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LTT always does things in fuckaround complicated ways


And the first comment is what you said about secureboot and TPM fixing that issue.... but nah they cant retest that, they need their janky weird experience
 
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Same.

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I know I'll get used to whatever they vomit up, but Microsoft's 'change for the sake of change' has gotten really old.

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I hate the taskbar look. I hate giant clutter on the screen. What good are bunch of stupid icons that just litter the work space?

I hate the "Type here to search" spot on the task bar on Windows 10. It takes up unnecessary space. But if you hide the search bar it doesn't show up when pressing the Windows Key, like it did under Windows 7.....so you have no quick way to search for programs.

I just like, simple, clean looking and easy to navigate without having a ton of giant images/icons shoved in your face. At times I like to navigate with just the keyboard and even times when I know exactly where a file/program is I need I might launch it from the command prompt instead of clicking my way through half a dozen folders. When I first loaded and used Windows 10 it looked like and felt like someone threw up in the start menu....so cluttered with pinned crap it almost made my eyes bleed. That's about the same way I feel when I see my wife boot up her Mac laptop....giant icons at the bottom, her desktop screen cluttered....I even asked her if she uses all those programs along the taskbar at the bottom and she told me that she doesn't and she also doesn't even know what a few of them are, but just leaves them there.
Launching something from the cmd prompt already tells a lot about your user profile... it's not uncommon to see people who are expert in their field having a hard time to make things simple for the average guy.
What you see as "clean and simple" might be intimidating for someone else. There's a reason as to why the GUI replaced the text interface :D. There's a lot of people who feel more comfortable with visual cues. (mainly talking about the taskbar, I agree that the start menu can be overpowering and somewhat redundant)
If a macOS desktop is cluttered, it means that the user is using it as a folder, unlike windows, macOS doesn't automatically put shortcut on the desktop

Power users are always going to be unhappy with a mainstream product, you want windows to be handled like a nervous sport car without assistance, but the reality of things is that windows is just a prius that anyone must be able to drive without feeling that they are "fighting" with the car.

(although Windows UI/UX isn't perfect, and is still quirky in some ways, but making windows barebone and somewhat cryptic isn't a good move either)
 
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I hate the "Type here to search" spot on the task bar on Windows 10. It takes up unnecessary space. But if you hide the search bar it doesn't show up when pressing the Windows Key, like it did under Windows 7.....so you have no quick way to search for programs.
You can just press the windows button and start typing. It couldn't be any easier.

If I wanted Mac OS...I'd use I don't know...Mac OS.
Would if I could, but Macs are terrible hardware-wise and Apple makes it very difficult to use it on a regular computer.
 
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This is Microsoft's attempt to get millennials to want to keep Windows laptops instead of the Macbook and Chromebook variants that they tend to prefer. Hilariously, their MacOS+Ubuntu+KDE abomination will not bring the kids back. We're basically getting Windows 10X with headaches from functionality being removed, and more reliance on their wannabe iPhone/Android app store.
 
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I hate the taskbar look. I hate giant clutter on the screen. What good are bunch of stupid icons that just litter the work space?

I hate the "Type here to search" spot on the task bar on Windows 10. It takes up unnecessary space. But if you hide the search bar it doesn't show up when pressing the Windows Key, like it did under Windows 7.....so you have no quick way to search for programs.

I just like, simple, clean looking and easy to navigate without having a ton of giant images/icons shoved in your face. At times I like to navigate with just the keyboard and even times when I know exactly where a file/program is I need I might launch it from the command prompt instead of clicking my way through half a dozen folders. When I first loaded and used Windows 10 it looked like and felt like someone threw up in the start menu....so cluttered with pinned crap it almost made my eyes bleed. That's about the same way I feel when I see my wife boot up her Mac laptop....giant icons at the bottom, her desktop screen cluttered....I even asked her if she uses all those programs along the taskbar at the bottom and she told me that she doesn't and she also doesn't even know what a few of them are, but just leaves them there.
i dont know what is it you want but you ca resize the search bar to appear a search icon only. 2nd of all, if windows key does not make the start menu appear, you use windows key S for search or Windows key R to start.

If you want simplicity, you can try linux with kde. Just type in the keyboard and krunner will pick it up and if you dont have the software, it will automtically bring you to discover and either install or not. if it is installed, program will run
 
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Does it improve FPS that's all we care about.
I imagine the final version will have some new minor feature version of DirectX that they totally can't backport to Win10 because <insert made up reason here>.
 
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Not sure what you mean. Company I work for, switched to Teams a couple of months ago as their main webex service. Have been using it at work every single day since then. Haven't experienced any major issues with it.

Just wait, it gets worse and worse as time goes on, I'm signed into multiple devices, some chat messages show up on only one device, some calls are received only on another.
It's not the worst MS have done but it smells lync framework and MS changing buttons back and forth is getting annoying!
 

