Need For Speed Shift

[Benetanegia]

I should Fraps some 1337 keyboard drivin'. Best of all, it only takes one hand.

Yes please. I have heard of people that do wonders with the keyboard, but I can't. I never gave it enough time anyway, even if you do drive wonderfully, it's not the same experience at all.

 

[Hybrid_theory]

Don't worry, you'll never catch me playing a game with a controler that is not supposed to be used for that genre. I have the G25. No way I would be playing GTR, rFactor or LFS otherwise.

I do like simulators, but I want a game that is a little bit more relaxing, more forgiving, as to say. A game that I don't have to be so concentrated, but whose driving experience isn't as meaningless and hollow (for me) as in previous NFS or Race Driver games.

Ive done 5 races so far with my driving force gt. u want to set in your logitech profiler to 270 degrees.

Then in game all deadzones to 0% and steering sensitivity i set to 50% but that is personal preference. I turned breaking and steering assists off as well as tcs and abs to off. But i left stm to low. so you can tweak these to certainly make it more forgiving,

the only other thing ive been reading is performance. And people have been going to near low settings even with a dual core and 4870 card.

Ill admit max was occasionally choppy for me with a 4870x2 at 1920x1200.

 

[Benetanegia]

the only other thing ive been reading is performance. And people have been going to near low settings even with a dual core and 4870 card.

Ill admit max was occasionally choppy for me with a 4870x2 at 1920x1200.

That could be a problem, unless I feel encouraged to assemble all my gear, with a DLP I have and an special mount I did for the G25 (have to recover it from the attic though). Reason is the DLP is just 1280x720 or 1280x1024 so it wouldn't pose a problem performance wise.

But that kind of contrasts with my desire of using that game as a relaxing tool, doesn't it? Decisions, decisions...

 

[Hybrid_theory]

That could be a problem, unless I feel encouraged to assemble all my gear, with a DLP I have and an special mount I did for the G25 (have to recover it from the attic though). Reason is the DLP is just 1280x720 or 1280x1024 so it wouldn't pose a problem performance wise.

But that kind of contrasts with my desire of using that game as a relaxing tool, doesn't it? Decisions, decisions...

system specs?

games are meant to be relaxing. but think about how frustrated youve been with them in the past

i can think of many games and occasions.

 

[kurosagi01]

Keyboard, like I always have.


As far as I can tell, cars don't change tiers. If you buy a tier 1 car and buy all the upgrades for it, it will remain a tier 1 car (unlike NFS games since Underground).

so a tier 1 or 2 cars when maxed out performance won't be able to race against tier 4s performance?? that kind of sucks since most teir 4 are all supercars and i think lot of people would prefer driving their favourate cars which you drive in modern lives against supercars like in NFS most-wanted
I'm bored of only be able to drive super-cars at the end since their all tier 4

 

[1Kurgan1]

hot persuit 2 best nfs game imo.

I gotta say Hot Pursuit for PS1. I liked that "slower cars" were still able, I loved the Vette and trounched my cousins and their Lambo's on a daily basis with it, then the cops, they were hilarious and the Arnold voice cheat was great.

 

[3870x2]

Keyboard, like I always have.


As far as I can tell, cars don't change tiers. If you buy a tier 1 car and buy all the upgrades for it, it will remain a tier 1 car (unlike NFS games since Underground).

keyboard? get something that is pressure sensitive, I love the game and its mechanics.

And yes, an M3 GTR will burn out in 3rd gear at a rolling start, pretty much anything above 350 HP will. I say give the game another try with XBoX 360 controller for Windows.

 

[3870x2]

Ive done 5 races so far with my driving force gt. u want to set in your logitech profiler to 270 degrees.

Then in game all deadzones to 0% and steering sensitivity i set to 50% but that is personal preference. I turned breaking and steering assists off as well as tcs and abs to off. But i left stm to low. so you can tweak these to certainly make it more forgiving,

the only other thing ive been reading is performance. And people have been going to near low settings even with a dual core and 4870 card.

Ill admit max was occasionally choppy for me with a 4870x2 at 1920x1200.

odd, my 4870 kills at 1920x1200 4xAA, 16xAF.

