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Whatever they have, i'll end up upgrading to the model with the highest turbo - final core count matters a bit less.

Then my 2700x can end up in my ITX machine
 
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the 2700x is like warp factor 7 for image processing, I carnt imagen what 16 cores would be like. ill deff be having one of zen 9s at some point. charl
 
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The 3700X looks like the best choice. Nice Specs.,
Found this also.


Threadripper 2950X on 12nm can reach 4.4 Ghz by default... I don't see why 7nm can't do 4.7 or higher.

I personally don't doubt the frequency that could be reached with Zen2, but the core counts... well, still unsure, seems TOO GOOD to be true.
But then, the market has stagnated for too long, it's really the time to see something like this !
The Core Count is to stick it to Intel as much as possible. This is AMD's advantage at the moment, and they must capitalize on it. The Speed increase is due to the 7nm process by TSMC. Should be more efficient over GlobFo. IMO
 

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Still can't imagine why do I would need 16 cores. IMHO, 12 is almost that average PC user may need within next few years.

Dont make assumptions.

There are power users in the Main Desktop arena that dont necessarily want to pay for HEDT from Intel or AMD.
 
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Dont make assumptions.

There are power users in the Main Desktop arena that dont necessarily want to pay for HEDT from Intel or AMD.

It's really AMD redefining what Main Desktop & HEDT are. :rockout:

Running applications in VMs, or Hyper-V for Window users, has never been easier to do. With growing ease, I'd say more mainstream users will also be gradually adopting the practice as it really is best practice & safer.
 

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It's really AMD redefining what Main Desktop & HEDT are. :rockout:

Running applications in VMs, or Hyper-V for Window users, has never been easier to do. With growing ease, I'd say more mainstream users will also be gradually adopting the practice as it really is best practice & safer.

As long as you can find a hardware emulation layer because programs that only run in xp but not in 10 would be out of luck- Games...
 
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Will internal latency be an issue with the chiplet design?
I'm curious to see. I think they ought to design cpus in a way that improves previous designs so I hope it not only doesn't make ryzen's latency issues worse but actually has some improvement.
 
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The 3700X looks like the best choice. Nice Specs.,
Found this also.



The Core Count is to stick it to Intel as much as possible. This is AMD's advantage at the moment, and they must capitalize on it. The Speed increase is due to the 7nm process by TSMC. Should be more efficient over GlobFo. IMO

Yeah that looks like fake to me. Too easy to forge a picture for a forum post
 
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Whose to say your 2700x won't last 5 years ? Video game requirements have been stagnant the last 2-3 years and it will probably be at least 2 years before we see new consoles/game engines.

Even when the new game engines come out it will take a a year or two for them to get polished + your CPU will still easily be faster than whatever CPU is in the next gen consoles.

CPU demand/importance is extremely overrated. People where worried that the ivybridge/sandybridge would be only decent since they came out inbetween console generation and look at them now, 8 years later and they can still play games on very high settings.......

I don't want to upgrade for the core count alone, more for the clockrate and IPC uplift. 2700X has an average of 10% deficit against competing Intel CPU in gaming, the rumored 5ghz boost clock of 3700x alone is over that 10%, in addition of the supposed IPC gains, it will be a chip as capable as Intel and twice the cores.
 
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You trolls saying it is fake is hilarious, I mean, how can they fake those leaks everywhere, there have been leaks in many places and all seems the same thing over and over and yet some of you trolls say is fake, there is a limit to doubt something and you trolls are underestimating AMD.
 
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OMG OMG OMG 128C64000T RyZen9999 leaked on Gigabyte forusm! So real! If you dont reply "I believe" then you are and AMD hater and deserve to die.




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^ That 1TB of MB of L3 cache is going to make it an Intel Killer for sure.
 
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If these leaks are true, I will replace my Ryzen 1600 with the 3700 for double the power and replace the old FX system with my gen 1 Ryzen.
 
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If these leaks are true, I will replace my Ryzen 1600 with the 3700 for double the power and replace the old FX system with my gen 1 Ryzen.
Exactly, agreed.

Several sites are reporting these new Ryzen CPUs. Only time will tell, but knowing AMd, this type of publicity is a given and a good thing.
 
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OMG OMG OMG 128C64000T RyZen9999 leaked on Gigabyte forusm! So real! If you dont reply "I believe" then you are and AMD hater and deserve to die.




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Says the guy throwing neg around again , ah well there has to be the opposing view.
 

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You trolls saying it is fake is hilarious, I mean, how can they fake those leaks everywhere, there have been leaks in many places and all seems the same thing over and over and yet some of you trolls say is fake, there is a limit to doubt something and you trolls are underestimating AMD.

It's all the same leak or fake information depending on opinion from the same guys excel doc that got put up. I mean I can repackage it if you want to claim more people said it.
 
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It's all the same leak or fake information depending on opinion from the same guys excel doc that got put up. I mean I can repackage it if you want to claim more people said it.

The excel thing was from a different guy as far as I know.
 

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Nope same info in multiple "leaks"
You should be above such missquotes, yes the data is the same but no the source is allegedly different, allegedly remember, so not fact but not one guy getting hyped on excel.
 
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Just remember, everyone was hyped over bulldozer, best to keep expectations in check until product is available for sale and has been reviewed and benchmarked.
 
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Bulldozer was completely unknown technology, compare with Zen 1. While Zen 2 might not live up to the hype, I don't expect it to be lower performing than Zen +.
Intel made that mistake with Pentium 4, making a CPU slower than the one before it (Pentium 3), hoping the frequencies will go up so much that it will get faster ( It did, but just barely ).
AMD made the mistake with Bulldozer, creating a CPU which was slower than Phenom before it, but hoping that multicore will really take off. Unfortunately, it didn't.

I doubt any of these companies will make that mistake again.

Any CPU coming from both Intel and AMD in the next several years will very likely have single thread performance at least "a bit" higher than the previous gen, and on the side upping the core count as much as they can within the limits of technology.

Ryzen+ (2000 series) are really REALLY close in IPC to Skylake/Coffee lake/Coffee lake+, within the margin of error, and are actually FASTER when SMT is involved (Ryzen has an extra ALU that can be utilized by two threads through the same core), assuming the code permits it.
What it lacks is frequency...

IF they can close the gap in frequency and add only a itsy-bitsy tiny IPC, even 3% will do, the CPUs will be at least equal in single-threaded performance.
And since AMD seems much more capable to bring more cores ( TR 2990W proves it), they can really roflstomp over anything Intel has on the market right now.

The question is, how many more cores? As I wrote before, I would be extremely pleased if their top of the line has only 12 cores. If it's 16 that's... sexy geeky wet dreams already.
 
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