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rev - sorry bout the mistake on the nose . . . it was a little hard to tell without a clear front shot.

looks like it ought to be a really nice turnout once your project is completed. Extra points for keeping a PMD motor in a tin indian :respect:

O yea the teaser, it's the body line, I sharpned them all up like the later 79-81's, and kinda like the camaro.

I thought it looked a little . . . sleeker. I had an 81 Formula for a short while, and absolutely loved that generation F-body and styling. I always thought especially the 80-81 F-body's had a more muscular look, but kept a very swept style to them (I think the up-swept tail contributed to that look). I also liked the seperated headlight buckets, and the slightly raised cosmetic "scoops" on the formulas (which were really easy to open up like most Pontiac's were). I'd love to get my hands on a 78 Bandit edition TA and restore it, but they're hard to find, and money is fairly tight . . .

BTW, absolutely beautiful color on that motor! Do you intend to do a lot of chrome or billet cosmetics - or leave everything blue (nothing wrong with that "stocker" look!!)?
 
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Yea, I think the bird nose and tail light layout, give's that very distinc eagle look of the Firebird ready to pounce on it's prey:).

I too love these stock Pontaic Rally wheels, that's why I've never changed them to aftermarket.

The euro feel of the curves all over the car is awesome, I just wanted to get the more modern look as the late 79-81 bird bodyline has.

I like the big block to :D , did you see my link?
 

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If you think that's cool, did you know you can squeeze one into a Chevette? Hot Rod did it. http://www.dieselchevettes.com/PDF/thebadseed.pdf


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that near 'bout brings a tear to my eye! That just nabbed a spot in my list of most impressive things I've ever seen - beating out a LS7 powered Solstice (I never woulda believed that motor would fit right in if I had never seen the pictures) - oh, yeah, another Hot Rod great!
 
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I guess I need to take a few pictures of my oldie. I have a 68 Olds (duh - lol) Cutlass S convertable. It has just over 200k on it, with 7500 miles on the rebuilt original Rocket 350 and about 2000 miles on the Turbo 400 3spd automatic.
 
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I guess I need to take a few pictures of my oldie. I have a 68 Olds (duh - lol) Cutlass S convertable. It has just over 200k on it, with 7500 miles on the rebuilt original Rocket 350 and about 2000 miles on the Turbo 400 3spd automatic.

Nice!
 
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heres mine.Cost a fortune,it did need some cosmetic stuff when i got it tho'.I think its one of the most beutiful cars ever made.

1955 mercedes sl300 gullwing.



 
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Tigger, I love those cars in silver. I don't know how many are in the UK, but here it is an extremely rare car even if you did have the money.
 
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Damn sussed :p

Is it coz its a £100k+ car.I do love it tho'
 
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heres mine.Cost a fortune,it did need some cosmetic stuff when i got it tho'.I think its one of the most beutiful cars ever made.

1955 mercedes sl300 gullwing.

Sweetpickles you've gota be kiding.That is like a once ina lifetime dream.:respect::respect:

Those are about as bueatiful as they get.

i think that when John Deloron talked about the "europeion" influince to the 2ndGen Firebird,
you can see subtle hints of what he meant.
 
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I own a Charger -71 http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/roger_of_sweden/charger.jpg
Not my car on picture, but it gives you an idéa of how it looks. Mine is "Crazy plum metallic" with a Six-pack and pistolgrip shifter. Don't ask how fast it goes, I still haven't got my drivers licens.... (But hey, I can still OWN a car!)

My Good friend is a Mopar man, and he to has amoung others, origonal '70 Challenger RT 440/6 pack 4speed[inline], and it's[was] a screamer Ended up it dropped a valve.
Cherrish them it's well worth it!!!

Man just thumping around with that "purple" camshaft, made heads turn alot!!
 
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Extra points for keeping a PMD motor in a tin indian :respect:

Thanks, that's what really turns me on about the car. i'd put a Poncho in just about anything I could,xcept a GT40:nutkick:
BTW, absolutely beautiful color on that motor! Do you intend to do a lot of chrome or billet cosmetics - or leave everything blue (nothing wrong with that "stocker" look!!)?

Well this time i;m stepping outside the box, got an alloy intake, and a Canton Roadrace oilpan thats gold, and a pair of hard to get factory chrome valve covers that have the oildrippers spotwelded in the top, like the majority of a/c painted sets.

This last time around I had the valve covers and balancer in candy red, and the valley pan and stock oilpan in black, and the timing cover silver.
I may go ahead and use headers, since the 2.5 full exhaust is already set up for them, but those stock cast units sure did help keep the heat out!!!!!

