X800 fuses data for unlocking

[ShadowFlare]

Stilt: thanks for that, I flashed with -f and I've now got 16 pipes. Sweet...

ShadowFlare: just to confirm, but is your flash the modded X850 one and not "just" a X800? And would there be any benefits in replacing the one i just upgraded to with yours? In the long run (well a few nights) I hope to test the card at X850 PE speeds and permanently apply that speed though the custom modd if it works.

Thanks!

There were differences in the bios W1zzard posted, but I don't know what effects those differences would have, besides the obvious one that makes it not show up with the GTO in the name. The bios I used should be exactly like the one your card had, but just modded to 16 pipelines, unlike the one W1zzard posted. So if you want to have the exact same bios your card originally had, but just modded to 16 pipes, use the bios I posted.

BTW, I also posted a newer revision of that bios in a post that is not far above the other.

 

[Shocktaught]

Okay here's mine. HIS ICQ X800 Pro standard (non-vivo) with 2ns mem. GPU doesn't have laser cut. This is an early model I bought in Sep of '04.

 

[ShadowFlare]

Okay here's mine. HIS ICQ X800 Pro standard (non-vivo) with 2ns mem. GPU doesn't have laser cut. This is an early model I bought in Sep of '04.

View attachment 1244

It looks like the bios is already set to 16 pipelines, so since there's no laser cut either, you probably aren't going to get 16 pipelines.

 

[Shocktaught]

It looks like the bios is already set to 16 pipelines, so since there's no laser cut either, you probably aren't going to get 16 pipelines.

Yeah, it's only showing 12 pipes. I'm still using the stock BIOS, never flashed it. If the BIOS is already set to 16 what would be keeping the card from using those pipes?

VVVVVVV
I just took the silencer off and cleaned it *cough*cough* this weekend and put some fresh Artic Silver 5 on it. So yeah, no laser cut. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to get another card on down the road.

 

[ShadowFlare]

Yeah, it's only showing 12 pipes. I'm still using the stock BIOS, never flashed it. If the BIOS is already set to 16 what would be keeping the card from using those pipes?

So you've taken off the heatsink and looked at it, and you are completely sure it has no laser cut? If that's the case, then it probably is one like dolf has mentioned that has the cut on the back where it is inaccessible. He has stated that in those cases, it is there to disable some bad pipes.


BTW, this made me think of another point: when ATI releases the R580, which will be able to be put into a socket by the end-user, I wonder what they will do for locking pipelines? In that case, both sides will be exposed.

 

[noneed4me2]

Shadowflare, i know this is off topic but i noticed in your system specs you list xp pro and xp 64, do you have a dual boot system? if yes are you running them on seperate drives? I have an old system with win98 and win2000, so i have some experience with this kind of setup, but this done on one drive with seperate partitions and i am itching to try out xp 64 but my wife doesn't want me experiment with a new operating system and risk causing excessive downtime. I would rather use 2 seperate drives one for games, movies, encoding and such, and the other for household stuff like finances and homework.

 

[68Olds]

Connect3d x850Pro VIVO

I got a new card installed today & checked the fuses. My new Connect3d x850Pro VIVO cannot be modded to 16 pipes per the fuses. It also has 2.0ns ram instead of 1.6ns. I think the R481 core will overclock well, even if it is only 12 pipes.

 

[ShadowFlare]

Shadowflare, i know this is off topic but i noticed in your system specs you list xp pro and xp 64, do you have a dual boot system? if yes are you running them on seperate drives? I have an old system with win98 and win2000, so i have some experience with this kind of setup, but this done on one drive with seperate partitions and i am itching to try out xp 64 but my wife doesn't want me experiment with a new operating system and risk causing excessive downtime. I would rather use 2 seperate drives one for games, movies, encoding and such, and the other for household stuff like finances and homework.

Yes, I do have it on a second drive, but I haven't really used it much yet. I got it basically almost free (legally, not pirated), so I don't really care if it barely gets used. Part of why I don't use it regularly is that I can't use my TV Wonder Pro or Remote Wonder II with it (no drivers from ATI yet).

BTW, next time for off topic things like this, just start a new thread somewhere and if you want a response from me, just send me a private message with the link to it.

 

[noneed4me2]

thanks shadowflare

 

[seewhy]

Hey ShadowFlare. could you mod my bios to enable 16 pipes please?




View attachment c3dorig.zip

 

[noneed4me2]

seewhy, your card is very interesting as most of the newer ones coming out seem to be locked in a way other than lazer cut. Looking at your fuses it may be possible with a hard mod (reconnect lazer cut)and then a bios flash. Dolf has been experimenting alot with this type of scenario so maybe talking to him will give you a better idea of what to do. Your bios definately has the pipe lock but your lack of an e might indicate that the pipes might still be functional. Where did you get this card and when if i might ask.

 

[noneed4me2]

Seewhy, check this thread out as this card will probably fall into this category because of your pro chip. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=369 By the way your the first i have seen with a card like this and may have one of the rarest version of C3D GTO out yet. heres the original article
you http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/10

 

[manoloxxl]

Hi, it seem´s that i have same question like Nganasan but more Informations .

Recently became an owner of sapphire X800GT 256MB AGP with 2.0 RAM.
ATItool show that it's R420 & this is the core:

This is fuses data about my card:

Question: Is it bad news or good news?

