? PCI-E 2.0x16 ?

[krammuel]

OK I know the title is confusing, but so am I.

Here is my problem/question:
I have the ECS GF8200A motherboard and the interface for the PCI-E is supposed to be 2.0x16. But in all of my System info and with GPU-Z it shows it @ 1.1x16. Is this a problem with a driver or is it BIOS?

If it is a Driver? then which driver controls that (ie. in Device Manager)?
If it is BIOS? then how the hell can I get BIOS to flash if when I run the flashing program and it doesn't reconize the driver for that? I have flashed BIOS before with no problems.

Any suggestions or help with this would be appreciated.
Thank You

 

[erocker]

Run a 3d program and check GPU-Z again.

 

[arnoo1]

It's a pretty old board that doesnot support PCI-e 2.0
U have to upgrade it to get the best performans from te card,
I had the same issue with a 570a board

 

[krammuel]

erocker
Run a 3d program and check GPU-Z again.
I did and still saying 1.1. also GPU-Z has a 3d test for the graphics card to force it into the max interface.

It's a pretty old board that doesnot support PCI-e 2.0
U have to upgrade it to get the best performans from te card,
I had the same issue with a 570a board

Yes it is old, but it does support 2.0

Here it is from the manual:
The NVIDIA® GeForce8200 is a single-chip with proven reliability and performance.
• HyperTransport 3.0 x16 up and down links to the AMD socket AM2+/
AM2 CPU
• PCI Express 16-lane link interface for external graphics processors
• PCI Express Generation 2.0 compatible
• Integrated NVIDIA GeForce® Series DirectX 10 Vertex Shader 4.0 graphics
processor
• Compliant with PCI v2.3 interface at 33 MHz
• Integrated SATA 3.0 Gb/s Host Controller
• Twelve USB 2.0 ports supported
• Fast ATA-133 IDE controller
• NVIDIA® MediaShieldTM RAID with support for RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1,
RAID 5, and JBOD
• NVIDIA® PureVideo® HD video supported
• Integrated Hybrid SLI technology, NVIDIA® UltraShadowTM technology,
full NVIDIA® nView® multi-display technology capability

I knew that it could do 2.0 when I bought it.

 

[erocker]

It is PCI-E 2.0 compatible, meaning it can use PCI-E 2.0 graphics cards, but it still works at PCI-E 1.1.

 

[krammuel]

It is PCI-E 2.0 compatible, meaning it can use PCI-E 2.0 graphics cards, but it still works at PCI-E 1.1.

ok thats what I needed to know.
Thank You

 

[Crap Daddy]

ok thats what I needed to know.
Thank You

No big deal. 1.1x16 is like 2.0x8. You will not feel the difference.

 

[newtekie1]

It is probably power savings downgrading the slot to 1.1. Click the ? next to the reading in GPUz and press the "Start Render Test" button and you should see it change from 1.1 to 2.0.

It is PCI-E 2.0 compatible, meaning it can use PCI-E 2.0 graphics cards, but it still works at PCI-E 1.1.

Actually, according to the ECS site, his board does have a PCI-e 2.0 slot.

 

[erocker]

Yep, you're correct. I just went by the specs that krammuel posted.

 

[xBruce88x]

@OP.. what gpu do you have in the slot?

 

[Aquinus]

@OP.. what gpu do you have in the slot?

I would like to know this as well. It very well could be the card, not the slot that is reversing to 1.1.

 

[krammuel]

It is probably power savings downgrading the slot to 1.1. Click the ? next to the reading in GPUz and press the "Start Render Test" button and you should see it change from 1.1 to 2.0.



Actually, according to the ECS site, his board does have a PCI-e 2.0 slot.

Well I had a HD4870 in the slot and it showed me at 1.1 (but can't remember if always this way). That card crapped out after 4 good yrs and replaced with Gygabyte 7770 (it actually can do 3.0x16, but wasn't expecting that).

And I did that with GPU-Z and it didn't change it.

Thanks for the replies and suggestions.

PS: Thats what I thought it said on the box and is why I went with this MB, also because of the price as I am not rich lol

 

[krammuel]

To note:

I believe it is a driver. Why?
Because Win7 doesn't like me to stop it from installing what it thinks is the best driver for my comp. So whenever I would try to install a driver made for my MB, GC, etc. Windows would change it to the generic or microsoft driver. I have downloaded the drivers for everything from ecs or the manufacture and tried to install them. In my Device Manager it shows Generic/Microsoft drivers for the PCI-PCI interface. Are those the drivers that should control the PCI-E slot?