 

[HookeyStreet]

so a tier 1 or 2 cars when maxed out performance won't be able to race against tier 4s performance?? that kind of sucks since most teir 4 are all supercars and i think lot of people would prefer driving their favourate cars which you drive in modern lives against supercars like in NFS most-wanted
I'm bored of only be able to drive super-cars at the end since their all tier 4

Actually in some races, yes In the Tier 4 events you get an event called 'Works Vs Supercars'. I cant wait to race my 'Works' upgraded Tier 2 Lotus Elise against a Veyron (I will probably get smoked lol)

I was a bit naughty and paid 260 MS points for a Pagani Zonda-F My m8 was gutted when I rolled up in it and wiped the floor with his GT-R

 

[3870x2]

I just got this game last night, is it games for windows live? and how is the online?

 

[Hybrid_theory]

odd, my 4870 kills at 1920x1200 4xAA, 16xAF.

i was at 8xaa went down to 4 went to 8xaf. and lowered shadows and textures to medium. my fsb is 1423 right now. cant get it any higher

 

[Benetanegia]

so a tier 1 or 2 cars when maxed out performance won't be able to race against tier 4s performance?? that kind of sucks since most teir 4 are all supercars and i think lot of people would prefer driving their favourate cars which you drive in modern lives against supercars like in NFS most-wanted
I'm bored of only be able to drive super-cars at the end since their all tier 4

I actually like the fact that cars don't change tier. IMO it was stupid that (i.e.) a Civic was as fast as the supercars when all of them were fully upgraded. You could make it through the games with your starting car too, there was no need to change it. No matter how much you like your Civic, Golf GTi or Clio, it will never have a chance against a tunned supercar.

 

[OnBoard]

the only other thing ive been reading is performance. And people have been going to near low settings even with a dual core and 4870 card.

Ill admit max was occasionally choppy for me with a 4870x2 at 1920x1200.

In our version of the game Nvidia's Geforce cards were running without problems, but AMD's Radeons were noticeably slower that usually. AMD is already aware of the problem and is working on optimizations for Shift.

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,...engine-info-and-Full-HD-screenshots/Practice/

 

[MRCL]

I gotta say Hot Pursuit for PS1. I liked that "slower cars" were still able, I loved the Vette and trounched my cousins and their Lambo's on a daily basis with it, then the cops, they were hilarious and the Arnold voice cheat was great.

Agreed. Its from 1998, but I still play it today. Its the most fun NFS ever. Most Wanted is cool, but NFSHP is just better. Black Diablo SV, last Knockout Race in Empire City, man the first time I drove that track I was so pushed! I should finally get around and play the Tournament and Knockouts on hard mode... soem tracks are really hard if they are mirrored, at night and with snow.

 

[kurosagi01]

I actually like the fact that cars don't change tier. IMO it was stupid that (i.e.) a Civic was as fast as the supercars when all of them were fully upgraded. You could make it through the games with your starting car too, there was no need to change it. No matter how much you like your Civic, Golf GTi or Clio, it will never have a chance against a tunned supercar.

yeah you could but you have to be really good at it to do that

 

[Benetanegia]

yeah you could but you have to be really good at it to do that

Yeah, maybe. Let's say:

the very first car = difficult
second car = easy already

 

[1Kurgan1]

I actually like the fact that cars don't change tier. IMO it was stupid that (i.e.) a Civic was as fast as the supercars when all of them were fully upgraded. You could make it through the games with your starting car too, there was no need to change it. No matter how much you like your Civic, Golf GTi or Clio, it will never have a chance against a tunned supercar.

I haven't played this game yet so I'm not sure what cars are what tiers, but I agree on a certain level. A civic isn't ever goign to compete with a super car. To put out 500whp in one is flat out insanely hard, and when done that car will be a straight line performer.

I'm not sure what tier they would place the Camaro in or a Corvette, but I'm assuming not with super cars. These are the cars that have the aftermarket depth and the good building blocks to hang with any of the super cars and should be able to jump tiers.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Yes please. I have heard of people that do wonders with the keyboard, but I can't. I never gave it enough time anyway, even if you do drive wonderfully, it's not the same experience at all.

