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#26
What issues? Maybe I can try to replicate, and of course, I can get in touch with ASRock and maybe get 'em fixed. 3200 is rock stable, 3600 only with bus OC right now. Just about to flash BIOS though, see if that gives me more mem multis. I got sticks rated all the way up to 3866 MHz to try.

Haven't got ASUS AMD boards yet, but that's because I have huge backlog of Z270 reviews; they sent me 5 boards all at once (3 ROG, 2 STRIX, never mind boards from ASRock, MSI and Biostar). :p
I want to say it was all settings being set in the BIOS and not actually setting, plus the normal dumb issues I was having (semi-similar to Asus's board). Mind you I really didn't play with it more than an hour that board wasn't for me was a custom build that was already paid for and I quite honestly didn't want to kill it :roll:
 

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#27
I want to say it was all settings being set in the BIOS and not actually setting, plus the normal dumb issues I was having (semi-similar to Asus's board). Mind you I really didn't play with it more than an hour that board wasn't for me was a custom build that was already paid for and I quite honestly didn't want to kill it :roll:
OK, yeah, I did check that since it is a commonly reported issue, but is not present for me. Might be BIOS-version-related.
 
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#28
Loving this!!

It's real people giving the answers we want!!
 
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#29
Ah. I'll have to pull out my adapter and try that, but you'd think it'd work fine
Man, i would really appreciate that :D
I'm not being lazy, i'd just prefer to avoid buying a mounting platform only to learn it's a no go either way.

As to the 'you'd think it'd work fine', not so sure. Depends on the mobo's chip, doesn't it? Speaking of which, which AsRock are you currently using? Would like to go have a look at its specs, see if it states 2.0 x4 or 3.0 x4 support for NVMes.
 

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#31
Wait.. read this, your mobo, under Specification -> Storage:
- 1 x M.2 Socket (M2_2), supports M Key type 2230/2242/2260/2280 M.2 PCI Express module up to Gen2 x4 (20 Gb/s)*

This is exactly what the one i'm looking at states too (Gigabyte K7 or something, their current top tier).
 

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#32
Wait.. read this, your mobo:
- 1 x M.2 Socket (M2_2), supports M Key type 2230/2242/2260/2280 M.2 PCI Express module up to Gen2 x4 (20 Gb/s)*
Yes, it has two slots; one is PCIe 3.0, the other is PCIe 2.0.

o_O

That's why I provided the link. You can also see that it supports Using a PCIe adapter card in all the x16 3.0 slots as boot device.

*Supports NVMe SSD as boot disks
 
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#33
Oh, am i being dumb? :)
I thought gen2 x4 means PCIe 2.0 x4? Way i read it is that it has one slot, running at said speed..

(don't be shy to tell me i am, lol)
 

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#34
Oh, am i being dumb? :)
I thought gen2 x4 means PCIe 2.0 x4?

(don't be shy to tell me i am, lol)

Yeah, you might want to read a bit more from the specification page. :p Or look at the picture of the board on the page I linked... you are reading the specs of the bottom M.2 port, which IS slower for sure, but the upper slot is a full speed PCIe 3.0 x4 slot.
 
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#35
Aaah, yeah, it's different on AsRocks, i see it now. They differentiate between the Ultra (which they don't even list under /Storage) and the slower one, hence my confusion.

..why would they post them under separate categories.. hard drives are storage..

But anyway, thanks. Now i can narrow it down at least, either the new AsRock, or the new top tier Gigabyte. Mounting notwithstanding :)
 
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#36
vega and ryzen will do damn good cos of infinity fabric
That's right. I am curious to see if this gives a AMD build an advantage. AMD stated anything developed in 2017 and beyond has Infinity Fabric.
Runs at the speed of DDR4 Ram. AMD updating the memory multiplier in May I believe, to have Ryzen support faster Ram speeds in excess of 3200. I've heard 3400 to 4000.
 
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#39
Subbed :

Going to watch and learn from you early adopters then maybe grab Ryzen in a few months.

Hopefully in a laptop form factor :)


Hopefully Ryzen will be as fun to overclock as my fx8150 :)
 

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#40
OK, yeah, I did check that since it is a commonly reported issue, but is not present for me. Might be BIOS-version-related.
I will give the board another shot at work. I mean it can't go any worse than any of the other boards I have played with. Here is top hoping I had one off problems.
 
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#41
Or get an RX480 8gb now
Normally, AMD does a pretty good job making the generation 2 cards better than the first generation. IIRC, those are just around the corner, so I would think that now would be a less than ideal time to buy a RX480.
 
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#42
I'm planning to upgrade with the launch of the R5 series. I've been looking everywhere for the ASRock AB350m, but it doesn't look like it's been released yet. I wish there were more mATX options aside from Gigabyte and MSi at the moment.
 
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MSI boards are looking like the best clockers from random online blurbs
 

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#44
MSI boards are looking like the best clockers from random online blurbs
They haven't been the best clockers according to any of the records held right now...
 
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They haven't been the best clockers according to any of the records held right now...
I think he meant for current/recent Ryzen builds, that MSI has had a but more overall success (or less issues if your glass is half-full). Although I expect better boards and out-of-box BIOS's next quarter.
 
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My Corsair Vengence LPX 3200 arrived in today. with BIOS 1001 I am at least able to get 2666 to boot consistently with out to many issues thus far. No higher however.
 

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My Corsair Vengence LPX 3200 arrived in today. with BIOS 1001 I am at least able to get 2666 to boot consistently with out to many issues thus far. No higher however.
Next time, buy G.Skill. :p
 
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#49
Next time, buy G.Skill. :p
Thats what I had, just the cheaper stuff (rip jaws V), I just couldn't justify the extra $50 to get the trident z (and the heatspreaders are way to tall if I wanted to go with my Phanteks cooler) And the flare x is even more expensive and out of stock. Even the trident z would be a gamble on the alpa UEFI this board seems to be running.
 

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#50
Yeah, for high-end sticks right now, the 14-14-14-34 3200 MHz sticks from G.Skill are about the only ones that seem to work, since they are the right IC, and single-sided. The RGB sticks I just got (review soon) @ 16-16-16-36 3600 MHz also work just fine too. Those straight timings (14-14-14 or 16-16-16) at high speeds seems to be a bit rare (most brands do not offer such timings).

The unfortunate part about the Corsair sticks is that it seems they have two different versions, one has the right IC, the other does not. That sucks for Ryzen users, since there doesn't seem to be a way to know what ICs are present unless you can see the actual sticks in person and read the code on the stick itself.


Its situations like this that have me favor G.Skill for high-end sticks, actually.


But I have to say it now; X99, Intel's first DDR4 entry, had THE EXACT SAME PROBLEMS at launch, with broken memory dividers between 2666 and 3200. That is why although the problem with getting the right memory is a big one, it isn't that unexpected, and as such is relatively minor. Here's to hoping that AMD can get it sorted just like Intel did.