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OK. Thanks.

BTW is the VID something that is printed on the outside of the box or do you have to install it and read it in SW?

Funny thing. Coretemp reports my VID as 1.1125V and if I set BIOS to auto then that is what is reported by monitoring programs. For some weird reason Realtemp 2.5 reports VID as 1.2250V. Not sure why.

In my experience, the only accurate tools for measuring vid is coretemps and everest. No it's not printed anywhere, you only know once the chip is installed if new, if buying used, say from Flea Bay I always ask the seller to confirm before I bid. Vid is less inmportant in anycase with 45nm chips as the parametres are much narrower, for an example the E8200 probable will only have a vid range between (at a guess) 1.050 - 1.175 but if you take for example, the 65nm Q6600 Kentsfield, the Vid range for that chip throughout it's history will read something like 1.150 0 1.375v.
 
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In my experience, the only accurate tools for measuring vid is coretemps and everest. No it's not printed anywhere, you only know once the chip is installed if new, if buying used, say from Flea Bay I always ask the seller to confirm before I bid. Vid is less inmportant in anycase with 45nm chips as the parametres are much narrower, for an example the E8200 probable will only have a vid range between (at a guess) 1.050 - 1.175 but if you take for example, the 65nm Q6600 Kentsfield, the Vid range for that chip throughout it's history will read something like 1.150 0 1.375v.

Well they say you learn something new every day. Mission accomplished. Guess I can turn off my brain for the rest of the day :laugh:

So actually this would be an advantage buying a used chip if you had one with a good VID. Actually I am investigating buying an E8400 for my main setup and moving my E8200 to my son's machine. What is a good VID to be shooting for on the E8400?
 
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batch # tends to give a better indication of clocking ability, some low vids dont clock as well as higher ones so....
 
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The VID can also be different for the same chip with different motherboards or even BIOS versions, this is not uncommon at all. For example, my xeon e3110 gets a VID of 1.125 in my Foxconn Mars, and a VID of 1.015 in my Gigabyte DS3R, both reading with the exact same version of coretemp (whatever the newest one was at the time right after wolfdales were released). This is just one of the many examples I've come across.

Just a nice bit of information I found interesting :cool:


And as marsey said, batch #'s are a much better indication for OCing than VID :)
 
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The VID can also be different for the same chip with different motherboards or even BIOS versions, this is not uncommon at all. For example, my xeon e3110 gets a VID of 1.125 in my Foxconn Mars, and a VID of 1.015 in my Gigabyte DS3R, both reading with the exact same version of coretemp (whatever the newest one was at the time right after wolfdales were released). This is just one of the many examples I've come across.

Just a nice bit of information I found interesting :cool:


And as marsey said, batch #'s are a much better indication for OCing than VID :)

Now that is odd. From what I understood the VID is programmed by Intel into the CPU at the factory. I assume that they do some characterization testing and then set the value. Do they have some Non-volatile RAM built onto the die to store this sort of info or do they have some bridges that they can laser open to set the value? So then why would a different mobo read a different VID? I must be missing something... Maybe I have to try to learn another thing today... Don't know if I have any spare brain capacity to fill until I get rid of some useless information first. Time for a house cleaning :)
 
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batch # tends to give a better indication of clocking ability, some low vids dont clock as well as higher ones so....

Thanks. Do you happen to know a good batch number for E8400?

Maybe I should start a new thread rather than taking this one so far from the original topic...
 
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Thanks. Do you happen to know a good batch number for E8400?

Maybe I should start a new thread rather than taking this one so far from the original topic...

Look for Q745Axxx or Q746Axxx. Mine is Q747A374 and it's pretty decent as well.

If you want a really nice one, look for an early batch/pack date, such as those I listed :)

*Edit: Also know someone with a really nice Q807.
 
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My new 2nd rig E8400 and its first overclock.
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Look for Q745Axxx or Q746Axxx. Mine is Q747A374 and it's pretty decent as well.

If you want a really nice one, look for an early batch/pack date, such as those I listed :)

*Edit: Also know someone with a really nice Q807.

Well I have been tracking prices lately on EBay and a new E8400 retail just came up this morning in Canada for $159. There is a big advantage for me buying within Canada since there is no customs delays getting stuff. So I guess I will find out the batch when it arrives ;)

That impulsive nature of mine...

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Now that is odd. From what I understood the VID is programmed by Intel into the CPU at the factory. I assume that they do some characterization testing and then set the value. Do they have some Non-volatile RAM built onto the die to store this sort of info or do they have some bridges that they can laser open to set the value? So then why would a different mobo read a different VID? I must be missing something... Maybe I have to try to learn another thing today... Don't know if I have any spare brain capacity to fill until I get rid of some useless information first. Time for a house cleaning :)

Yes but you have to remember that it's software reading the info from hardware hence the differences between motherboards.....the same applies as an example in temp monitoring software, you could open Intel Tat, Coretemps, everest and your motherboards generic monitoring tool etc all at the same time and they may all show slight differences on the temps.

If you want, when I get home I will let you know the batch number of my E8200, at 4.45gig it clocks as well as many E8400's :D All you need is the mobo that can comfortably handle FSB's over 550.

Ohhhh and yes, we are way too "off topic", there is a wolfdale thread somewhere, if either of us find it we could continue there and just place a linkie here.
 
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Well I have been tracking prices lately on EBay and a new E8400 retail just came up this morning in Canada for $159. There is a big advantage for me buying within Canada since there is no customs delays getting stuff. So I guess I will find out the batch when it arrives ;)

That impulsive nature of mine...

Must... Not.... Hit..... The... BUY IT NOW.... Button.... Must... Resist.... AAAAHHH!!!

"Resistance is Futile":respect:
 
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try starting a thread if theres not 1 already.

i know oc.n have 1 about the penryn chips their b# and ocing abilities.

mines a q808 fyi.
 

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