X800 fuses data for unlocking

[twiple]

That would explain when I received my Retail Connect3D X800 GTO the static bag was open and a new piece of tape was applied. I was ready to RMA on this fact alone feeling the product was used. I still have time, but it still a good card comming from a ATI 9600 pro.

I've been thinking the same thing. The static bag my card came in (from newegg) appeared to have been factory packaged, however, there was a yellow sticker used to seal the bag where there were pieces left from an older seal. I too was ready to RMA for having received what appeared to be a used card... Chances are the RMA would end up being a waste of time and money...

 

[curiousg]

I've been thinking the same thing. The static bag my card came in (from newegg) appeared to have been factory packaged, however, there was a yellow sticker used to seal the bag where there were pieces left from an older seal. I too was ready to RMA for having received what appeared to be a used card... Chances are the RMA would end up being a waste of time and money...

Yeah same place here, with same yellow sticker. The only reason why I didn't RMA then was I had made the jump from a AGP motherboard to PCIE on 754 socket platform. I had the AGP Saph X800 GTO, lot of artifacts no overclockability, The performance gain from this card is much better. I couldnt find a better way to be stuck. Besides the $179.00 and $25 rebate makes this a no brainer.

 

[twiple]

The chances of receiving a slower cored R480 also stop me from RMA. However, with 30 days to watch and decide, I'll be looking to see if it's just a small batch that isn't unlockable... maybe just the batch with the $25 rebate.

 

[Dega]

Hmm after reading that test on those 50 cards i think im outta luck... i was thinking of sending it back and getting a replacement but it seems it will only be a waste of money.

What do you guys think? send it back and PRAY that i get a moddable card or just be happy with what i got ?

 

[noneed4me2]

unless you plan on trying again elswhere i wouldn't count on getting a moddable card from the same place. Most retailers i would think would rotate old stock out. Be happy is good too cause the x800 GTO is still an awesome card for the price. Its hella cool.

 

[introstand]

I have a HIS x800gt. AtiTool says R423.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFF9FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x862
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x19940

I it possible for me to unlock any pipelines? I have 8 active at the moment...

Do I really have to remove the fan i check the core? Is there any help if I tell you that the max core was 609 and mem 603 using AtiTool?

 

[grengy009]

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x861
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x227A4

connect3d x850 pro agp moddable?

 

[l33t_c0w]

Connect3d 3038

If I were to look at my chip, I'm assuming that I would find a laser cut that according to this thread will change the CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES to 0xFFFFF71F if I rejoin. So why are these cards still being stated as unlockable? Is it a function of stability with the extra pipes or are the extra pipes completely locked away through something other than the laser cut?

Thirded.

It sounds like bridging the cut should allow the bios flash. But Stilt said that didn't work, I thought. Would any of the more knowledgable people feel like explaining how it works? I'm intensely curious now...

On another note, I'm considering RMAing this card and getting a sapphire gto2. Would anything be wrong with trying to RMA a card that I failed to flash twice and had overclocked for a short period of time? (i just was running the test on atitool out of a sort of "watch the numbers go up" interest. aborted when it got above 70 C)

 

[ShadowFlare]

Thirded.

It sounds like bridging the cut should allow the bios flash. But Stilt said that didn't work, I thought. Would any of the more knowledgable people feel like explaining how it works? I'm intensely curious now...

On another note, I'm considering RMAing this card and getting a sapphire gto2. Would anything be wrong with trying to RMA a card that I failed to flash twice and had overclocked for a short period of time? (i just was running the test on atitool out of a sort of "watch the numbers go up" interest. aborted when it got above 70 C)

If you do, then make sure you go back to the original bios.

 

[Pussycat]

Hi there!

My card is a Sapphire X800 GTO PCIe. Core is R480 (printed on the chip and reported by ATITool). I didn't see a lasercut when I took off the cooler, but I didn't really look for it either.

Information:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES: 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES: 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT: 0x227A4

It overclocks to 500/540 without artifacts, but not much further.

