Vayra86Hey look, we're not buying and prices drop. How would've thunk it

AquinusSounds like it's about time for a natural disaster or an unexpected loss of power. :laugh:

Vayra86Hey look, we're not buying and prices drop. How would've thunk it

nguyentime to get some cheap NVME drives

Count von SchwalbeActually, this could be a really good thing for SSD makers.

Now put away your pitchforks and hear me out.

Currently, a common tactic among computer users is to use a small SSD for boot, and some large HDD's for storing files. A severe oversupply and consequent price reduction could finally reduce the venerable HDD to a true sideline/niche use in the consumer space.

This could be good for the industry - higher future sales, and good for the consumer - moar cheap flash!

Count von SchwalbeActually, this could be a really good thing for SSD makers.

Now put away your pitchforks and hear me out.

Currently, a common tactic among computer users is to use a small SSD for boot, and some large HDD's for storing files. A severe oversupply and consequent price reduction could finally reduce the venerable HDD to a true sideline/niche use in the consumer space.

This could be good for the industry - higher future sales, and good for the consumer - moar cheap flash!

mahirzukic2Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. That was said many times now, it never materialised. The thing is HDDs will always be better in terms of GB/$ and that's just hard to beat. So HDDs will stick around for a long time.
Nothing wrong with that.

Count von SchwalbeActually, this could be a really good thing for SSD makers.

Now put away your pitchforks and hear me out.

Currently, a common tactic among computer users is to use a small SSD for boot, and some large HDD's for storing files. A severe oversupply and consequent price reduction could finally reduce the venerable HDD to a true sideline/niche use in the consumer space.

This could be good for the industry - higher future sales, and good for the consumer - moar cheap flash!

mahirzukic2Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. That was said many times now, it never materialised.

Testsubject01Doubtful, as well. That would break the (price)wall between consumer and enterprise marketed hardware on memory. Data centres would just start using high capacity mainstream stuff on anything non-critical to not shell out the big bucks.

WirkoConsumer stuff is what Backblaze have been using all along and that's why we can get their valuable statistics of dead HDDs. The problem is that HDDs with the most TB/$ are those in the 14-18 TB range, which is very much usable for cloud providers, while in SSDs you get the best TB/$ ratio in 2 TB 2.5" SATA drives.

Count von SchwalbeYeah, a 35% decrease will not bring it to parity. What it might do is bring it close enough that OEMs and most DIY builders don't want to have to mess with more drives than necessary, and move to a single larger SSD for home/business computers. What I am really hoping for is the death of the 2.5" HDD.

The Von MatricesThe 2.5" HDD is already dead. There has been zero innovation in the space for the past decade - no helium disks and the largest drive remains at 5TB for 12.5mm height and 2TB for 9mm height. The mainstream laptop market abandoned HDDs 5 years ago, and the last bastion of 2.5" HDDs, the desktop replacement notebook market, has done so as well now that 2+TB SSDs are close to mainstream.

R0H1TWell the other fact is more & more people are realizing they don't need that shiny new iToy, faster SSD/RAM or GPU/CPU et al every other year! And eventually this stupid (unlimited) consumption led growth model will need to end, if the earth has finite resources then you can't have infinite growth in profits/revenues etc. Though greed obviously is without bounds!