Windows 11 ISO Leaks to the Web, New Start Screen, Mac-like Centered Dock, Rounded Edges

[27MaD]

Tbh i'm looking at the bright side, If it's actually basically Win 10 at least we're having higher chances of having a stable OS at launch, even though Win 10 still isn't 100% stable after 6 years of it's release lol.

I like the new sounds of stuff (Startup, Device plug-in, etc...), The new motions look super nice tbh but i think that's gonna be a pain in the ass for guys low on memory (I'm pretty sure they can be disabled from Performance options>>Visual Effects), Rounded corners look cute.
Idk whether i like the new Start menu or not but that'll show after daily using Win 11 When it's released officially, (Same thing for taskbar and mouse right-click shortcuts).

Personally i'm super hyped for it even though it's not an all new OS, but Win 10 now feels so BORING.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I'm running it on my system right now. Everything works as intended, the kernel is 10.0 - so you shouldn't expect any compatibility issues with 10 in general, it's just 10 with a fancy UI. It is feature complete and - so far - stable, been running since the day it leaked and I have not experienced any BSODs or crashes. Everything works, licensing is the same from Windows 10 - it even picks up your 10 license from your Microsoft account and activates silently and seamlessly.

That said, about the UI... I confess I like it, so far. It grew on me. The only thing I do not like is that to invoke the task manager, you need to right click the Windows logo itself rather than anywhere on the taskbar - Ctrl+Shift+Esc still works, as does Windows key+X shortcut.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Frankly one build is no different than another so 10 to 11 lol so what let the people spin at really nothing except a number change.
If I can't mount the new iso like all other builds to date then I'll pass there's no way I'll clean install.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Having spent a few hours using it, I can say without fear of contradiction that this version is not ready for prime-time daily use. It also seems to be going in the direction of further removing some fine-grained controls. For example, the page-file controls seem to be completely missing. Can't use OpenShell with it either. In it's current form it seems like more Microsoft f#$kery.

However, this is an alpha build, so final judgement is not warranted.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Having spent a few hours using it, I can say without fear of contradiction that this version is not ready for prime-time daily use. It also seems to be going in the direction of further removing some fine-grained controls. For example, the page-file controls seem to be completely missing. Can't use OpenShell with it either. In it's current form it seems like more Microsoft f#$kery.

However, this is an alpha build, so final judgement is not warranted.

So odd that you're running into that problem, the pagefile controls are present on my system. Typing "system settings" on the search box will bring up the "view advanced system settings" window immediately. The link is also in the same place you'd find it in Windows 10 otherwise, Settings > System > About and on the sidebar, or through Windows key+X.

I must say, I haven't had the slightest issue with it so far.

 

[lexluthermiester]

So odd that you're running into that problem, the pagefile controls are present on my system. Typing "system settings" on the search box will bring up the "view advanced system settings" window immediately. The link is also in the same place you'd find it in Windows 10 otherwise, Settings > System > About and on the sidebar, or through Windows key+X.

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I must say, I haven't had the slightest issue with it so far.

Hmm. Maybe it was one of the tweaks I made... I'll test what happens when I reverse it.

EDIT: Yup, that was it... That's going to take some experimentation to figure out.

 

[Tom Sunday]

What ever the case maybe....any Windows 10 upgrade or proffered Microsoft OS improvement (as big or as small it may look) is geared towards extracting more user information more cleverly and more quickly. It's all about the money and nothing is free. Nor ever will be. Continued "live flowing" informatiion is money and power and here to stay. This will never change and as we continue to be the product. Sorry for the gloom and doom but reality always bites.

 

[lexluthermiester]

What ever the case maybe....any Windows 10 upgrade or proffered Microsoft OS improvement (as big or as small it may look) is geared towards extracting more user information more cleverly and more quickly. It's all about the money and nothing is free. Nor ever will be. Continued "live flowing" informatiion is money and power and here to stay. This will never change and as we continue to be the product. On a somewhat related matter my Priest aproached me last Sunday wanting to know when I last confessed. Sorry for the gloom and doom but reality always bites.

