So is a 7 year old X58 system obsolete. Lets get some numbers and see.

dorsetknob · Jul 3, 2016

Recon-UK said:
BTW i'm slapping a H100 on my XEON and aiming for 4.7ghz

Me >>>>>>>>>Soon to be x5650 under Raystorm Water block and 360 XSPC Rad

phill · Jul 3, 2016

I think my X58 systems will be around with me until I'm old and grey

I don't see me changing or getting rid of them....

Recon-UK · Jul 4, 2016

cdawall said:
Quite a few people have hence why amd is still around, it's only a multi-billion dollar industry whenever people talk mad shit on amd products remember it took until skylake for multithreading on Intel to catch up to the crap fx chips. We may actually see them start to be useful as games actually start multithreading correctly.

Heheheh

When i start my true overclocking escapade on this system, bring your best FX chip please.

Mussels · Jul 4, 2016

Recon-UK said:
Heheheh

When i start my true overclocking escapade on this system, bring your best FX chip please.

challenge him to a bench-off.

no really, pick benchmarks you can both run and make a thread about it. compare stock, same MHz (CPU+ram) and then balls to the wall.

cdawall · Jul 4, 2016

Mussels said:
challenge him to a bench-off.

no really, pick benchmarks you can both run and make a thread about it. compare stock, same MHz (CPU+ram) and then balls to the wall.

They will be similar right up until you go cold than the fx chip wins.

Recon-UK · Jul 4, 2016

Mussels said:
challenge him to a bench-off.

no really, pick benchmarks you can both run and make a thread about it. compare stock, same MHz (CPU+ram) and then balls to the wall.

I will wait until i have all the kit ready, i need a mounting kit for the H100 and i need time for my balls to regrow. I'm joking just the H100 kit, so later this month

cdawall said:
They will be similar right up until you go cold than the fx chip wins.

The FX will lose in single thread, and won't go passed 5.2ghz.

(water)

I'm sure i will be around 1.4-1.45v at 4.7ghz, i'm thinking the silicon will need a high voltage bump near it's maximum OC plus a lot of tweaking to other things on the board, the FX however will need 1.6v or higher which is scary

to get 5.2ghz.

Also i'm not off my head, everything is calculated mentally and by experience.

Also an i7 930 can get there, though for 45nm, you need way more voltas and they run a lot hotter.

http://www.overclock.net/t/871320/i7-930-4713mhz-help-me-to-4-8ghz

My XEON is 32nm

4.15ghz XEON.

FX can't even hang until it's at 5ghz.

Note to self: Learn to use multiquote and edit tabs.

phill · Jul 4, 2016

I think we needed some more pictures so here's a few of my X58 rigs...

Altogether...

EarthDog · Jul 4, 2016

Recon... nice quadruple post... you new here? LOL!!!!

Edit your posts to add big guy.

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Recon-UK · Jul 4, 2016

EarthDog said:
Fucking A recon... nice quadruple post... you new here? LOL!!!!

I went a bit overboard? ayyy LMAO!

Sorry, i am a defender...

But for real, i need to remember next time, apologies to all.

RealNeil · Jul 4, 2016

phill said:
I think we needed some more pictures so here's a few of my X58 rigs...Altogether...

Sweet looking rigs. All of them. Good pics too.

phill · Jul 5, 2016

Thank you

The specs of them are pretty decent and the 920 CPUs in the EVGA 759 and 762 were really good!!

I'm currently doing a bit of overclocking work with my X99 system at the moment but my main problem with that is I have no idea what case to put it in!!

Since Danger Den are no longer, I'm at a bit of a loss!! Plus I can't seem to find a case I like that would fit in what cooling I'd like

I'm not winning at all at the moment lol

Recon-UK · Jul 5, 2016

EarthDog · Jul 5, 2016

LOL Recon... just talking to hear yourself speak at this point, LOL! Fighting a fight only those in the battle care to see. LOL!

A couple of things with that vid...

1. Its old. Games are ancient. So are the GPUs.
2. The SLI combo is WEAK.

Id like to see this testing with modern GPUs and modern games... as I have shown in here before...

Not a good video/example.

Recon-UK · Jul 5, 2016

EarthDog said:
LOL Recon... just talking to hear yourself speak at this point, LOL! Fighting a fight only those in the battle care to see. LOL!

A couple of things with that vid...

