trog10016 cores 32 threads.. assuming these things will occasionally be expected to fire on all cylinders i do wonder how they are going to be cooled.. i struggle keeping my lowly 4 core 8 thread 7700K vaguely cool when its firing on all cylinders..

it all sounds good but i see much benefit for average gaming enthusiast.. but i could be wrong.. he he

trog

ps..

RehmanpaWow rude much? My guess is a guess, just like yours. And we don't know pricing yet so it's all guesses

FordGT90ConceptI so doubt that, unless you're talking 200w+ power consumption.

Captain_TomNo what I said was not a guess at all. I estimated the pricing based on what Intel charges, what AMD charges, and the competitiveness of the products.

It's common sense.

RehmanpaEstimating and guessing are literally the same thing.

Captain_TomOk buddy here's the difference:

-"I hope this is cheap so I can buy it. Maybe it will be!"

-"Based on previous products and the competitive landscape this is the logical price".


^You can call them both guessing if you want, but one of those people put some thought into what he/she said. The other just sounded like a 12 year old making a Christmas list for Santa.

RehmanpaIf you say so. It's still your guess/opinion, not a fact. You can base it upon whatever you want, nobody cares.

[XC] Oj101You should see the physical size of these CPUs :D

RehmanpaEspecially the epyc chip. The thing was like half a hand size iirc

uuuaaaaaaThese will use the same socket I believe ;)

RehmanpaEspecially the epyc chip. The thing was like half a hand size iirc

deuAlot of 7700K have heat issues even delided. Expect 7700K-gate soon...

Captain_TomNo you are not. If you think a 16-core should ever cost double an 8-core, you clearly are NOT aware of how prices scale lmao: Literally by definition buddy.


In fact I would say there are a couple of points you haven't realized:

1) One of the main reasons Ryzen is priced so insanely competitively so far is that one of their main points of competition in the $100 - $450 market is gaming, and this is the one place Intel is still competitive. Thus AMD had to make their CPU's an aggressive bargain.

At the $599 - $2000 market it is all about professional work, and AMD is crushing Intel is this realm. Thus AMD can price there chips much higher if they want to.


2) Intel is forced to clock their chips lower the more cores they have. Go look how lowly clocked their 10-core i7 is. This is not the case with AMD due to the CCX design of their architectures. AMD will be bringing 16 cores of 4.1 GHz against 12 cores of 3.6GHz. Furthermore AMD's CPU's are more efficient, which is again more important in this realm.

It will be a bloodbath. AMD could charge $2000 for the 12-core version and it would be completely justified. I doubt they will, but maybe reality check some of your hopes on pricing ;)

GringsI cant see them leaving the cheaper 6-8 core intel hedt chips without competition, i wouldnt be surprised to see a 12c variant for not much more than an 1800x (which i also think will drop in price when these release)

I know some will say the r7's compete here, but they are just too pci-e limited, if their chipset was pci-e 3 maybe..

fullinfusiononly if done wrong, plus 1.28v :eek: @4.8 way to much :rolleyes:

trog100my 4790K needed 1.28 to be stable at 4.6 ghz.. 1.28 for a 7700K at 4.8 ghz aint too far out but my main point was.. if 4 core 8 threads generates xxxx amount of heat imagine what 16 core 32 threads is gonna generate..

it probably would not bother the average gamer they would only be running 4 of them at max if that.. he he

it does kind of remind me of when quad core chips first appeared.. looked good in benchmarks but in reality 3 of the 4 cores sat there doing bugger all.. :)

trog

[XC] Oj101Uh, depends on the size of your hand I guess, I'm going to say bigger for most. Big enough to need new coolers.