I have not seen anything that would indicate 11 is doing any more spying than 10. It takes the exact same methods to disable all of it and the services don't have anything extra running. There are a few things changed around but that's all.

 

[johnpa]

Besides Windows privacy issues (I have not searched what privacy data it sends, with all settings disabled), I must mention that Microsoft always has to improve Windows, even if Windows is great (like Windows 7).

This is the way companies work, they want to provide new products and get additional money.

For example, today I read about the new Sound Blaster x4 which builds on the successful Sound Blaster x3.

Even if a product is successful, they have to keep creating even better products.

 

[ps000000]

I am waiting how to uncombine group tasks in the taskbar in Windows 11.

 

[halo9]

This seems like nothing more than a marketing stunt by M$ to stay relevant in the market. Just look at all trolling tech ads coming out between the big players, M$ vs Apple, intel vs Apple, everyone vs Apple, lol. All now competing for top spot. How do you stay relevant in the market? Keep bringing stuff out. Recall a few years ago when all news was on AMD and Zen 1/2/3, what was intel bringing out, nothing, but their marketing and PR teams, almost daily press releases about “new” stuff. It even infected TPU.

We don’t even know what build this leaked ISO is, so I’m not getting caught up in it until an offical build is out. Though it does appear from all the negative comments online that it is an early build as there are many issues still to iron out. But from what can be seen it does seem, at least to me, a half baked attempt to refresh the UI and change the version number as underlying all that it is still Windows 10. Why the change? Marketing, relevance, etc. Gotta appear to be on their game.

Consider this though, Mac OS X (X = 10 of course) came out in 2001 and stayed at version 10 with yearly updates until 2015. What happened in 2015… Windows 10 came out and M$ announced this is the “last version of windows”. So what did Apple do, in 2016 they renamed OSX to macOS, ditch the 10. Marketing, differentiation. Skip a few years ahead and in 2020 Apple releases macOS Big Sur but more importantly it was the first version in nearly 20 years to jump a full version number and became macOS 11. Less than a year later the “last” version of Windows is being updated to version 11. Maybe coincidence, but these are big companies run by marketing departments. It’s all about getting it out there, the money and the “product” will catch up when enough people complain. Look at windows 8/8.1 and the first few years of Windows 10. I don’t believe this was a planned OS update, I believe it was a reaction to the market. A market that’s upset intel with the M1 release and we all know intel and M$ go hand in hand. These are “games” way above our pay grades.

Disclosure I run intel/windows systems and don’t use macs.

 

[CountMike]

This seems like nothing more than a marketing stunt by M$ to stay relevant in the market. Just look at all trolling tech ads coming out between the big players, M$ vs Apple, intel vs Apple, everyone vs Apple, lol. All now competing for top spot. How do you stay relevant in the market? Keep bringing stuff out. Recall a few years ago when all news was on AMD and Zen 1/2/3, what was intel bringing out, nothing, but their marketing and PR teams, almost daily press releases about “new” stuff. It even infected TPU.

We don’t even know what build this leaked ISO is, so I’m not getting caught up in it until an offical build is out. Though it does appear from all the negative comments online that it is an early build as there are many issues still to iron out. But from what can be seen it does seem, at least to me, a half baked attempt to refresh the UI and change the version number as underlying all that it is still Windows 10. Why the change? Marketing, relevance, etc. Gotta appear to be on their game.

Consider this though, Mac OS X (X = 10 of course) came out in 2001 and stayed at version 10 with yearly updates until 2015. What happened in 2015… Windows 10 came out and M$ announced this is the “last version of windows”. So what did Apple do, in 2016 they renamed OSX to macOS, ditch the 10. Marketing, differentiation. Skip a few years ahead and in 2020 Apple releases macOS Big Sur but more importantly it was the first version in nearly 20 years to jump a full version number and became macOS 11. Less than a year later the “last” version of Windows is being updated to version 11. Maybe coincidence, but these are big companies run by marketing departments. It’s all about getting it out there, the money and the “product” will catch up when enough people complain. Look at windows 8/8.1 and the first few years of Windows 10. I don’t believe this was a planned OS update, I believe it was a reaction to the market. A market that’s upset intel with the M1 release and we all know intel and M$ go hand in hand. These are “games” way above our pay grades.

