trust anything like that. Just steer clear.

 

[SonicZap]

I have two problems with this automatic installation of updates:

1) I don't always want the latest GPU drivers. I prefer running on a driver that has been verified stable by myself, and I only upgrade when it's needed for significant performance fixes / new features. I don't want Windows to automatically update my graphics drivers so I can encounter all of AMD's and Nvidia's new TDRs, broken features and BSODs.

2) I want to control when the updates are installed. There is nothing less annoying than playing a full-screen competitive game (be it CS:GO, League of Legends, etc.) and then dying because of Windows suddenly throwing me to desktop to ask if I want to restart because Windows installed some updates. Seriously, happened multiple times in the past and since then I've always used the "Notify me but don't install automatically" option.

 

[RejZoR]

I can see this forced updating to become a major clusterfuck of driver/update issues. I mean, it's not like drivers or updates have EVER caused any problems...

Drivers on Windows Update were always shit, especially the graphic ones and I've had really stupid problems with monitor drivers as well (it fucked up my entire color profile) and the wireless driver also fucked up my laptop twice. And the Silverlight, I don't install that crap for a reason. I don't need it. So why would I want a potential security concern software on my system if I dont' need it!?

I really don't understand what's Microsoft trying to achieve here. Deliver security updates as mandatory thing, absolutely. But leave drivers and other optional crap out of my fucking way.

 

[R-T-B]

A quick workaround:

You can disable driver updates and only driver updates via the following registry key (it's protected, so you'll have to take ownership).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UpdateHandlers\Driver\LocalOnly

Set that to 1. No more auto driver updates. Combine this with a disabled auto update via gpedit.msc -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components ->Windows Update -> Configure Automatic Updates (set this to disabled) and you get a little more control over what you update, and when.

 

[RejZoR]

But then again I want SOME driver updates to be applied. I know I want the ATK driver for my motherboard because I can't be bothered looking for it manually. But I certainly don't want stupid graphic drivers to be forced on my system even though I always use latest drivers. The ones that come through WIndows Update are simply shit, mainly because they always arrive without control panels and that's like getting a car without a steering wheel...

 

[newconroer]

Microsoft has the same do-no-harm policy as other technology companies. If they deliberately do something to piss users off, their popularity as a software manufacturer will plummet so they don't or fix it if enough complain, as noted.

I also practice a do-no-harm policy at work. Yet if I make a mistake, it could affect a lot of people in a negative way.
JUST like when Microsoft puts out updates that break the usage of their Office product software, then they release another update to fix it, which breaks something else.

I could have avoided that if I'd just not updated at all.

 

[remixedcat]

I was a victim to forced updates on a road trip and I just wanted to power off my laptop before a trip and I had to keep it running and plug into an inverter to keep the updates going and it took 2 hrs to install!!!

Also what if a disaster is happening and you gotta shut off ASAP! Like a hurricane or flood or something?

 

[R-T-B]

A quick workaround:

You can disable driver updates and only driver updates via the following registry key (it's protected, so you'll have to take ownership).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UpdateHandlers\Driver\LocalOnly

Set that to 1. No more auto driver updates. Combine this with a disabled auto update via gpedit.msc -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components ->Windows Update -> Configure Automatic Updates (set this to disabled) and you get a little more control over what you update, and when.

Thanks for all the thanks everyone, but apparently, this no longer works in the RTM build!

EDIT: The driver part. You can still force it to make checks manual...

 

[Ahhzz]

So, it still automatically checks for driver updates?

 

[R-T-B]

So, it still automatically checks for driver updates?

No, but every time you scan it will force you to install them.

There is a updated tweak in the tweak thread that fixes this. Please reference it. You can then never worry about forced driver updates again! It also includes a tweak to load unsigned drivers from earlier versions of Windows. I loaded drivers for hardware acceleration on a Intel 965 Express integrated graphics adapter just a bit ago, which just barely has DirectX 10.0.

 

[Ahhzz]

Just read thru that. thanks

 

[R-T-B]

Just read thru that. thanks

Just remember if the machine isn't a fresh install that has never touched Windows Update (no internet for it), weird things happen. Make sure it's fresh and don't connect the ethernet/wifi until done.

 

[Easo]

Reading all those comments here... It realy seems like you are trying to overblow it, just for the sake of it.
Sorry.