X800 fuses data for unlocking

[james_k1988]

Newcomer

Hey guys,

First off my system spec is as follows:

Athlon 3200+ (939)
3G of PC3200 RAM
MSI 200XPRESS mobo

and most importantly - HIS X800 GTO

(it is the same card as the one at the top of this page http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/X800PCI_Series.html , the BIG one lol )

Story goes, i learned that alot of the X800's could be flashed from 12 pipes to 16. I know how important pipelines are so i investigated. I ended up getting a program off the overclockers forum to do this, which involved booting from cd and basically chooseing from

Unlock 16 pipes , Rollback to 12

Some of you may know of it. Anyway wasnt till after i done this i found out that it was ment for the GTO2 , Regardless it said it was successfull. The computer reads the card as a X850xt (even had to install new drivers) but i checked and the pipe's were still at 12. I thought this was strange and before i went to mess it up more i thought it would be wise to consult you guys . From what i read in the forum you need the information for ATITool which i have attached to this message. Could you guys tell me if the card can be unlocked to 16, and if not is it ok to keep at as it is (reading as a X850) because i cant seem to get the old one back, i tried roling back through the flash but wasnt forgoing. And if it cant be unlocked is there any Bios file on this site that may help performance? As i see there is afew. I am new to this unlocking thing and want to learn so please bear with me

Thanks

 

[infrared]

hmmm, we've seen a few fuses like that, but it generally indicates the last quad can't be unlocked on the second line of fuse data, you will notice that there is an E at the end. If that had been an F you'd be able to unlock it. Sorry

On another note, how does the card perform now it's a 12-pipe x850xt?

 

[james_k1988]

aa guttin :shadedshu

lol awell,you win some you lose some. Might be able to get a crossfire board and link it and another card together when i get cash lol

Yea about the way it runs. Well when i frist done it i did notice a slight performance increase. The FPS on one of my games (WOW) seemed a few bits higher. So i decided to keep it there but today the cards performance (on WOW) seems quite poor. the FPS seems to be plummeting at times where it didnt before.Running pretty bad Thats why i was asking about mybye one of the bios updates on this site. Mybye they could help increase the performance. Any bios updates there for a unlockable X800? and any way to get it back to a normal X800 instead of the X850? incase thats causeing the poor performance


*EDIT* To get you a straight answear i went and played for ages tonight, keeping an eye on the fps. It is definetly worse. In some areas alot worse.And im guessing the "upgrade" to X850 has something to do with it. So i'm going to have to get it back. Any ideas? Again if there is a updated Bios file for my card (Not to unlock anything, just a normal bios update) i can put that on, and that should restore it ( i saw one ATIFLASH 3.0.9 , what does that do, update the bios?) Hey if ya dont ask you dont learn

 

[Carlz0r]

Connect3d X800GTO flashed to 16 pipes

 

[cobrax3]

There's one called 'winflash' in the downloads section It's not advised to flash from windows, but if your computer's stable and doesn't randomly freeze, you should be fine!

Cobrax3:

I gave up on Vmodding my x800, i got the voltage up from 1.4v to 1.45v, I managed to sqeeze another 10mhz out of the core, but the temps were up significantly, and i think it was this that restricted the card. I'll try again when i get the ATI silencer on it, but i'm thinking i might just do a VR mod rather than getting annoyed trying to bridge a gap with graphite that won't stick to the pcb.

The temperatures went from 62c to 70c without anything to show for it!

The article's here if you'd like to have a go:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/voltmods/112

My advice though is to simply stick one of the arctic coolers on it, and see what happens then!
http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=61

75C is too high? my overclocked r430 is now around 75C in full load. should i clock it down a bit? i thought 90 is high

 

[zapata z ciapas]

x800gt AGP R420

Heeeelp!
I have Sapphire Ati Radeon X800gt 256/256 AGP with R420 chip(AtiTool show me). I was changed my bios to oryginal gto bios (12 pipelines).I think this is the same card. I have removed laser cut. I was changed 4'th resistor (like gto have) And still 8 pipelines.. Why??Why??Why??

Are there some checked methods to mode the card !to 12 pipelines? What bios i need??

 

[zapata z ciapas]

is this bios an answer to my problem???

 

[gregor1230]

is this bios an answer to my problem???

As we see gto agp is the same like gt agp, but something is different and in gt only 8 pipelines. Me and zapata still fighting with this.

 

[modisch]

Just received a Connect3D X800 GTO from New Egg... I don't have pics cuz I'm at work, but this morning I ran ATI Tool and had E's where I needed F's. I don't remember which core the card has. Now I'm a little uncertain about my modding options because there are two semi-conflicting articles.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5215 says you need F's... while http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100 says any VIVO cards should be viable. The picture on the second article showing the yellow CD Audio connector matches that of my card... and the specs on New Egg list it as VIVO.

So which is definitive? The fuses or the VIVO? Can I softmod? And if I can't because there's a laser cut, is there a hardmod possible? I've seen several articles in my rampant googling indicating that X800 Pro cards can be hardmodded to X800XT. Can a similar method be used here?

And if I'm SOL for the extra 4 pipes, what's plan B?

Thanks for your help.

 

[infrared]

75C is too high? my overclocked r430 is now around 75C in full load. should i clock it down a bit? i thought 90 is high

75c is fine, but my card just doesn't seem to like running fast at that temperature. I'm still waiting for my new arctic cooler

 

[TazzMania]

Sapphirre X800 GTO 256 AGP w/430 Chip

Here is my ATI Tool screen , looking to see if the bios on this card can be flashed.

