Tuesday, April 4th 2017

Full Review of AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Surfaces

Ahead of its April 11th launch - and before the NDA lifting - AMD's Ryzen 5 1600 has already been put through its paces in a review, courtesy of website ElChapuzasInformatico.

Some memory compatibility problems seemed to surface during the review (the website used a MSI X370 XPower Gaming Titanium paired with four modules of G.Skill TridentZ DDR4 3600 MHz @ 2400 MHz.) Other specs for the test system include a Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 1200W PSU, a Kingston SSDNow KC400 128 GB SSD, another SSD in the form of a Corsair LX 512 GB, and a 64-bit version of Windows 10. The six-core, 12-thread Ryzen 5 1600 acts as was already being predicted - namely, as an equivalent to the more expensive, media-powerhouse Ryzen 7 1800X and the other 8-core, 16-thread processors in the AMD lineup. Other workloads will, however, be affected, due to the 2 less physical (and 4 logical) cores grunting away at any given task. I'll leave you with the pretty pictures, so you can get an early impression for yourselves.

Source: ElChapuzasInformatico
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30 Comments on Full Review of AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Surfaces

#1
yogurt_21
quite the bang for the buck. Not bad.
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#2
Assimilator
... media-powerhouse Ryzen 7 1800X and the other 8-core, 12-thread processors in the AMD lineup.
I believe you meant 16-thread.
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#3
theoneandonlymrk
Seams like a good price point choice imho ,this(or the X) and a crosshair might be in my future.
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#4
Raevenlord
News Editor
Assimilator said:
I believe you meant 16-thread.
  • Indeed, kind sir!
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#5
ironwolf
No RGB ring on the cooler either, in case anyone was wanting that on the R5 line.
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#6
droopyRO
What is going on with TW:Warhammer ? that is almost 50% less than a 6700k.
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#7
Manu_PT
Unstable. As usual on these chips. Maybe with ddr4 @ 1600 xD
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#8
idx
I did post that and the link to the review on the forum some time ago, I thought you guys did notice already ;).

I also added my personal comment :

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#9
TheinsanegamerN
Still waiting on them to sort out the memory controller and for OEMs to release X300 or X370 micro ATX boards.

that killed BD for me, the lack of any decent microATX boards. Zen, ATM, is suffering from the same issue. Where are the 8 phase VRM micro boards, like the sniper M or the asus gene boards?
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#10
Roy
droopyRO said:
What is going on with TW:Warhammer ? that is almost 50% less than a 6700k.
Hey, watch ryzen revisit from gamers nexus, they have the most updated result on TW which was a massive improvement.
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#11
XiGMAKiD
Nice, now I just need to see the review of Ryzen 5 1400 and if the price is right I might buy one

OOT: some of the images above are double
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#12
NHS2008
So my i7 6700k still kicks AASS
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#13
Gundem
The gaming performance 'looks' amazing at this point. If those end up as real numbers I'll be very impressed indeed :)
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#14
ratirt
I must say this R5 is nice for gaming. I would say even awesome considering it's price tag. Very nice. Still the single threaded benchmarks could have been better. That what I was hoping for with the lower core count. The multi thread is nice with the 6c/12t. Honestly this CPU is so interesting. I think maybe I'll got with that one instead of 1700X.

Just to add.
If it could hit 4.5 Ghz with reasonable vcore and power that would have been best thing ever.
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#15
biffzinker
ratirt said:
If it could hit 4.5 Ghz with reasonable vcore and power that would have been best thing ever.
Not gonna happen until Global Foundries process tech these are fabricated on improves or Zen+/2 happens or on another companies foundry process (Intel's 0.014nm++ perhaps would get you that 4.5 GHz?)
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#16
ratirt
biffzinker said:
Not gonna happen until Global Foundries process tech these are fabricated on improves or Zen+/2 happens or on another companies foundry process (Intel's 0.014nm++ perhaps would get you that 4.5 GHz?)
Let's hope for the best :)
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#17
medi01
1600 beating 1700 by quite a bit, wow.


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Adored TV had a comparison of Ryzen vs Kaby using nvidia's vs cross fire 480.

AMD's seems to NOT rely on single core performance as much as nVidia does, so for those with Vega/Polaris gap between Intel / AMD would be smaller (like 10% vs 30%) or in AMD's favor.

