Monday, October 10th 2011

Battlefield 3 To Duke It Out With Modern Warfare 3 For Supremacy

BF3 and MW3 are both being released at nearly the same time, just a couple of weeks apart. Since they both target the same high-end gaming audience, there's going to be some very stiff competition indeed between the two games. What's interesting is the chest-beating that Patrick Liu, producer of developer DICE, is doing. He believes that BF3 will take on and make a severe dent in market share for MW3, although he admits that Activision will be hard to push aside:"From what I've seen of Modern Warfare 3 it looks great, as usual. I think we're going to put a huge dent, so to speak, in [Activision's] market, but they're a behemoth. It's not easy to move them... although I believe that we have already done that, with Battlefield 3's campaign so far. But at the same time, from a developer standpoint, we really focus on creating our own game and making the best that we can. We set the bar quite high for ourselves, and that's usually the biggest challenge for us." From the looks of it though, it looks like he wanted to set it even higher, but it would have taken too much time:"I know that the game is never actually done - we can always improve the game. We have lots of ideas on how to improve this, so if we could we would push Battlefield 3 back a year or two maybe. But that wouldn't make any sense. So the biggest challenge is really our own requirements for ourselves." Who wins the battle of the ratings remains to be seen.

Source: SPOnG
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63 Comments on Battlefield 3 To Duke It Out With Modern Warfare 3 For Supremacy

#1
MxPhenom 216
Corsair Fanboy
[H]@RD5TUFF said:
Some of us enjoy it that way, not everyone want's to play a war sim where you die 20 times before you get 1 kill, because someone is rank 50 and your only rank 3.
Was i bashing CoD? I was just making a statement:rolleyes:
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#2
[H]@RD5TUFF
nvidiaintelftw said:
Was i bashing CoD? I was just making a statement:rolleyes:
I don't believe I was calling you out, I was just expressing that not everyone wants a supper accurate ultra realistic war sim.:shadedshu
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#3
Delta6326
Personally I think the Battlefield games are better and more realistic, but I do have more fun playing the Modern Warfare games.
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#4
random
[H]@RD5TUFF said:
I don't believe I was calling you out, I was just expressing that not everyone wants a supper accurate ultra realistic war sim.:shadedshu
Just to avoid confusion here because neither cod or bf3 are ultra realistic, there is already a niche for that combat sim which is The arma series and operation flashpoint. Although BF3 is closer to real life because of it's graphics and gun play elements it really shouldnt be confused with a real military sim game.
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#5
[H]@RD5TUFF
random said:
Just to avoid confusion here because neither cod or bf3 are ultra realistic, there is already a niche for that combat sim which is The arma series and operation flashpoint. Although BF3 is closer to real life because of it's graphics and gun play elements it really shouldnt be confused with a real military sim game.
BF3 has bullet arcing and even wind can effect your bullet, COD does not. BF3 has vehicles COD does not. BF3 you actually have to work as a squad to accomplish anything most of the time in COD you do not. All of those things are far more realistic and more like a war sim than COD which is more like an arcade shooter. But that said yeah I agree arma is more of a war sim than BF.
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#7
random
[H]@RD5TUFF said:
BF3 has bullet arcing and even wind can effect your bullet, COD does not. BF3 has vehicles COD does not. BF3 you actually have to work as a squad to accomplish anything most of the time in COD you do not. All of those things are far more realistic and more like a war sim than COD which is more like an arcade shooter. But that said yeah I agree arma is more of a war sim than BF.
The only thing that makes BF3 more "realistic" than CoD is that it has deeper gameplay mechanics rather than run and gun, still doesn't come close to a war sim as you said. And another thing, you don't HAVE to work with your squad to accomplish a high K/D ratio or earn points, but you would need it to win a round.
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#8
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
random said:
The only thing that makes BF3 more "realistic" than CoD is that it has deeper gameplay mechanics rather than run and gun, still doesn't come close to a war sim as you said. And another thing, you don't HAVE to work with your squad to accomplish a high K/D ratio or earn points, but you would need it to win a round.
Wrong on your first point, bullet arcing rather than laser bullets is a huge difference. Also tomahawks from hundreds of feet away is stupid. Also you don't HAVE to work with anyone to win, most of the time you do, but I have solo Rambo led a few teams to victory.

