Monday, August 15th 2016

NVIDIA Announces the GeForce GTX 10 Series for Notebooks

NVIDIA today announced the GeForce GTX 10-series for notebooks. The lineup includes three SKUs - the GeForce GTX 1080 Mobile, the GTX 1070 Mobile, and the GTX 1060 Mobile. Thanks to huge energy-efficiency gains with the "Pascal" architecture and the new 16 nm silicon fab process, this round of NVIDIA's mobile GPUs aren't "gimped out" in comparison its desktop discrete GPU lineup, in that they SKUs don't feature fewer CUDA cores to their corresponding desktop counterparts.

The lineup begins with the GTX 1080 Mobile. Based on the GP104 silicon, this chip features all 2,560 CUDA cores, 160 TMUs, and 64 ROPs physically present on the chip. The chip is endowed with 8 GB of 256-bit GDDR5X memory ticking at 10 Gbps. The core clock speeds remain unknown. The GTX 1070 Mobile is an interesting SKU in that it is better endowed than its desktop counterpart. It features 2,048 CUDA cores (the desktop GTX 1070 features 1,920), 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, and 8 GB of 256-bit GDDR5 memory running at 8 Gbps. This chip features 1443 MHz core, and 1645 MHz GPU Boost. At the bottom of the pile is the GTX 1060 Mobile. Based on the GP106 silicon, this chip features 1,280 CUDA cores, 80 TMUs, 48 ROPs, and 6 GB of 192-bit GDDR5 memory running at 8 Gbps; with clock speeds of 1405 MHz core, with 1569 MHz GPU Boost.
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30 Comments on NVIDIA Announces the GeForce GTX 10 Series for Notebooks

#1
bubbleawsome
Whaaaaatt? I've never seen a mobile chip with more power than a desktop SKU.
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#2
P4-630
btarunr
this round of NVIDIA's mobile GPUs aren't "gimped out"
Laptops containing these cards come at a premium for sure! :p
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#3
P4-630
bubbleawsome
Whaaaaatt? I've never seen a mobile chip with more power than a desktop SKU.
The future for serious gamers....
Gaming laptops!!! :D
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#4
FR@NK
They really need to be using HBM/HBM2 on these mobile cards. Just the space saving would pay for itself. Maybe the next generation will...

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#5
bug
bubbleawsome
Whaaaaatt? I've never seen a mobile chip with more power than a desktop SKU.
There's a first time for everything.
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#6
Brusfantomet
bubbleawsome
Whaaaaatt? I've never seen a mobile chip with more power than a desktop SKU.
The old 7900 came close (a 7900m GT was the same chip as the 7900 GS)

But nice to se that the mobile space is getting some propper high end chips. Now we can start discusing a "desktop replacemnt"
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#7
jabbadap
FR@NK
They really need to be using HBM/HBM2 on these mobile cards. Just the space saving would pay for itself. Maybe the next generation will...

Afaik, MXM-B 3.1 cards has their size by specification, little help would be given by hbm there. On the other hand mxm specification needs update on hbms too, it's build around gddr3/5 and has maximum of 256bit memory interface width.
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#8
KainXS
the mobile 1070 is faster than the desktop 1070 :confused:

but the price of these mxm cards is gonna be sky high like usual.
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#9
efikkan
KainXS
the mobile 1070 is faster than the desktop 1070 :confused:

but the price of these mxm cards is gonna be sky high like usual.
There is no way the mobile chip will be faster in real life. Mobile chips will continue to be cherry-picked chips where the clock speed drops like crazy once it get's a little hot.
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#10
Xajel
bubbleawsome
Whaaaaatt? I've never seen a mobile chip with more power than a desktop SKU.
It does have more shaders (cuda cores) but comes with lower clocks

Seems logical as this configuration might be more power efficient, but this doesn't comes cheap as more shaders means lower yields as you must have more full functional shaders... Lower yields means lower availability and so little bit higher cost...
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#11
ZeDestructor
Xajel
It does have more shaders (cuda cores) but comes with lower clocks