Youtube: 0tfTZjugDeg
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#18
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
I really wish you had a system for viewing images as a slideshow in the forums as well.

yogurt_21 said:
quite the bang for the buck. Not bad.
Ayep, the hexacore will be the one to get for good balance between power, price and the future.
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#19
infrared
ratirt said:
Let's hope for the best :)
Sorry but 4.5ghz on reasonable voltage isn't going to happen. They're physically the same die as the R7 and they hit a brick wall hard at 4-4.1 (due to architecture and manufacturing process), I just don't want people having unrealistic expectations. It's still going to be a bad-ass chip for the money!
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#20
ratirt
infrared said:
Sorry but 4.5ghz on reasonable voltage isn't going to happen. They're physically the same die as the R7 and they hit a brick wall hard at 4-4.1 (due to architecture and manufacturing process), I just don't want people having unrealistic expectations. It's still going to be a bad-ass chip for the money!
I still hope that maybe when R5 won't be crippled R7 it is possible. I wish I could prove you wrong but unfortunately I can't. I still hope though :)
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#21
idx
Now someone is going to say "wait ! i3 7530k costs 20$ less ! and oc to 4.8 GHz + doing much better in 1x Firefox tab at 800x600 ... AMD sucks! "

Sorry just getting so much annoyed by those who call others stupid for not buying an i5. It is starting to sound like if they are getting paid if someone goes for intel stuff...


infrared said:
Sorry but 4.5ghz on reasonable voltage isn't going to happen. They're physically the same die as the R7 and they hit a brick wall hard at 4-4.1 (due to architecture and manufacturing process), I just don't want people having unrealistic expectations. It's still going to be a bad-ass chip for the money!
You are right, you can oc these chips up to the max advertised XFR rage (on all cores). with careful tweaking you can get from 3.9Ghz - 4.1Ghz( if you are lucky).
At 3.8Ghz you can easily under-volt the default voltages and run it really cool. It does really seem that Ryzen design is not meant to go higher than 4.1Ghz at all, and somehow it gives me the feeling that it has nothing to do with the voltage for some reasons.
When you hit the 4.0GHz the more voltage you add the more unstable it becomes regardless of how many Mhz you wanna push to.
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#22
LemmingOverlord
Interesting review, but it leaves way too many questions unanswered.

Here are a few items on the menu:
  • The load balancing on Infinity Fabric seems to generate some odd results (i.e. R5 1600 with higher framerates than the R7 1700X).
  • Reviewer should have tested with 2x DIMMs of 3200MHz memory instead of 4x 2400MHz, this would have resulted in much better scores for R5 1600, as the memory speed profoundly impacts performance.
  • Warhammer TW is pre-patch, so performance is poor. Needs a re-test.
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#23
Vayra86
medi01 said:
1600 beating 1700 by quite a bit, wow.


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Adored TV had a comparison of Ryzen vs Kaby using nvidia's vs cross fire 480.

AMD's seems to NOT rely on single core performance as much as nVidia does, so for those with Vega/Polaris gap between Intel / AMD would be smaller (like 10% vs 30%) or in AMD's favor.

Youtube: 0tfTZjugDeg
Please, stay clear of that nonsense Youtuber

Link something that has some actual weight, not this junk. He's grasping at straws to say good stuff about Ryzen gaming benchmarks when the platform has far from matured, and gaming results are literally all over the place. He's just throwing random thoughts out there to score clicks.
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#24
infrared
idx said:
You are right, you can oc these chips up to the max advertised XFR rage (on all cores). with careful tweaking you can get from 3.9Ghz - 4.1Ghz( if you are lucky).
At 3.8Ghz you can easily under-volt the default voltages and run it really cool. It does really seem that Ryzen design is not meant to go higher than 4.1Ghz at all, and somehow it gives me the feeling that it has nothing to do with the voltage for some reasons.
When you hit the 4.0GHz the more voltage you add the more unstable it becomes regardless of how many Mhz you wanna push to.
Yup, exactly. I was trying to do some benchmarking last night, running the 4k X265 hwbot benchmark... I did a run at 4.1hz 1.52V and came 2nd (with 1800x) by only a few points, so doubled down and tried for 4.125ghz. The ram was stable but kept getting crashes, so I kept nudging up the voltage. Even at 1.58V I still couldn't do a successful pass, so gave up for the night. Going over 1.45v seems pretty pointless, from there you'll get another 50mhz at best for a very short benchmark run. I'd love to get my hands on a binned 1800x from silicon lottery, but even then they are only rated for 4.1ghz @ 1.44V. I still bet you couldn't get one of them stable with a heavy load at 4.2.

Hoping for "insert arbitrary clock speed here" when the limits are well known already is just foolish. If they were making a different processor entirely then nobody would know what it was capable of, but it is the same chip with 1 or 2 cores disabled per CCX.

@ratirt Respectfully, if you are hoping for 4.5ghz you've set yourself up for ~400mhz of disappointment :/

Then again, you could always invest in phase change cooling, that would actually be pretty interesting.
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#25
TheGuruStud
Vayra86 said:
Please, stay clear of that nonsense Youtuber

Link something that has some actual weight, not this junk. He's grasping at straws to say good stuff about Ryzen gaming benchmarks when the platform has far from matured, and gaming results are literally all over the place. He's just throwing random thoughts out there to score clicks.
Lol. He proves it with data sets. Quit crying.

There's been many intel lovers triggered by his vids.
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