So ist's not moddable. But what if I reconnect the lasercut (if it's there...)? Will that allow flashing? So far I haven't read anything final on that and Stilt didn't say anything about it either.

 

[genijalcin@23]

Hi...

I have a PowerColor X800GT eng. sample...I tried to flash X850 XT BIOS, but still i got 8 pipes. Any chance of getting 12 pipelines or maybe 16?

 

[dolf]

Roberto72 and ShadowFlare your deductions about the meaning of the fuses have to be correct .
On the cores with 8 and 12 pipes not always one and the same pipe quads are disabled and it is indisputable fact.

Usually the bad or not so good quads are eliminated by cutting of the power supply in certain points (I presume that it is a "pilot" power supply for the quads).

From my experience with these (R4XX) cores I can say that there is number of different power managing electric circuits (at minimum 3 different voltages coming from the AGP /PCIX/ and the board). Here is not included the main core-power supply. I think that these voltages are operationl for the main power supply. But it is not very important because we can't reconnect the already cutted parts from the back side of the core. We can just comment the results :shadedshu .

One more thing on the cores with laser cuts (R420, R423) the fuse format is different than on those without laser cuts.
On R480 is always clear how many pipes you can have looking the registers.

But on R420, R423 we have to take care about the laser cut on the right especially because it seems that almost all cores can work with 12 pipes. I think that could be interesting for the owners of such cards.

 

[introstand]

Canb somebody just tell me if there is anything I can do with my card.

HIS x800gt, R423

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFF9FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x862
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x19940

 

[dolf]

Introstand your core should be R480 not R423 (looking fuses). The only thing that you can do is to see it (remove the cooler) and if it is R480 to flash with BIOS for R480. No additional pipes are possible if the core is R480 (it should be R480) but by flashing with R480 BIOS you can gain additional performance with your 8 pipes.

 

[ThePhased]

unless you plan on trying again elswhere i wouldn't count on getting a moddable card from the same place. Most retailers i would think would rotate old stock out. Be happy is good too cause the x800 GTO is still an awesome card for the price. Its hella cool.

Yeah thats my feeling too. This card overclocks very well in my small confined Antec Aria case. I am more than happy with this card even though i couldnt get the 16pipes. It is worlds better than my ati 9700.

But i do have to ask you if it really is "hella cool" because you seem so cal to me..your in san bernardino right? I use hella, but im hella nor cal. Well I guess im central cal now, since im in monterey.

 

[noneed4me2]

Just a little South Park reference. I have family in North Cal (Oroville) and all the way up to Ashlen Oregon (unsure spelling) I benched my card before mod and was up to 5200+ in 3dmark05, it really is a great card for the price. Plays Doom 3 and Half Life 2 no problem ANd is a good holdover till I upgrade to x1000 class gpu, which will probably be a year or more. My kids just love all the new games they can play. My 4 year old just loves fps's and can play Halo without cheats now. Whats funny i remember researching cards and alot of reviews said Halo couldn't be playable with eyecandy on, on anything below radeon 9600xt. on my old intel board p3 1.2ghz 512mb ram i had an AIW Radeon 32mb, one of the first that came out. I played Halo fine on lower settings but wanted to play it with a DX9 card so i got a Powercolor 9550se 128mb(64bit instead of 128bit interface) for 40 bucks and set all the features high at 1024/768 and it played great. It was only when I got my new PC that i wanted something semi kickass, so i researched everything ,went with PCIe and AMD 64 939 for future proofing, and decided to get a midrange card. Nothing wrong with Nvidia but i have used Radeons for so long decided to stay with what worked for me. I almost got the Powercolor x800gt as no place had GTO2s at a reasonable price (200 and below was my price limit). Saw the 12 pipe C3D GTO at Tigerdirect for a little more and went with that. I didn't even know the card was moddable till after I got it, being new (noob)to the forums. I have learned alot since upgrading, as i would have gotten a 9600np instead of the 9550se. I am not new to PCs, have built a few in the past for friends and family, but so much has changed since i started on my old Commodore 64 (first PC was a IBM 486 model i still have)

 

[grengy009]

is my card moddable? back on pg 54? plz sum1 help me i really wana get 4 pipelines

 

[noneed4me2]

grengy009 im not a pro on the fuse data but it sure looks close to moddable to me, and th agp ones seem to mod pretty well do a search on that card in the forum to see which bios to use. You might want to check your core to.