 

[Timoteo]

I have the same core R420 x800se but afther flahing with a moded bios nothing change still 8pipes, but you can oc very well up to 500/500 if u want no problem, and i don't think i will do the hard mod bcause i dont know if it will work.... so prefer to keep like this.... by the way...

 

[manoloxxl]

@Timoteo
Thank you. With "HardMod" you mean to connect the lasercut? If ist don´t open the Pipes you can remove the silver i´ve readed in german forums.

 

[MeisterEder]

ati tool gives following information about my sapphire x800 gt AGP:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF33FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFE9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x22
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x31344

... further... 8 active pipes.. as any other non-modded x800 gt

i can set clock to 580/520 think this is pretty good..

to my questions:

u think i can activate 12 or even 16 pipes?
where the hell do u know from wether pipes can be activated or not..?

thx..

 

[dolf]

Guys connect the RIGHT bridge on your cores. Do the fuse research again and post your results in order to collect information what happens with the registers after the connection.
Flash with MODIFIED flashrom using the following command line: flashrom -f -p 0 biosname.bin

To affirm the successfull flashing look the fuses again. Your CONFIG_ROM_FUSES should be changed (example: from 0x22 = 8 pipes to 0x21 = 12 pipes or 0x20 = 16 pipes depending on the flashed BIOS). If after flashing you still have 0x22 it means that you haven't use modified flashrom and the number of pipes remains until next flash with the proper tool .

It is possible some of you to be so lucky to have even 16 pipes after connection of the right bridge. It can be "reported" by the fuses.

 

[manoloxxl]

Thank you dolf. You mean, i´ve to do in this order:

1.) load BIOS from card and post it here.

2.) connect like on this picture

3.) make a screenshot from ATItool and post it here

4.) flash the modified BIOS 12x wich someone here maybe moded me and check if everything is ok
4a.) flash the modified BIOS 16x wich someone here maybe moded me and check if everything is ok

5.) check config_r... in ATItool

6.) enjoy

7.) donate this forum


Right?

 

[MeisterEder]

k.. lets try

will report any results

 

[cLy_eVo]

So you've taken off the heatsink and looked at it, and you are completely sure it has no laser cut? If that's the case, then it probably is one like dolf has mentioned that has the cut on the back where it is inaccessible. He has stated that in those cases, it is there to disable some bad pipes.


BTW, this made me think of another point: when ATI releases the R580, which will be able to be put into a socket by the end-user, I wonder what they will do for locking pipelines? In that case, both sides will be exposed.

i think they are thinking of releasing different type of r5xx for the high, med and low end graphic card. that will increase manufacturing cost and we'll pay for that.

 

[Stilt]

Again there is one GTO model to be added in unmoddable list.

Asus EAX800GTO 256MB PCI-Express:

PCB: X800XL (with Fairchild VDDR regulator chips).
Core: R430
Memory: Samsung 2.0ns

There are no visible lasercuts on the substrate, so they must be underneath the gpu.
The second pipeline quad is disabled in die.

It seems that R423 gpus with "KAGA12F" are all unmoddable.
All Connect3D GTOs that were unlockable had "JAGA12F" code etched on them.

 

[dolf]

Thank you dolf. You mean, i´ve to do in this order:

1.) load BIOS from card and post it here.

2.) connect like on this picture

3.) make a screenshot from ATItool and post it here

4.) flash the modified BIOS 12x wich someone here maybe moded me and check if everything is ok
4a.) flash the modified BIOS 16x wich someone here maybe moded me and check if everything is ok

5.) check config_r... in ATItool

6.) enjoy

7.) donate this forum


Right?

Absolutely correct but don't forget to flash using modified flashrom (from here: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100). If you succeed with 12 pipes and your left bridge is originally disconnected you can go further for 16 pipes by connecting it also. The chance for 16 pipes is close to 0 but there is always some. Point 7 depends on you .

 

[seewhy]

It seems that R423 gpus with "KAGA12F" are all unmoddable.
All Connect3D GTOs that were unlockable had "JAGA12F" code etched on them.

hey, it's kinda true.
ohwell, that sucks

By unmoddable, do you mean that even joining up the lasercut doesn't work?

seewhy, your card is very interesting as most of the newer ones coming out seem to be locked in a way other than lazer cut. Looking at your fuses it may be possible with a hard mod (reconnect lazer cut)and then a bios flash. Dolf has been experimenting alot with this type of scenario so maybe talking to him will give you a better idea of what to do. Your bios definately has the pipe lock but your lack of an e might indicate that the pipes might still be functional. Where did you get this card and when if i might ask.

Thanks for your reply! I got my card through a local promotion for $329, which is around US$193.
I've also read through the threads you provided me. So far, nothing conclusive there either.

 

[seewhy]

Thank you dolf. You mean, i´ve to do in this order:


2.) connect like on this picture

Strange, my laser cut is on the left of the big circle, but yours is on the right

 

[MeisterEder]

Strange, my laser cut is on the left of the big circle, but yours is on the right

as far as i understood does the position of the cut depend on which pipe-quad is deactivated.. if both are deactivated.. i think only one is cut off by laser cut.. the other any other way..

..perhaps only by bios?? dont know..