Editorial NVIDIA RTX Video Super Resolution Tested, AI Enhanced Streaming That Barely Makes a Difference

ThrashZone · Feb 28, 2023

Hi,
Wait isn't this feature only for people subscribing to youtube premium oops :slap:

Vayra86 · Feb 28, 2023

Selaya said:
what a bunch of snake oil.

My first impression too.

So we can exchange blurry shit for slighty more refined blurry shit, but with AI.

Yay!

deathlessdd said:
Everything looks the same when enabled what a bunch of lies, all this talk about making low quality videos look better is all fake

Garbage in = garbage out.

These principles hold true and Nvidia is trying to test them by abusing the hype term 'AI' - now suddenly there is a new paradigm, because we are using new words

Good luck, I say, but so far... DLSS really never needed AI either, dear friends, as evident by FSR. They're just doing some extra mapping based on a high contrast image. All we have here is yet another overpromised upscale tech. And a free cheering headline for the trouble.

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Wait isn't this feature only for people subscribing to youtube premium oops

Only for the first 12 months, after that you need to sign off organs so Huang can enter cryostasis at some point.

Vya Domus · Feb 28, 2023

This is a lot less impressive than what they originally showed.

Icy1007 · Feb 28, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah sounds just like switching monitor/ tv settings from standard to vivid

It’s nothing like that. Lol

I’m convinced people here claiming it doesn’t look different don’t know how to actually use it.

Vya Domus · Feb 28, 2023

Icy1007 said:
It’s nothing like that. Lol

I’m convinced people here claiming it doesn’t look different don’t know how to actually use it.

There are screenshots in the OP, you don't have to know anything, you can just look at them and you can't tell me the difference is particularly noticeable.

Zareek · Feb 28, 2023

I'm not sure, I'll need to test it myself, the stills are not impressive. The demo video is noticeably better. So is it a fringe case, or did Ngreedia actually come up with something valuable?

Update, yeah it is a nice addition. Low resolution videos look better but selling a sharpening and de-noise filter as AI is a bit much.

dgianstefani · Feb 28, 2023

Way I see it, it's a zero effort (after initial setup, which takes a minute or so) way to get slightly better IQ, scaling less as you go up in source resolution, with a basically negligible draw on system resources. There's no fiddling or anything, you just turn it on and benefit. Kind of like HAGS or rebar, minor gains when there are some, but almost exclusively positive. RTX Voice or the AI software that keeps your eyes looking at the camera is more impressive.

The reconstructed image at 720p and below isn't perfect, but it's artefact free, unlike the source video at that resolution, and while the smoothing is noticeable, it's better than having pixelated boxes everywhere and obvious low resolution.

You won't typically notice a difference if you watch 1440p/4K content, but not everything on the internet is uploaded in high resolution. Something I looked hard for was the image reconstruction adding details that weren't there in the original image, and I couldn't find any, so I can't see people making the argument - it's inaccurate.

ThrashZone · Feb 28, 2023

Hi,
I have two obstetrical involved here
One I'm not using chrome or edge for any reason
Two I don't frequent youtube
So great if someone finds use in this feature or google or nvidia or bing AI in general I'll pass.

dgianstefani · Feb 28, 2023

The feature works on all streamed video content, not just YouTube.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Feb 28, 2023

dgianstefani said:
Has been revised. I had a different title in mind initially but changed it to amazing after feedback and suggestions leading to minor revisions prior to publishing. Editorial staff agrees amazing is a little strong.

I do think this has quite the capacity for development, as we've seen from other AI upscaling technologies. This initial release is in no means a regression in quality anywhere from native, but has several, if minor, improvements. So it's a net positive.

I checked my task manager GPU usage, and it went from 9% playing the video at native to 10% with VSR at "4", so it's hardly a cost in terms of resources either.

Possibly, with a bit of hype, 3 evolutions and only if you buy the 6th generation of RTX in all likelihood.

Or just choose a better video source like I'll be doing.

ThrashZone · Feb 28, 2023

dgianstefani said:
The feature works on all streamed video content, not just YouTube.