Seems logical as this configuration might be more power efficient, but this doesn't comes cheap as more shaders means lower yields as you must have more full functional shaders... Lower yields means lower availability and so little bit higher cost...
Looking at the fact the the P100 is out and shipping, and the 1080s being in stock in most places (if a bit gougey on prices), I'd say that yields seem to be pretty good.
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#12
mad1394
Nice!
Now hopefully MSI keeps their promise and delivers GPU upgrade kits for their laptops.
Looking forward to getting my paws on 1070/1080.
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#13
TheinsanegamerN
efikkan
There is no way the mobile chip will be faster in real life. Mobile chips will continue to be cherry-picked chips where the clock speed drops like crazy once it get's a little hot.
Or pick a laptop that doesnt overheat. The best GPU wont matter if you cheap out on the machine itself.
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#14
ZeDestructor
TheinsanegamerN
Or pick a laptop that doesnt overheat. The best GPU wont matter if you cheap out on the machine itself.
Aaaand that's why I have no problems recommending Alienware machines - if conservative in terms of what GPU options you get in a given chassis, at least they engineered the cooling properly. Sad that the Skylake gen no longer has an MXM slot for the GPU(s), or a dual-GPU 18" monster :(
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#15
Xajel
ZeDestructor
Looking at the fact the the P100 is out and shipping, and the 1080s being in stock in most places (if a bit gougey on prices), I'd say that yields seem to be pretty good.
I'm not saying that yields are bad, but it's easier to get lower shaders with higher clocks than higher shaders with lower clocks, and the later with this gen. seems to have better efficiency than the former.

So NV did this to ensure they will get better quantity for the desktop part (which should be needed much much more than the mobile part ) and still have good efficiency in the mobile part while still having same performance in both..

latest benchmarks indicates very close performance between the two, but we're still waiting for the official reviews and benchmarks to see how both compares in over all performance and power...
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#16
bug
KainXS
the mobile 1070 is faster than the desktop 1070 :confused:
Highly unlikely. Even if they were clocked the same, you can't dissipate that much power inside a laptop's chassis, so it would throttle like crazy. But it's going to be pretty fast for a mobile GPU.
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#17
Prima.Vera
Finally! Looking forward for a 17" laptop with 1080p to play native those AAA games!
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#18
jabbadap
bug
Highly unlikely. Even if they were clocked the same, you can't dissipate that much power inside a laptop's chassis, so it would throttle like crazy. But it's going to be pretty fast for a mobile GPU.
Pcper has now quick test of it(ASUS G752VS OC Edition):

Mobile version is tad slower. Maybe in some AIO computers, with better thermals it could actually be faster.

Edit: forgot to add link.
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#19
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Prima.Vera
Finally! Looking forward for a 17" laptop with 1080p to play native those AAA games!
Personally I'm much more interested in what they can cram into a 13 incher. ≥Pascal GTM/Polaris M cards should be interesting.
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#20
bug
jabbadap
Pcper has now quick test of it(ASUS G752VS OC Edition):

Mobile version is tad slower. Maybe in some AIO computers, with better thermals it could actually be faster.

Edit: forgot to add link.
That's a best case scenario: a gaming laptop with huge exhaust vents. While that's the compromise you have to make if you want mobile gaming, some will not even considered that mobile at all.
Not that I was expecting anything different.
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#21
xorbe
My future laptop purchase with a 1060 draws closer.

KainXS
the mobile 1070 is faster than the desktop 1070 :confused:

but the price of these mxm cards is gonna be sky high like usual.
Several replied already -- it's an efficiency move. More cores slower clock lower power same performance as less cores higher clock more power.
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#22
geon2k2
150W its still a bit too much for a laptop. It will suck a typical battery in like 20 min.

As desktop replacements, yeah why not, but then why not to buy a real desktop which you can upgrade later on, and which will provide also a very nice big screen.

The laptop, yeah, you could carry it to a lan party, but for dota, starcraft or counter strike you don't need much gpu power anyway, and even if you will want to play a more advanced game, the other people will also need to have very powerful computers, which in general is not the case. For sure there will be one or more which will have crappy integrated graphics which will struggle even with the above light titles.

I had friends which were saying, we need to push now to win as if more units will be on the screen the computer will not work anymore and we will loose :)
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#23
$ReaPeR$
finally!! real performance for laptops! sadly the price will be astronomical, for this generation at least..
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#24
Alduin
I think highest TDP for mobile graphics cards is 100w.
How do they want to keep the system cool
With a 180w gpu
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#25
jabbadap
Alduin
I think highest TDP for mobile graphics cards is 100w.
How do they want to keep the system cool
With a 180w gpu
Well I'm not quite sure what mxm-sig spec says, but most power hungry mxm cards are 200W.
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