What it comes down to to me is BF3 feels more like war. Being behind a tank when it blows up, having the explosion kill your hearing and the smoke cloud your vision, hearing other people yelling and guns firing as you run for cover. Also the fact that rotating spawn points aren't war. Wars are fought on fronts, it's why Conquest is great. (I agree on other games being more realistic, but just saying BF strikes that great compromise between realism and fake)
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#9
jmcslob
and i just wanna play the effing game the other bs can go away
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#10
Volkszorn88
COD games are the reason why every single 13 yr old twat thinks he's a pro sniper in every single FPS game.

Typical COD kid, "stfu nub, you f*cking suck. I f*cked your mom last night. I went 44-1 and you went 17-15. stfu fag."

Only in COD do people get these obscene kill streaks. And it's not because they're l33t, it's because they camped in a corner and used air strike, harrier, and chopper gunner. Their kill streaks made them go 44-1, not them.

COD is all about who has the biggest epeen killstreak. It's why demographically 13+ yrs old play COD whereas more mature and skillful players play games like CS 1.6, CSS, and BF games.

Kids don't know to function like a team, they don't have the brain power required to use team work. But this doesn't bother them, they all like being l33t lone wolves. They enjoy mindless shooting and something that is fun and easy to pick up. Activision knows this so they constantly keep dumbing down the COD games with each release.

Don't get me wrong, the COD games do a great job in playing with your emotions in the campaign. IW/Treyarch are great story tellers, but that's it.

Activision doesn't believe and have failth within their own product. They don't believe that their product has enough replay value, this is why they have to rush a new game every year. And it's true, their games don't have much replay value. Because those 13 yrs with each year get older and wiser and learn that they've been wasting their time.

Good old Activision knows this so they release a new title every year to snag the next 13 yr waiting in line.

And I want to close off by saying COD is the only game, in any genre of gaming, where peeps address new games "oh it's not cod" "oh doesn't have this/that like cod" "oh no killstreaks like cod" blah blah blah

So great games that get release that actually try to involve some sort of skill gets completely kicked off the spotlight because it's too hard, too many things to remember, has recoil, can't instant kill from across the map with any gun...etc If it's remotely hard then it's not cod and peeps should not buy it.

So developers are scared to try anything new and original and follow in the foot steps of the 800lb guerilla in the gaming market; COD.

If you haven't guessed by now, I pick BF3 over COD. Okay i'm done ranting.
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#11
eidairaman1
When I build a machine ill pick up both games. dont doubt my bros machine can run it just fine
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#12
Fx
I have both of them preordered. why choose between 2 good games. besides... they both have their own feel to them and so does Bad Company
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#13
Fx
Volkszorn88 said:
COD is all about who has the biggest epeen killstreak. It's why demographically 13+ yrs old play COD whereas more mature and skillful players play games like CS 1.6, CSS, and BF games.
this isnt true because immature kids are in every game. there are campers in every game including CS. I used to be sick of camping AWP-whores and would play on rush-only servers

its retarded to say that just because someone is better at repeatedly fragging you that they dont have skill. apparently they are killing you. sounds like you need to practice more
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#14
caleb
go go qubit with more news.
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#15
TIGR
Simply put, I think BF3 will be a higher-quality release and MW3 will easily get more sales. Like it or not, CoD has gained extraordinary momentum and is more a cultural-generational phenomenon than just a game. On that note, MW2, Black Ops, and MW3 are their own generation, distinct from my personal preference, CoD4.

I firmly believe CoD4 was and is the greatest in the Call of Duty series.