EDIT

BTW I got that virgin Formula hood for $50, it was missing the back left conner, and i just grafted a section from a 70's vette rear valance that had a close profile of what I needed, and walah. I even did it away from the car, just looking at the otherside to shape the contour's, and the shop owner 'bout crapped when he seen it installed with fenders.......perfect match!!!
I also have a pair[actually 3more sets, but not so good shape] of mint rare 1971[only yr. for the rectangle sharkfin air extractor] fenders, that I drilled completly apart to seal behind all the brace's, and well also to get an exacting contour to the doors, and front nose and valance.[there stashed out in the shed w/ 1/2 the rest of the car]

 
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My sweet fender's 1971 was only year for them!....................................................................................Gotta have a stock Steeringwheel!



Whats that I have more of them????? :)



Best Stock iron intake[not HO] topped w/800CFM M/T carb from later 70's..........................................and some of my "Dressup kit :)



Killer 7 Bld 19"Stock A/C fan Gotta have that!!!!!



And some port work vs stock



And for rhe very keen, a closeup of the reshapeing. Note the trapazoid effect!

 
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just based on those pics - those heads ought to flow really well for your combo. If you're getting serious about a motor buildup, though, you might want to find a shop that can benchflow the complete intake setup - carb to head. No point in running high flow heads if the carb will equate to sucking through a straw, especially if yer gonna go with an Edel intake . . . but, just by looks, it should suit you well

Oh, and kick-ass that you still got a PMD "woodie" steering wheel! Damn that suckers in great shape from what I can tell . . . it'd be worth quite a penny to have to replace!



:laugh: This thread 'bout needs to be re-named "Ooogle revin's F-body rebuild" :roll:
 
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Speaking of the flow, back in the 90's I got ahold of a rare 780 D/P Holley.
I ran it for 6 passes, then swapped over to my Q-jet. Did 8 passes.
All of them were quicker ET and faster mph with the big Q.

It's a very well matched carb for these heads.
As for the intake, sadly it's just a Performer, and not the RPM like I had on the stroker.
So it's really only as good as the stock[due to my <6k rpm] that I have xcept that its many lbs lighter.:)

As for the woodie, I also have about 4 differant wood dash inserts to choose from!!
 

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just my opinion here, but as far as stock carbs go - Q's are the best.

But, TBH, I don't know all too much about carbs - I understand how they operate, and how to tweak them a little for tuning up a customers vehicle - but when it comes to outright tuning a carb for performance . . . :confused:

but, on the other hand, I understand EFI to a killer degree. It's kinda funny . . . the shop I work at has only two techs - me, and the "master tech" He knows all the old school stuff (which we do quite a bit of), and I cover all the newer tech (which covers quite a bit also). I remember once, when he was trying to describe how to tune a carb, I was just absolutely lost . . . but, when I was trying to describe how a CAN OBD system operates, he just wasn't getting it, either. :laugh:
 

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just my opinion here, but as far as stock carbs go - Q's are the best.

But, TBH, I don't know all too much about carbs - I understand how they operate, and how to tweak them a little for tuning up a customers vehicle - but when it comes to outright tuning a carb for performance . . . :confused:

but, on the other hand, I understand EFI to a killer degree. It's kinda funny . . . the shop I work at has only two techs - me, and the "master tech" He knows all the old school stuff (which we do quite a bit of), and I cover all the newer tech (which covers quite a bit also). I remember once, when he was trying to describe how to tune a carb, I was just absolutely lost . . . but, when I was trying to describe how a CAN OBD system operates, he just wasn't getting it, either. :laugh:
I'm an EFI guy as well. I can do the carb stuff on a Holley style carb, and can read plugs, etc. But why do that when a computer and some sensors can do the work for me? lol.

I tuned my turboed 2000 Celi GTS myself with a borrowed laptop on my Apexi Power FC with the datalogit bundle. Used a wideband o2 and EGT to get my tune right.
 
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Case CoolerMaster HAF 932
Audio Device(s) Intel 10ch[9+1] HD Audio X540> Pioneer VSX39TX[copper chasis,Rosewood sides 5x6LCD remote
Power Supply Seasonic X750 @ 24/7
Mouse Logictech G300s
Keyboard Saitek Cyborg v7
Software Windows 7 ROG E3 X64 by Neuropass/tweakscene
Benchmark Scores 4642@665/1600 220/GAT F1 4544 220/667strap 2.5/3/2/6 Bliss 650/1500 6490 Q6700 Bliss 690/1500
Another thing that we all, techie and non techie, share for sure is undisputable.........................................................................................:eek::D
And has been around since the begining of mankind[and girls too]..............:)....................................................................................:twitch:
 