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Oh no, I hate rounded corners. The sharp corners were the one thing I really liked about W10 over W7 when it comes to the UI.
 
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LTT always does things in fuckaround complicated ways
True, but in this situation, he got the job done....

It would seem there's another way to do it.
Upgrading from a Win10 install is supposed to work on bare hardware, which I'm going to try right now. I'll keep you all posted if you wish...

Does 11 spy on me more or less ? Thats my only concern.
Don't know yet. I will be looking at those aspects of the current version of 11.

Oh no, I hate rounded corners. The sharp corners were the one thing I really liked about W10 over W7 when it comes to the UI.
Can't disagree nor with you there. The rounded, organic look of Windows 7 is one of the things I loved about it.
 
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Can't disagree nor with you there. The rounded, organic look of Windows 7 is one of the things I loved about it.
Agreed, rounded edges is more aesthetically pleasing IMO
 
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Well, this didn't take long...
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Looks like we'll have to wait for the beta ISO's to hit. Hopefully Microsoft devs will remove this dumbass nonsense...

@Microsoft
Please note, the option to use TPM & SecureBoot should ALWAYS be the choice of the user, not a requirement. The reason is very simple, each of those "features" can and do cause a great many problems for ease of use. Most people do NOT need such features. This crap is a deal breaker! Make it a choice, not a requirement.
 
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Well, this didn't take long...
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Looks like we'll have to wait for the beta ISO's to hit. Hopefully Microsoft devs will remove this dumbass nonsense...

@Microsoft
Please note, the option to use TPM & SecureBoot should ALWAYS be the choice of the user, not a requirement. The reason is very simple, each of those "features" can and do cause a great many problems for ease of use. Most people do NOT need such features. This crap is a deal breaker! Make it a choice, not a requirement.
TPM is important for security, I believe that it may have been an error on their part because once W11 is installed it's not required any more. It's also not requred or used when installed in a VM.
 
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TPM is important for security
For environments that need that level of security, perhaps. MOST people and Windows user do not need such, nor do they need SecureBoot.
I believe that it may have been an error on their part because once W11 is installed it's not required any more. It's also not requred or used when installed in a VM.
Good points. It's likely is a programmatical error.
 
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For environments that need that level of security, perhaps. MOST people and Windows user do not need such, nor do they need SecureBoot.

Good points. It likely is a programmatical error.
A friend of mine just copied whole Sources folder from W10 ISO to W11 ISO and installed without problem. What I did was to install W11 in a VM, make full disk backup and restored it to an empty SSD.
My MB, an Asus prime x470 pro does have TPM module built in however it was set to use a descrete TPM module (external to MB) and not to internal, built in, firmware module. Now when set as FW it should install without problem.
 
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MS is so insecure, like a teenage copycat. They have the most mature, best OS in the world but they keep leading it like a sheep would lead a lion. With W8 they were trying to make it a mobile, touch operated OS, faking an iOS and Android with their stores. Now they're trying to downgrade it to a macOS. Seems like it will follow the rule that every 2nd release sucks.
Every 2nd? It seems that every release since 7 has sucked or was really meh. I wonder if there will ever be times when Microsoft actually makes an OS that people like to use.
 
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How To Install Windows 11 (androidsage.com)

"Initially, users found out the leaked Windows 11 ISO would only install on Virtualbox. Looks like the ISO was designed that way. Installation on barebone hardware was not possible. However, it is now possible to create a bootable ISO file by tweaking some files."
 
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I prefer just a simple start menu.

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That's why I use linux.

Microsoft is a monopoly and should be regulated. I find it quite disconcerting that Amazon, Apple, Facebook, and Google were recently listed by quite a few members of Congress as monopolies(a little later to the party ?), but Microsoft wasn't on the list. This company...starting with Windows 10 is the biggest offender?

Hell...If linux wasn't there...I'd use OS/2.

:),

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Same.

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I know I'll get used to whatever they vomit up, but Microsoft's 'change for the sake of change' has gotten really old.
For me personally, Linux looks way too flat. It looks like it's trying to be modern with an OS feel that resembles Windows 2000. I just cant do it.

And it's overly complicated for my liking.
 
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How To Install Windows 11 (androidsage.com)

"Initially, users found out the leaked Windows 11 ISO would only install on Virtualbox. Looks like the ISO was designed that way. Installation on barebone hardware was not possible. However, it is now possible to create a bootable ISO file by tweaking some files."
Once TPU issue is solved, I assure you it installs barebone and runs fine. One runaround for TPM issue is to copy Sources folder from W10 iso to FAT32 USB with ISO contents from W11.
I'm just about to upgrade my W10 Insider Dev to W11.
 
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