BF and CoD really do cater to distinctly different crowds, though. There will be some who play both or even switch preferences of course, but this could end up being largely a "party line vote".
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#16
caleb
Volkszorn88 said:
COD games are the reason why every single 13 yr old twat thinks he's a pro sniper in every single FPS game.

Typical COD kid, "stfu nub, you f*cking suck. I f*cked your mom last night. I went 44-1 and you went 17-15. stfu fag."

COD is all about who has the biggest epeen killstreak. It's why demographically 13+ yrs old play COD whereas more mature and skillful players play games like CS 1.6, CSS, and BF games.
CODMW1 was fggz I don't get it why must people spam forums with dumb elaborates about who plays what game and how shitty it is.
If you don't like the comments ingame don't read the chat just play the game. If you hate the game don't play it at all. If somebody prefers COD he plays COD its completely different game from BF. I don't see why would playing a game make me unskillful and childish just because its called COD.
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#17
HammerON
The Watchful Moderator
I personally will be playing both:)
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#19
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
CDdude55 said:
Got tired of COD's storyline after COD 4, then the storylines started feeling extremely generic, there only so many times i can tolerate a games storyline that is about freedom loving U.S.
Well I kinda liked the story in Black Ops, the problem was it was too much of it. Too intense. Major event, MAJOR EVENT MAJOR EVENT MAJOR EVENT AARGGGHHHGHHHHHH end.
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#20
R_1
PC user here and I already made BF3 preorder. On consoles there will be tough decission
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#21
H82LUZ73
EastCoasthandle said:
We will see how true this turns out (PC version).
that is only high for the high pre teen -teenagers that get mommy to buy em the game,Plus Christmas presents.XBox360 booooo Ps3 boooo I will start giving them respect when they get new hardware out oh wait that is 2014-15 i heard.......Oh well
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#23
Strider
"Since they both target the same high-end gaming audience"

On what planet? haha

MW3 is no where near "high-end". It's a console port.... DX9 .. outdated.

BF3 is a PC game, DX10/11, made for 2011 PC hardware and technology. That's "high-end".

Other than that little "error" in wording in the article. Good reading. ;)
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#24
WarraWarra
Strider said:
"Since they both target the same high-end gaming audience"
On what planet? haha
MW3 is no where near "high-end". It's a console port.... DX9 .. outdated.
BF3 is a PC game, DX10/11, made for 2011 PC hardware and technology. That's "high-end".
Other than that little "error" in wording in the article. Good reading. ;)
+1
O the link http://www.vgchartz.com/preorders.php?date=40825 keep in mind that of that there is close to 200000 copies just going dvd rental company's that pays $0.99 royalty fee per digital copy they claim they have rented not the actual copies burned to disc and rented for $0.99 to console gamers.

PC games = full price only no discounts anywhere, the rest of the console number is on a similar discounted formula and only a few small numbers ends up as full retail priced sales.

:nutkick:
They should make the console gamers pay full retail price for each rental as they theoretically bought the game, played it's 8 hours and completed it then sold it back to the game rental company and only loose the rental fee from the price ????

PC gamers buys a game play the 8 hours and complete it then tries to sell it and gets peanuts for it and the developers still want to take royalty / commission on that peanuts and put the pc gamers in jail for not paying them 2nd hand product fees.

Somehow the rental company's is screwing the daylights out of developers and they are to ADHD kids running gaming company's stupid to realize this.
Either both rental and pc gamers get same treatment or everybody pays full price for each new users / new rental user. :nutkick:

There is no MW3 pc volumes listed = strange.
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#25
3volvedcombat
I love DICE PERIOD.

"we really focus on creating our own game and making the best that we can......"
They focus and really make a game, not trying to bank on everybody


^ Modern warfare 1

^ Modern warfare 2

^ black ops

^ Cod 5
60$-40$ a piece. I'm 1 person that has personally payed for at least a copy off the games in the above screen shots. I regret it, yes there are deference's in the screen shots but its pretty much the same.......
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