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Cooling Scythe NINJA PLUS Rev.B[skt478] Modded to 1155 Scythe SH12 fan
Memory Samsung 32nm 16Gb 4x4 (@19xxmhz} low profile[ better than 2133 banwidth]
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Storage Intel 512 SSD,Samsung 9701Tb, Toshiba 3Tbx2,Hitachi 320,1TBx2,'Cuda 400 7200.10, WD1TBUSB,to SATA
Display(s) Acer K272HUL 1440 27" WQHD, Samsung 226W, Vizio M60C3 4K 60",Vizio XVT3D554SV
Case CoolerMaster HAF 932
Audio Device(s) Intel 10ch[9+1] HD Audio X540> Pioneer VSX39TX[copper chasis,Rosewood sides 5x6LCD remote
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Mouse Logictech G300s
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Software Windows 7 ROG E3 X64 by Neuropass/tweakscene
Benchmark Scores 4642@665/1600 220/GAT F1 4544 220/667strap 2.5/3/2/6 Bliss 650/1500 6490 Q6700 Bliss 690/1500
BY THE SEAT of OUR PANTS and ears:rockout::pimp::respect:
 
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Motherboard Intel Extreme DZ68BC SkullTrail Z68 Cougerpoint, Excellent MCH !
Cooling Scythe NINJA PLUS Rev.B[skt478] Modded to 1155 Scythe SH12 fan
Memory Samsung 32nm 16Gb 4x4 (@19xxmhz} low profile[ better than 2133 banwidth]
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Aurosus 1080Ti
Storage Intel 512 SSD,Samsung 9701Tb, Toshiba 3Tbx2,Hitachi 320,1TBx2,'Cuda 400 7200.10, WD1TBUSB,to SATA
Display(s) Acer K272HUL 1440 27" WQHD, Samsung 226W, Vizio M60C3 4K 60",Vizio XVT3D554SV
Case CoolerMaster HAF 932
Audio Device(s) Intel 10ch[9+1] HD Audio X540> Pioneer VSX39TX[copper chasis,Rosewood sides 5x6LCD remote
Power Supply Seasonic X750 @ 24/7
Mouse Logictech G300s
Keyboard Saitek Cyborg v7
Software Windows 7 ROG E3 X64 by Neuropass/tweakscene
Benchmark Scores 4642@665/1600 220/GAT F1 4544 220/667strap 2.5/3/2/6 Bliss 650/1500 6490 Q6700 Bliss 690/1500
I can remember when an "ole timer" watched my set up a set of points, I set the gap, then fired it up popped the allen in the window, whipped it back and forth split the differance and he laughed his ass off when he put his dwell meter on it was deadnut 30*.
He told me "well i'm not dead yet, i'm still learning":toast:
When asked why i did that, i just thought that it seamed reasonable to split the means between the studders.
 
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Cooling Scythe NINJA PLUS Rev.B[skt478] Modded to 1155 Scythe SH12 fan
Memory Samsung 32nm 16Gb 4x4 (@19xxmhz} low profile[ better than 2133 banwidth]
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Aurosus 1080Ti
Storage Intel 512 SSD,Samsung 9701Tb, Toshiba 3Tbx2,Hitachi 320,1TBx2,'Cuda 400 7200.10, WD1TBUSB,to SATA
Display(s) Acer K272HUL 1440 27" WQHD, Samsung 226W, Vizio M60C3 4K 60",Vizio XVT3D554SV
Case CoolerMaster HAF 932
Audio Device(s) Intel 10ch[9+1] HD Audio X540> Pioneer VSX39TX[copper chasis,Rosewood sides 5x6LCD remote
Power Supply Seasonic X750 @ 24/7
Mouse Logictech G300s
Keyboard Saitek Cyborg v7
Software Windows 7 ROG E3 X64 by Neuropass/tweakscene
Benchmark Scores 4642@665/1600 220/GAT F1 4544 220/667strap 2.5/3/2/6 Bliss 650/1500 6490 Q6700 Bliss 690/1500
just my opinion here, but as far as stock carbs go - Q's are the best.

On that note, the BOP's are the cream of the crop.
A big plus is the straight inlet fuel feed.
Also some have nearly fullsize primarys, ie... the venturi "bumps" are not large, thus allow for a more full size flow as the size primary plates.
Quite a few of the 800CFMer's are found on manual trans motors from the mid 70's.
Other than the SD Q, i believe that the other 800's are the eminsion series that begin with "170" numbers.
A quick look down the primary holes, and if the eyeball can see virtually the same size venturi bump as the throttle plate....................................................:pimp:
 
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