 

[chris]

Sapphire X800GTO 256MB DDR3@samsung 1.6ns

Any idea if i can mod my card to run on 16pipelines?
My gpu uses R480 core which manage to work at 550core/590memory without any crashed on stock cooling.
Help~~~!

 

[Roberto72]

But on R420, R423 we have to take care about the laser cut on the right especially because it seems that almost all cores can work with 12 pipes. I think that could be interesting for the owners of such cards.

The card I have is a MSI x800se so with 8 pipelines (2 pipelinequads).
org.:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFF39FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x22
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x19940

after flash with x800pro non vivo bios
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFF39FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x20
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x19940

After reconnecting lasercut + bios flash
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFF39FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x20
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x19940

My card is now recognised as a x800xt (4A4B) but still 8 pipelines.

 

[Stilt]

It seems that ATI has castrated the X850 Pro Vivo cards too...
Just tested one ("made" by Asus) and it seems that the second quad of pipelines is disabled internally. Substrate fuses show that there also lasercut(s). The card has Samsung 1.6ns chips and R480 core.

I removed the heatsink and it seems that there is actually three lasercuts?
I compared it with my X850XT Platinum, and the X850 Pro has much darker spots on the substrate than the X850XT. It looks like X850XT has copper on those spots and the X850 Pro spots has been "dugged" out.

I´ll post a picture from the gpu at monday.

 

[madasahatter]

Can i mod or do summin wiv the Powercolor PCI-e X800GT 256mb version...and if so will i need to get a different cooler or is the stock 1 fine?
Sorry i dont know how to upload pics.

Device ID 554B
Chip type R423
Active pipes 8
Defualt GPU clock 475.00
" Mem clock 490.00
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF9FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x860
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x19940

Reverence divider currently at :14 Min step = 1.93mhz

 

[ShadowFlare]

Canb somebody just tell me if there is anything I can do with my card.

HIS x800gt, R423

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFF9FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x862
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x19940

Introstand your core should be R480 not R423 (looking fuses). The only thing that you can do is to see it (remove the cooler) and if it is R480 to flash with BIOS for R480. No additional pipes are possible if the core is R480 (it should be R480) but by flashing with R480 BIOS you can gain additional performance with your 8 pipes.

If you do look at it and it is R480, then go here for what dolf was referring to: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6056

Can i mod or do summin wiv the Powercolor PCI-e X800GT 256mb version...and if so will i need to get a different cooler or is the stock 1 fine?
Sorry i dont know how to upload pics.

Device ID 554B
Chip type R423
Active pipes 8
Defualt GPU clock 475.00
" Mem clock 490.00
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF9FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x860
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x19940

Reverence divider currently at :14 Min step = 1.93mhz

It doesn't look like your card will have any more than 8 pipelines. Your card most definately does have an R480 chip, so look here for a different kind of performance boost: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6056

 

[REDDOG]

Fuse data on3dconnect x800gto

Im showing no fuse data on my card with ati tool why is that?...I just wanted to say thanks for the 9500 to 9700 softmod been using it for years...worked great gave me more life out of my card....Just recently upgraded to 64-3200 with a 3dconnect x800gto trying to mod it cant seem to get floppy to boot first. It gives me a command A> what do you after that?Im sorry newbie here at card flashing....I change it to boot first but the cd light comes on before floppy light does hmmmmm....I dont know followed flash instructions...Appreciate anyones help...........

 

[REDDOG]

Ya wizzard underneath where it says amount of pipelines theres no fuse data maybe i should reinstall ati tool...I dunno...