1. Its old. Games are ancient. So are the GPUs.
2. The SLI combo is WEAK.

Id like to see this testing with modern GPUs and modern games... as I have shown in here before...

Not a good video/example.

Ehhh oh it's not a serious post lol, was just adding to the thread.

Kmpoaquests · Jul 19, 2016

I joined this forum just because I Googled the same question. I'm not nor do I feel limited by my water-cooled 930 oced to 4.4 on heavy everyday use. Paired it worth with sli gtx 480 along with a 32 inch 1440p monitor and there hasn't been one game I couldn't enjoy on ultra settings or at the least above average settings

This is coming from a dota/poe player

But to be fair I don't think games or software advanced to the point where they take full advantage of more resources like in the 90s or mid 00s. Nowadays everything is a dam port. Only changes I see coming is if you are into VR or a fan of sword art online

Recon-UK · Jul 19, 2016

Kmpoaquests said:
I joined this forum just because I Googled the same question. I'm not nor do I feel limited by my water-cooled 930 oced to 4.4 on heavy everyday use. Paired it worth with sli gtx 480 along with a 32 inch 1440p monitor and there hasn't been one game I couldn't enjoy on ultra settings or at the least above average settings

This is coming from a dota/poe player

But to be fair I don't think games or software advanced to the point where they take full advantage of more resources like in the 90s or mid 00s. Nowadays everything is a dam port. Only changes I see coming is if you are into VR or a fan of sword art online

Upgrade those old dogs, that CPU can do a lot better than that.

Tomgang · Jul 19, 2016

oh this tread still alive. Well how about as an reward brand new bench results of my old junk. all bench are now done with CPU at 4.4 GHz or ass close as possible to that and thats with air cooling after i have spend time to get the last bit out of my cpu. But i admit cpu temp were also pretty hign, but if i had water cooling 4,4 Ghz for every day is possible i would think.

CPU-z bench.

Heaven benchmark 3099 score.

Valley benchmark score 4756

3DMark firestrike score 16537.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13192560

And off cause the new DX 12 bench 3DMark Time Spy score 6454

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/12345

Thats it sorry

Tomgang · Jul 19, 2016

Kmpoaquests said:
I joined this forum just because I Googled the same question. I'm not nor do I feel limited by my water-cooled 930 oced to 4.4 on heavy everyday use. Paired it worth with sli gtx 480 along with a 32 inch 1440p monitor and there hasn't been one game I couldn't enjoy on ultra settings or at the least above average settings

This is coming from a dota/poe player

But to be fair I don't think games or software advanced to the point where they take full advantage of more resources like in the 90s or mid 00s. Nowadays everything is a dam port. Only changes I see coming is if you are into VR or a fan of sword art online

You would still get a huge improvement if you get one or two newer cards over those old GTX 480. Just going from two GTX 660 TI sli to two GTX 970 sli in pc gave me alot of improvement in many games. special in the more demanding games like crysis 3 gave me alot of ekstra power to play with. just se my benchmark says it all.

Recon-UK · Jul 19, 2016

@Tomgang Your CPU is scoring what my XEON does, but my XEON is 100mhz slower @ 4.3, what's up with that? CPU-Z i mean.

Tomgang · Jul 19, 2016

Recon-UK said:
@Tomgang Your CPU is scoring what my XEON does, but my XEON is 100mhz slower @ 4.3, what's up with that? CPU-Z i mean.

what you se is the better clock for clock performence going from 45 MN (my cpu) to 32 NM (your cpu). Your cpu is a 32 MN manufaturing like the 6 core xeon and I7 cpu like I7 970 or gluftown (gluftown is the I7 parts) as they are known under by code name just like my cpu is known as Nehalem/bloomfield.

EarthDog · Jul 20, 2016

Tomgang said:
You would still get a huge improvement if you get one or two newer cards over those old GTX 480. Just going from two GTX 660 TI sli to two GTX 970 sli in pc gave me alot of improvement in many games. special in the more demanding games like crysis 3 gave me alot of ekstra power to play with. just se my benchmark says it all.

He would see a significant improvement from a modern CPU as well as overclocking your current one. The glass ceiling is lower in SLI because it doesn't have the, ehh, fortitude to push it as well as modern chips. You will undoubtedly see improvements over 480 SLI with modern cards as well. But again, glass ceiling... buying a ferrari and only allowed to drive it on the roads, not at the track... etc.

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So is a 7 year old X58 system obsolete. Lets get some numbers and see.

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