Disclosure I run intel/windows systems and don’t use macs.

Best way is to try it in a VM at least, it doesn't bYte

 

[Wirko]

Best way is to try it in a VM at least, it doesn't bYte

But doesn't it munch up a licence? It's eight dollars apiece!

 

[lexluthermiester]

Best way is to try it in a VM at least, it doesn't bYte

No the best way to try it is on real hardware.

But doesn't it munch up a licence? It's eight dollars apiece!

So buy another. Then you'll have one for 10 and one for 11.

 

[CountMike]

But doesn't it munch up a licence? It's eight dollars apiece!

Lol, you need no license for this, it will last at least until MS releases for good.

 

[Lycanwolfen]

Microsoft made more money when they gave users the choice of what they installed. Windows 98SE and Windows 7 you could uninstall the bloat the junk and customize your OS to your tastes. Now more and more Microsoft is becomming the John Deer of OS's. Everything is controled by them no choice of whats installed. Reminds me of the Ford Model T keep building the same product over and over no changes. MS is just pushing people to Linux or other platforms because no one wants a OS they have no control over. The Edge OS they should call this one because 90% of it is running on a Chromium platform. Heck Google should just make chromium not open source and charge money for there platform then MS would have to pay google for every Windows 11 sold. Also the latest build needs TPM 2.0 which is almost like Apple with there security chips inside there Computers that ties there MacOS to a hardware chip. MS never learns. Your customers are your money if you do not listen to their demands they will leave for something better. This is why I still run Windows 10 LTSC which I have full control over the OS and what it does. Also no Store no cortana and No Edge Period!. For all the people that work at Microsoft what if the company told you when buying a car you only get one choice a Honda Civic and no choice of color, wheels, seats, stereo, warrenty options, or anything. I quite sure you would refuse that in a heartbeat. Then why in the hell are you making an Operating System like that!?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Lol, you need no license for this, it will last at least until MS releases for good.

Incorrect. A key is not required for installation, but it is to use many of the OS system settings.

Now more and more Microsoft is becoming the John Deer of OS's.

No one can argue that, and it's NOT a good thing.

 

[CountMike]

Incorrect. A key is not required for installation, but it is to use many of the OS system settings.

No one can argue that, and it's NOT a good thing.

There was always "medicine" for that.

 

[bobbybluz]

I finally downloaded an 11 ESD last night but haven't converted it into an .iso yet. I have plenty of spare SSD's to try it on in one of my test mules. Just my own unrequested opinion but M$ should do a redeaux of 7 with the later improved memory management of 8/8.1 & 10. Go back to Areo, get rid of the tinker-toy cell phone look of the later OS's, concentrate on security and system performance. Trim the bloat out ala Enterprise LTSC and make a true enthusiasts version as well as a totally dumbed-down version for their main target market.

There was always "medicine" for that.

***cough cough "Aargh, matey" lololol***

 

[PapaTaipei]

Dumb frontpage bar looks like a mobile app. Not suited for desktop work.

 

[CountMike]

Dumb frontpage bar looks like a mobile app. Not suited for desktop work.

"Front page" ??

 

[Mussels]

"Front page" ??

thats gotta be a language barrier

Papa: It's the Task Bar in english

 

[GlowingPotato]

it sucks.

 

[lexluthermiester]

it sucks.

No it doesn't. It is no worse than Windows 10 and in a few ways a bit better.

 

[SKD007]

I did not even want to try it if this is how it look. Its a shame microsoft is copying Mac which is a shame. Also it will be easy for win11 users to migrate to mac due to similarity.. its important for Ms to stick to its root so that they have the advantage of familiarity