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Hmm. Well if it gives you issues I can understand you wouldn't want it. It has produced no issues with my setup and BC2.

Also, it may be bundled with RivaTuner and must install it, but you can run D3DOverrider without running RivaTuner.

Alas, if you are already having problems with BC2, you could try it and see if it helps? And delete it if not.

There's definitely a D3Doverrider download available on it's own, I use it and it works a treat.

Great thread btw. I guess I shall find out if two HD 5770's crossfired will stutter for me within the next month. I'm very sensitive to frame rate changes/stutter in general, so I'll report back here with my findings.
 

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well i can tell you right now full stock cpu everything with just a fresh install of windows i can make BC2 crash within 5 mins everytime, all it takes is to have MSI afterburner running with Unofficial OC enabled, if i turn off the app no issue turn off Unofficial OC and it will still crash just takes longer, editing the fan profile also causes the crash,

with Sapphire Trixx, fan profile causes issues and so does overclocking but the app can remain running

last i checked Triple Buffering can be used without vsync,

just as frame render ahead can be used without vsync

Open GL allows for Triple Buffering without issue,
Direct X uses render ahead limit instead, the problem is the stuttering from micro stutter isnt fixed with Vsync all the time 4870x2 + Crysis = stutter whore the entire time i had it vsync on or off, back then riva tuner was still viable, and forcing off vsync but keeping triple buffering on, ment smoother and greater frame rates in most games with no input lag from vsync.

capping my frame rate at 60fps is not what i want, if i wanted to cap at 60 id have 1 6970 and use vsync and just stfu and gtfo :roll: i want high frame rates but smooth fluid playback,

Triple Buffering also eliminates tearing so you can go ABOVE the refresh rate but get less to 0 tearing which is what i want, Oblivion, FO3, NV they dont stutter for me but animations seem off higher then 60fps the animations feel smooth less wonky, but the texture tearing is insane, if you force Triple Buffering with Vsync off you can keep the high frame rate but remove the texture tearing, Triple Buffering is more beneficial then just removing microstutter etc

Dunno. Never had any of those issues. Something in your rig is causing them.
 

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yea i just want triple buffering by itself

better higher frame rate
0 tearing etc

basicaly Triple Buffering alone gives you all the benefit of Vsync with no input lag and no frame rate cap it also doesnt have the annoying issue if you do run vsync of the frame rate capping at 30

example run 60fps drop to 58 it cant run 58 so Vsync will drop you to 30fps instead, Triple removes that issue with vsync but by itself It would be far more useful to me.

nothing in the rig is causing it mailman, the difference is i know what to look for, and how to find it when it comes to games.

Multi GPus exacerbate the situation but its still possible to experience and find the issues with single gpus there just far more rare.
 

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Maybe yall got dirty power or something.
 
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There's definitely a D3Doverrider download available on it's own, I use it and it works a treat.

Great thread btw. I guess I shall find out if two HD 5770's crossfired will stutter for me within the next month. I'm very sensitive to frame rate changes/stutter in general, so I'll report back here with my findings.

Haha. Hang on. Don't DL the one on megaupload that is titled D3DOverrider without RivaTuner. This is a test I'm doing trying to separate RivaTuner and D3DOverrider but it does not work as of right now.
 
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well tried your stand alone it dosent launch period i again feel this is something only someone like W1zzard can do right. seems every implementation ive found is an app that dosent work is no longer supported or dosent do what I need it to.
 
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Yup. Scratch my last post. It does work without RivaTuner. Here's a second link so I can steal some thunder form Mars ;)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6NEIYQYL

Maybe try this one crazy. Also. It wont launch the window when you launch the .exe. It will launch a small icon in the taskbar that looks like a yellow X. If you have auto-hide enabled on your taskbar it will hide it. Double click the icon in the taskbar and it will bring up the gui.
 

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yea life on mar's did load anything nothing in taskmanager etc ill give yours a shot

yours works spaceman it loaded the exe that time, and i can say Oblivion plays better now no longer stuck at 60fps and i get little to no Tearing so best of both worlds
 
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Good shit mate. Glad I could help.
 

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I've only ever had one setup where microstuttering was an issue, and indeed annoyed the hell out of me. it was 4870 512mb crossfire, and boy was almost every experience with those cards in tandem a pain...

I was well pleased when I paired my 5870 with a 5850, clocked them equally and had an absolutely amazing gaming experience, absolutely no microstutter, or any real performance 'issues' whatsoever.

I have however used 8600GT's in SLi (way back when) and they did fantastic for themselves, as did my GTX295, no complaints at all there. IMO I know how it's going to sound but I do think Nvidia offer a smoother overall dual card setup, or at least they did till the 5/6000 series.

nowadays I'm punching though life with a mini ITX rig with just a mid-high end single card at any given time, and boy howdy if you can live with the 'lower' performance it sure is the way to go. especially given system requirement stagnation.