Hi,
Doubt "all" seeing the source is always going to differ in quality....
Best Free sites to so called "stream" are not exactly on board to say the least

TheDeeGee · Feb 28, 2023

Not worth the powerdraw.

dgianstefani · Feb 28, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Doubt "all" seeing the source is always going to differ in quality....
Best Free sites to so called "stream" are not exactly on board to say the least

Yeah well get a RTX card to try it out, or take my word and the documentation from the company who made it.

It works on all content within it's spec - 360p to 1440p.

GreiverBlade · Feb 28, 2023

i mentioned in the previous post about that ... but Opera (GX) has RGX, and enabling/disabling it has, imho, a way more visible impact than VSR seems to have (although RGX is only sharpening :laugh:

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Opera GX launches new ‘RGX Mode,’ a free video and image sharpening technology that enhances the browsing experience

Opera GX launches RGX, a content enhancing feature that will sharpen your video and image quality.

press.opera.com

launched 15-16 dec 2022 (also it's hardware agnostic )

tommesfps · Feb 28, 2023

In most cases it was not the pixels making the video "high quality" but the content. But I guess thats the next target for AI.

Today my mashine learned a new way to upscale the resolution of a video, me was able to learn that my GPU used about 150Watts more power for that (30W no upscale/180W upscaled).

I noticed something regarding the visual quality, ok. But I guess I need another GPU to play games, because my GPU was occupied with upscaling.

Not sure about this...

Ware · Feb 28, 2023

It definitely works.
The screenshots in the article are almost worthless for demonstration.
It's no miracle, but it does about what I expected.
These pics are 360 video scaled to 1440.

Some people had unrealistic expactations, and some just complain about everything.

claster17 · Feb 28, 2023

The effect is quite impressive on Twitch because of the large amount of compression artifacts. Also impressive is the power consumption at 200W instead of 30W.

Metroid · Feb 28, 2023

Using an rtx gpu for such task is a waste, I tried myself on my RTX 3080 and seeing such a waste, I turned it off. Want a better image? get a better internet connection and a 4k monitor and set videos on the internet at 4k.

ThumbWarriorDX · Feb 28, 2023

Since I've had this running for the past hour I've noticed one glaring issue: The scaling sucks.

But on the other hand VSR is doing god-tier deblocking, which is gonna do some serious work on ANY youtube-bitrate video 240p through 1080p.
But uhh, for pure scaling you can run AMD FSR through Magpie on a video and the scaler is dramatically sharper than anything VSR is doing.

So this is good, but they sold this as something that it very much isn't at the moment.

mechtech · Feb 28, 2023

waiting for 320p to 2160p upscaler

ThrashZone · Feb 28, 2023

dgianstefani said:
Yeah well get a RTX card to try it out, or take my word and the documentation from the company who made it.

It works on all content within it's spec - 360p to 1440p.

Hi,
Nice title edit man thinking this is what I'll stick with :cool:

NVIDIA RTX Video Super Resolution Tested, AI Enhanced Streaming That Barely Makes a Difference

LabRat 891 · Feb 28, 2023

This is extraordinarily unimpressive, being a supposedly "'RTX, AI-core' Accelerated" feature.
IMHO, nVidia should've kept this as an unmentioned feature at the bottom of a changelog. I perceive this as making "RTX technology" look like a farce. (I've seen 10-15 year old set-top-boxes that can do upscaling better)
Hopefully this isn't actually RTX-accelerated; If I were an investor, I might be concerned about how bad this makes 'RTX' look.

"RTX Voice" was a much more notable improvement (as a user-experience), but was proven to be completely hardware agnostic, and not RTX-accelerated.

TheDeeGee · Feb 28, 2023

I'd rather see them work on the ability to force anti-aliasing in DX11 titles. Heck even TAA in old DX9 titles would be cool.

Even DSR (2.25x) can't fix the shitty anti-aliasing in Black Mesa (currently playing) for example.

kilo · Feb 28, 2023

Nvidia forget to support Turing intentionally? The support life of that gen has been embarrassingly bad.

regs · Feb 28, 2023

480p? It can't do magic. It's not intended for that ultra low resolution. It's more intended to watch 1080p on 4K screen.

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