 

[OneMoar]

To note:

I believe it is a driver. Why?
Because Win7 doesn't like me to stop it from installing what it thinks is the best driver for my comp. So whenever I would try to install a driver made for my MB, GC, etc. Windows would change it to the generic or Microsoft driver. I have downloaded the drivers for everything from ecs or the manufacture and tried to install them. In my Device Manager it shows Generic/Microsoft drivers for the PCI-PCI interface. Are those the drivers that should control the PCI-E slot?

Old board is old
there is a reason Nvidia does not make chip-sets anymore driver has nothing todo with and
PCI has nothing todo with PCIe
Bottom line is if you want Pcie 2.0 then you need to upgrade to a newer motherboard with a newer chip-set

 

[newtekie1]

Old board is old
there is a reason Nvidia does not make chip-sets anymore driver has nothing todo with and
PCI has nothing todo with PCIe
Bottom line is if you want Pcie 2.0 then you need to upgrade to a newer motherboard with a newer chip-set

We've already discussed this, the board has a PCIe x16 2.0 slot, the chipset supports PCIe 2.0.

 

[krammuel]

Old board is old
there is a reason Nvidia does not make chip-sets anymore driver has nothing todo with and
PCI has nothing todo with PCIe
Bottom line is if you want Pcie 2.0 then you need to upgrade to a newer motherboard with a newer chip-set

Well there was never a driver that said PCIe. So I assume they are the generics for those drivers.

 

[krammuel]

We've already discussed this, the board has a PCIe x16 2.0 slot, the chipset supports PCIe 2.0.

Do you know if the driver would have anything to do with it? Since everyone else is saying my MoBo doesn't have 2.0,

 

[newtekie1]

Not likely, the driver doesn't really affect PCI-E speed.

 

[Aquinus]

I have a Phenom II on a nForce chipset board and I could force GEN1 or GEN2 PCI-E and even now on my Intel X79 chipset board I also get an option for GEN1, 2, or 3. Is it possible that the BIOS is forcing it to run in 1.1?

 

[krammuel]

I have a Phenom II on a nForce chipset board and I could force GEN1 or GEN2 PCI-E and even now on my Intel X79 chipset board I also get an option for GEN1, 2, or 3. Is it possible that the BIOS is forcing it to run in 1.1?

hmmmm.....
So where in bios would that be? Is it a voltage setting? I can't think of anything in my bios that says Gen1 or Gen2 or Gen anything or even anything that refers to PCIe. Just the GPU to use: "Onboard", "PCI", or "Both". And I do have the most recent bios installed, or could that be it? (ECS had a problem with the 2.0 interface that they left it out on the more recent versions of bios). Not that I read anything on their site saying they had to do that.

 

[krammuel]

Well I decided to look in my bios closely and only thing I found was something called "PCI Spread Spectrum" (may have spelled that wrong). I disabled it, but no change
Also, like to add when I said the options I have for GPU to use was a bit wrong, too. The options are "Onboard", "PCI" or "PCI Express" (but ofcourse was set to PCI Exspress).

Thanks again for the info, and for any futher info anyone has.

 

[krammuel]

Old board is old
there is a reason Nvidia does not make chip-sets anymore driver has nothing todo with and
PCI has nothing todo with PCIe
Bottom line is if you want Pcie 2.0 then you need to upgrade to a newer motherboard with a newer chip-set

And I am not trying to make you think I don't want to replace it, but because of money that won't happen for some time still
Being that is the heart of the computer I have to change almost everything and I want to build another anyways. Just can't atm.

 

[Pehla]

try some older driver!!! i had similar isue..,and new dirvers didnt even work....i instaled one witch came witm graphic card and it works fine !!

 

[INSTG8R]

Which BIOS are you running on it? Just looking thru the BIOS's the 2nd most recent one had this:

Release Reason:
1.update NVMM to improve PCIE vga card Compatibility

Now of course updating to the latest would/should still have that fix.

LINK

 

[Durvelle27]

all pcie 3.0 cards will run at 1.1 x16 in a 2.0 x16 slot ?

Edit: some scaling benches

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/6.html