FYI I voted: It drives me insane!
 
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I've only ever had one setup where microstuttering was an issue, and indeed annoyed the hell out of me. it was 4870 512mb crossfire, and boy was almost every experience with those cards in tandem a pain...

I was well pleased when I paired my 5870 with a 5850, clocked them equally and had an absolutely amazing gaming experience, absolutely no microstutter, or any real performance 'issues' whatsoever.

I have however used 8600GT's in SLi (way back when) and they did fantastic for themselves, as did my GTX295, no complaints at all there. IMO I know how it's going to sound but I do think Nvidia offer a smoother overall dual card setup, or at least they did till the 5/6000 series.

nowadays I'm punching though life with a mini ITX rig with just a mid-high end single card at any given time, and boy howdy if you can live with the 'lower' performance it sure is the way to go. especially given system requirement stagnation.

FYI I voted: It drives me insane!

of course nvidia was better at dual card back in the day, 3dfx did half the work already for them. Nvidia had less work adopting an old tech to newer hardware. ATI/AMD on the other hand had to build it from scratch.

and the poll options are bs. none state that the rig doesn't experience microstuttering compared to single cards. The review linked even shows that to be true.

it also shows that 3way and 4 way crossfire similarly doesn't show any microstuttering.

this thread is a bs add on to the previous one where that same review was already linked and discussed.
 

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this thread is a bs add on to the previous one where that same review was already linked and discussed.

My thread is no "BS addon", thanks. :rolleyes:

So which thread was that then? Linky please.
 
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I find it bizarre that the standalone D3dOverrider doesn't work for peeps, it works fine on mine? Glad you have a working one now.
 

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I find it bizarre that the standalone D3dOverrider doesn't work for peeps, it works fine on mine? Glad you have a working one now.

its tied into rivatuner. the only reason standalone would work, is if you had the files present in your system already.
 
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its tied into rivatuner. the only reason standalone would work, is if you had the files present in your system already.

I have never installed rivatuner, trust me. :confused: Who knows, either way the other guys have a working copy now so all's good :)
 

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I have never installed rivatuner, trust me. :confused: Who knows, either way the other guys have a workimg copy now so alls good :)

other programs use rivatuners files too, so they could have installed them. i *think* afterburner is one of them.
 
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other programs use rivatuners files too, so they could have installed them. i *think* afterburner is one of them.

Only other GFX software I use is ATI Tray Tools, would that be it?
 

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Only other GFX software I use is ATI Tray Tools, would that be it?

no idea. could be a leftover from a previous program install, etc.
 

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Looking at the poll, it's interesting to see how many people it drives insane.

I picked "very annoying", but if I was subjected to it for a long time, it would drive me insane too.
 

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7th option needed for running sli with no Microstutter :p
 

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Single-GPU Microstutter

I registered with this forum just to reply to this thread of Qubit. Thanks Qubit.
I'll probably start another thread to ask for solutions, and limit my comments here on this thread.

i'm sorry for editing your poll, i never intended to mess it up in any way. i honestly thought you didnt think of this option when creating the poll.

i think the added option is important, it doesn't seem to make the other votes invalid, does it ?

I have a single GPU setup, and I have micro-stuttering. Where is my option?

IMO the last option stops people with single card setups (or people who don't know what micro-stutter is) from voting "Doesn't bother me at all "
If everyone with a single GPU setup voted Doesn't bother me at all, that would really mess the results up.
You've got to account for stupidity :p

Yes the poll should be changed.

I think "microstuttering" is a poorly choiced word here. Subpar performance would be better. ... Anyways, this poll needs a "I don't know what microstuttering is" option for those who do their homework and build systems that suit their needs.

Microstuttering is vague, yes. However, subpar performance is even more vague. May I suggest, "Uneven Frame Output"?

Visual demonstration of 'Uneven Frame Output'
F---F---F---F---F = 5fps (smooth)
F-F-----F-F-----F = 5fps (bad)

Youtube demonstration by wlcina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTfwhcQZphw
 

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That's just awesome. :rockout::rockout:Welcome to TPU. :toast:

Ya know, I wonder if this whole "microstuttering" thing with dual GPUs is BS? By that I don't mean that it doesn't happen, but that it's nothing to do with how many GPUs you have. It's a function of the whole system not being able to keep up with the refresh rate of the monitor.

Every frame takes a different amount of time to render, regardless of how fast your computer is, leading to uneven frame rendering output in time. However, if it's fast enough and locked to vsync, it smooths it out completely, so you get perfect, stutter-free and artefact-free animation. Total bliss.

So yeah, I see it even with my fast GTX 580 at 800x600 if the system overall cannot keep up, for whatever reason.

Finally, it looks like there's some demand for different poll options, so W1zzard, if you wanna add or change any options to make my fellow posters happy, please do. :toast:
 
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