Well, I did a race and I was going to record the replay but Fraps didn't catch it. I can't record while driving because the FPS takes too large of a penalty. Maybe I'll try again later.

I'm not sure what tier they would place the Camaro in or a Corvette, but I'm assuming not with super cars. These are the cars that have the aftermarket depth and the good building blocks to hang with any of the super cars and should be able to jump tiers.

I think Camero is Tier 2 and Corvette is Tier 3.

 

[1Kurgan1]

That must mean there is no ZR-1 or no Z06 once again

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I am not having any fun playing NFS Shift. It is very likely I won't ever finish it--a first for a NFS game.

 

[Benetanegia]

I am not having any fun playing NFS Shift. It is very likely I won't ever finish it--a first for a NFS game.

Elaborate please.

 

[Hybrid_theory]

I am not having any fun playing NFS Shift. It is very likely I won't ever finish it--a first for a NFS game.

Im loving it so far. IGN did make a good point: money is very easy to come by. Which is really only good for car collecting.

 

[mikek75]

Have you managed to find a setup for your G25 that works?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Elaborate please.

Let's just say there's really nothing new that's good. I'd rather play ProStreet. There's really only three differences between the two anyway:

1) aggression/precision: it is really quite pointless because aggression basically means you aren't in first while precision means you are. Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights does a much better job here with Driver DNA.

2) Handling is just plain stupid. It reminds me of playing Nevada speedrun in ProStreet with an X800 XL--you don't have to try to crash, the crash will come to you.

3) The announcer is gone. I liked the announcer.


The problem that plagues them both is performance. Both games are highly unoptimized requiring good hardware just to get framerates smooth enough to make the game playable. Frame rates only became a problem occasionally on Prostreet but it is ever present on Shift.

A subset of that point is load times are very long in shift. There is also no way to do a practice run on a map before going into competition.


Edit: The more I play it, the more I hate it.

 

[Wile E]

so a tier 1 or 2 cars when maxed out performance won't be able to race against tier 4s performance?? that kind of sucks since most teir 4 are all supercars and i think lot of people would prefer driving their favourate cars which you drive in modern lives against supercars like in NFS most-wanted
I'm bored of only be able to drive super-cars at the end since their all tier 4

I agree. I want it to be like Underground 2 for power modding capabilities. I should be able to take a lowly Ford Focus, and make it a Supercar eating track machine if that's what I wanted.

I actually like the fact that cars don't change tier. IMO it was stupid that (i.e.) a Civic was as fast as the supercars when all of them were fully upgraded. You could make it through the games with your starting car too, there was no need to change it. No matter how much you like your Civic, Golf GTi or Clio, it will never have a chance against a tunned supercar.

Wrong. There are plaenty of examples, even irl, that show a tuned entry level car is a match for a tuned supercar. You end up spending just as much on the tier one car to make it as fast as the tuned supercar, but that doesn't mean it's not doable.

I hate the fact that I have to change a car, even if I don't want to. A big enough budget makes any car fast. I'd rather just keep working with what I have than to start again on a different platform.

I haven't played this game yet so I'm not sure what cars are what tiers, but I agree on a certain level. A civic isn't ever goign to compete with a super car. To put out 500whp in one is flat out insanely hard, and when done that car will be a straight line performer.

I'm not sure what tier they would place the Camaro in or a Corvette, but I'm assuming not with super cars. These are the cars that have the aftermarket depth and the good building blocks to hang with any of the super cars and should be able to jump tiers.

Put the engine in the back of the Civic and you now have a solid platform for handling. (btw, 500HP is not hard from a civic. There are B16 powered Civics Cranking out over 750HP, and that's just from 1.6L. Take that up to 2l or more, and the power continues to climb).

No, any car has the ability to jump to the highest tier, given the proper budget. It wouldn't cost you any more money to make a Civic as fast as a Veyron, than it would to buy a Veyron. It would be a hell of a lot more work, and more time consuming tho. lol.