Looked through the thread and got lost in the debate on if it is possible or not....thanks in advance for your help.

 

[tsaMolotoff]

Can anybody HELP me??????????

What should I do for unlocking?

 

[dolf]

Here is my ATI Tool screen , looking to see if the bios on this card can be flashed.

Looked through the thread and got lost in the debate on if it is possible or not....thanks in advance for your help.

Lucky you . Probably Sapphire has finished all 12 pipe cores and for Xmas they delivered to you 16 pipes enabled core . Just use Modified flashrom (it is important, don't miss it) use XL or modded BIOS (your original BIOS modded to 16 pipes).

Success

 

[gregor1230]

Dolf and what about r420 on x800gt agp version. Have you ever cheard if somebody unlocked this card to 12 pipelines??

 

[peta01]

Here is my ATI Tool screen , looking to see if the bios on this card can be flashed.

Looked through the thread and got lost in the debate on if it is possible or not....thanks in advance for your help.

These are not pure "X800GTO". Your card is just repacked X800XL with flashed bios. Some companies sell these as X800GTO16, but it seemes that Sapphire again supprised us with something "new".
Try to search your PCB or core for some evidences, that this one is X800XL. But I am not right, then this one is the first unlockable R430 seen on TechPowerUp.

 

[Stelmacher]

IT is an HIS X800 GT (R423)

HI, im firsttime here,
I flashed the card with bios from ati, sapphire, club3d, powercolor, asus
x800 xt, pro and xt pe versions...
it still stays on 8 pipelines
so I gone back to the original bios

And Now ?
Did I have a chance to lock the other pipes?

Sorry about my english
Greetings from Germany

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Grafikkarte ATI Radeon X800 SE PCI-E (R423)
GPU Codename R423
PCI-Geräte 1002 / 554B
Transistoren 160 Mio.
Fertigungstechnologie 0.13u
Bustyp PCI Express x16 @ x16
Speichergröße 256 MB
GPU Takt 472 MHz (Original: 475 MHz)
RAMDAC Takt 400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines 8
Textureinheiten (TMU) / Pipeline 1
Vertex Shaders 6 (v2.0)
Pixel Shaders 1 (v2.0)
DirectX Hardwareunterstützung DirectX v9.0
Pixel Fillrate 3776 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate 3776 MTexel/s

Speicherbus-Eigenschaften:
Bustyp GDDR3
Busbreite 256 Bit
Tatsächlicher Takt 493 MHz (DDR) (Original: 490 MHz)
Effektiver Takt 986 MHz
Bandbreite 30.8 GB/s

Speicher Timings:
CAS Latency (CL) 7T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 7T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 6T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 14T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 27T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 5T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 7T

 

[bronze]

I guess im in the same boat here as TazzMania



EDIT: this is a Sapphire Radeon X800GTO AGP

 

[Fridulin]

What must say the program fpor the x700se that i can enable the other piplines. Please Help me. Greetings

 

[dolf]

I guess im in the same boat here as TazzMania

Yes you also can have 16 pipes with just BIOS flashing with (16 pipe BIOS) using modified flashrom !!!

Please tell us the PN of your PCB (top front side of the card).

 

[dolf]

Dolf and what about r420 on x800gt agp version. Have you ever cheard if somebody unlocked this card to 12 pipelines??

To be honest with you I will say that X800GT AGP in fact is the good old SE. I compare the BIOSes of GT and SE and guess what - they are absolutely equal with one little exception GT and SE sufix.

Let's back to your question whether is possible to mod such card to 12 pipes my answer will be YES. (Probably some cards will work with 16 pipes also). Just connect right bridge (further you can continue with the left - if it is disconnected) and flash with X800PRO BIOS using modified flashrom!!! . Post your fuse results and the number of the pipes after flashing .

Success

 

[Stelmacher]

Hi,
I posted:
IT is an HIS X800 GT (R423)

But now I get off the cooler and..
It is an R480

What do you think about that?

And what is this??

Can anybody help me?

 

[josechow]

I just got my Connect3d Radeon x800gto 256mb the other day and these are the gpu specs

Core R423
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 400mhz
Default Mem Clock 490mhz
Config_die_fuses 0xEFF37FFF
Confid_substrate_fuses 0xFFFFF71E

and here is an image of the core

I kind of see that it isn't modable to 16 pipelines, but I knew that was a possibility before buying the card. I would like to know what the advantages are of flashing the bios anyway.

And on the topic of overclocking, im not completely certain that I want to overclock the card right now and run the risk of burning something. I have had bad experience with overclocking my older Sapphire radeon 9600xt and it has left me in a state of constant paranoia. lol. Any comments appreciated

 

[zapata z ciapas]

dolf, i have your moded bios ( 16 pipelines) in my card.Still 8 pipelines, laser cut "disabled" and i have still CONFIG_ROM_FUSES= 0x22 . Why???

 

[zapata z ciapas]

Now i use command "flashrom -p 0 sapphire_X800GT_R420_AGP_16p.bin -f -newbios"

STILL 8 PIPELINES CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x20 ??

 

[gygabite]

Hi!
i dont know how to put the sreenshot into the posts but here are the fuses from my
powercolor game-fx x850xt pciex nonvivo:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x460
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x3FE4