Sunday, May 5th 2019

Samsung Kills Production of Famed B-die DDR4 Memory in Favor or Higher Densities

As the world becomes more and more centered on data, as well as its processing and storage, increased memory density across products is becoming more of a necessity. It seems that out of this necessity and a need to streamline its memory production towards favoring denser outputs, Samsung is killing of the famous B-die chips, which were - and still are - part of a love affair with any enthusiast's Ryzen desktop.

Memory compatibility issues with the first gen Ryzen took a while to dissipate, and didn't vanish entirely; however, overclockers quickly found that the most stable and overclockable memory ICs all were of the Samsung B-die type. Now, the company has updated its product catalogue to reflect EOL (End of Life) status for B-dies, replacing it with denser M-Die and A-Die products. M-dies were supposed to bring 32 GB densities to a single rank of memory - and have apparently been siphoned off to server applications and left out in the cold for consumer purchase), while the new A dies increase memory density per IC, meaning less of these are necessary to achieve the same final memory footprint. Whether or not these will feature the same Ryzen compatibility and overclockability as their B-die predecessors is unknown at this point, but it would make a lot of enthusiasts slightly unhappy - and increase the value of B-die offerings in any sort of discerning second-hand market - if they did not.
Sources: Tom's Hardware, Samsung Product Catalog
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30 Comments on Samsung Kills Production of Famed B-die DDR4 Memory in Favor or Higher Densities

#26
Gasaraki
RH92In US maybe but in EU they are not cheap at all !
If you want the best, you have to willing to pay for it. If the extra tight timings are useless to you, then buy the cheap stuff. The got the TridentX 3400 14-14-14-32 timing B-dies and you'll never see my complaining about how much I paid for that. Most people would be fine with 3200 16-18-18-38 memory.
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#27
RH92
GasarakiIf you want the best, you have to willing to pay for it. If the extra tight timings are useless to you, then buy the cheap stuff. The got the TridentX 3400 14-14-14-32 timing B-dies and you'll never see my complaining about how much I paid for that. Most people would be fine with 3200 16-18-18-38 memory.
Sure but what is the relation with my post ??? I was replying to dj-electric who was saying that you can find cheap b-die kits ( wich is true for the US but not EU ) .........
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#28
Manu_PT
NdMk2o1oWho said it was meant to be impressive, everyone knows your agenda, go beat your drum somewhere else.
He made it seem like having hynix at 3466 cl 16 was a big deal. B dies reach way better performance.

If anything, this can affect potential zen 2 max performance.
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#29
LAN_deRf_HA
trparkyIs there really a difference between CAS14 and CAS16? Why I ask is that you can get DDR4-3200 RAM at a pretty decent price these days but they're all CAS16 modules, if you want CAS14 modules be prepared to pay through the nose for it. So I figure that Samsung is discontinuing the B-Die modules because most people aren't willing to pay the CAS14 price premium when you can get CAS16 stuff all day long at half the cost.
Depends on your needs. If you're pushing high frame rates you'll occasionally run into a game that's sensitive enough to memory speed to get a large performance gain, maybe 20+fps in a F1 title, BUT for most games at 60 fps we're talking a difference of 0.1-0.5 fps. Its similar with productivity apps, if you have a long job and the app is sensitive you could see a notable time reduction gain but again these are very specific situations.
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#30
Totally
kastriotWhen samsung will kill overpriced ddr4?
Pretty sure this move is a defib to the chest in the ER for high prices that were supposedly hemmoraghing. Prices were down for like a couple weeks.
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