Saturday, May 27th 2017

Two 16-core AMD Threadripper Parts Listed Online

Ahead of their May 29 unveiling at AMD's pre-Computex 2017 show in Taipei, and their scheduled market availability for Summer 2017, two 16-core AMD Threadripper processor SKUs surfaced as online-store listings, on Greek online retailer Skroutz. These include the AMD Threadripper 1998, and the AMD Threadripper 1998X. The listings don't come with price-tags.

Some specifications of the two SKUs were revealed, too. To begin with, both chips feature 16 cores, and SMT enables 32 logical CPUs for the OS to address. The Threadripper 1998 is clocked at 3.20 GHz, with an unknown boost clock; while the 1998X is clocked higher, at 3.50 GHz, with unknown boost clocks. The "X" in the model number could denote XFR, which could unlock higher automated overclocks than the boost clock. Both chips are listed with AMD socket SP3r2 support, AMD's upcoming 4,094-pin LGA socket.

Source: DigiWorthy
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115 Comments on Two 16-core AMD Threadripper Parts Listed Online

#1
1c3d0g
Damn, the price is what I wanted to know the most. I really hope AMD will price this very competitively, as I'm sick of seeing outrageous, eyeball-bursting $1500 prices for Intel's high-end CPU's. The monopoly must end! :banghead:
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#2
Rehmanpa
If it's 1000 dollars for the x version and 900 for the non x version that would be awesome
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#3
ypsylon
Intel is about to be spanked bad.

In truth X299 line-up looks pathetic compared to what AMD has to offer. The only thing which is better is AVX-512 support, something completely useless for widely understood 'Enthusiast' user. Perhpas Intel should offer RGB CPUs?

If price is right and most important connectivity on the boards is what I need I'll get my first AMD chip since dinosaurs died off. :P
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#4
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
How many CPUs does SP3r2 support? One or two? Like Intel's LGA 2011?
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#5
john_
Skroutz is a search engine for finding and comparing prices in Greek shops, not a retailer.
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#6
Rehmanpa
So wait when are these going to be released? Is it May 29th or is that just when prices get released?
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#7
Imsochobo
Rehmanpa said:
If it's 1000 dollars for the x version and 900 for the non x version that would be awesome
My assumption is 1000 and 1100 dollars.

however 900\1000 is 100% possible judging by the lower end prices (R7) as these are just 2x R7 on one socket :)
Either way, R7's are just as fast as a 1000 dollar Intel chip and this really disrupts the market :)
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#8
nemesis.ie
And then there are the lower core 10/12 versions. I can see those being around the 600-750 range which would be awesome vs the competition.

Another possibility, given yields are supposed to be good is that we see a reduction in the price of R7, e.g. 1800X drops to 399 and the 10 core TR comes in at ~600 ....

The overall platform cost will still be higher and presumably AMD gets some money per motherboard, so they could potentially do that and still make the same margins.

The Intel HEDT boards all seem to be 200+ (and a lot more + in some cases) more than the enthusiast class.

They could go the other way too, cheaper motherboards and slightly pricier CPUs. Time will tell but it is looking like a fantastic platform. I'm kind of sorry I went with R7 but then again it presumably helped AMDs bottom line so worth it.
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#9
Dj-ElectriC
Pretty much any store can upload these CPUs for pre-order's sake
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#10
P4-630
The Way It's Meant to be Played
Oh I was reading "dripper"....
No vape news here.... :ohwell:
:D:p
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#11
Khanivore
AMD needs to price these CPUs carefully if they are attempting to shake up Intel's monopoly. Wishful thinking but if they are priced between £500-£700, Intel will have a headache.
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#12
trog100
16 cores 32 threads.. assuming these things will occasionally be expected to fire on all cylinders i do wonder how they are going to be cooled.. i struggle keeping my lowly 4 core 8 thread 7700K vaguely cool when its firing on all cylinders..

it all sounds good but i see much benefit for average gaming enthusiast.. but i could be wrong.. he he

trog

ps..
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#13
notb
ypsylon said:

In truth X299 line-up looks pathetic compared to what AMD has to offer. The only thing which is better is AVX-512 support, something completely useless for widely understood 'Enthusiast' user. Perhpas Intel should offer RGB CPUs?
What exactly is this weird creature called "widely understood enthusiast"?
Why AVX-512 is useless to him? Do you know what AVX-512 is? :)
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#14
Axaion
trog100 said:
16 cores 32 threads.. assuming these things will occasionally be expected to fire on all cylinders i do wonder how they are going to be cooled.. i struggle keeping my lowly 4 core 8 thread 7700K vaguely cool when its firing on all cylinders..

it all sounds good but i see much benefit for average gaming enthusiast.. but i could be wrong.. he he

trog

ps..
You have to delid your 7700k

also stop overclocking it, intel told you so
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#15
medi01
AVX-512 is the best thing since sliced bread.
If CPU doesn't have it, it is a crappy CPU.
It gives such a tremendous benefits, it is simply outrageous that someone dared skipping this feature altogether in their pathetic near bancrupt parodies of labs.

Rumors say, AVX-512 opens chakras and improves karma too (on top of amazing benefit of 512 bit SIMD instruction set, which allows you to execute 512bit SIMD instructions, no less!!!)

Who knows, if it isn't AVX-512 that make SkyLake faster than Broadwell-E, eh?


How freaking dare they!?!?!? It's a tech from 2013, FFS!
Shame on you, AMD, I always knew your chips were too hot or, when not, had some other gotchas I have yet to google!
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#16
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
medi01 said:
AVX-512 is the best thing since sliced bread.
Yeah, since software is making huge use of AVX-512. :laugh:

One does not simply use AVX. Software has to be written to take advantage of it.
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#17
ShurikN
Khanivore said:
AMD needs to price these CPUs carefully if they are attempting to shake up Intel's monopoly. Wishful thinking but if they are priced between £500-£700, Intel will have a headache.
Whaaaaaa?!?! I'd be amazed if the top dog Threadripper isn't $1500
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#18
notb
Aquinus said:
Yeah, since software is making huge use of AVX-512. :laugh:

One does not simply use AVX. Software has to be written to take advantage of it.
I think I lost the plot a bit. Have we already moved to making fun of Ryzen? :D
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#19
theoneandonlymrk
trog100 said:
16 cores 32 threads.. assuming these things will occasionally be expected to fire on all cylinders i do wonder how they are going to be cooled.. i struggle keeping my lowly 4 core 8 thread 7700K vaguely cool when its firing on all cylinders..

it all sounds good but i see much benefit for average gaming enthusiast.. but i could be wrong.. he he

trog

ps..
That's neither here nor there ,you could have a shit case or poor Hsf , it should go without saying that 16 cores will run hot as it will for intel.
Unless they are clocked really low and no one wants that from either cpu vendor so have a think and if you're going to try and mock Amd , make feckin sense would you.
And i got plenty of cooling ,im ready, I didn't cheap out on Any part of my pc bar cpu 159£ years ago and still doing ok.
I can see prices spanning 500-1000 on cpus i would really like a budget cpu option say 8 core 2 per ccx just as a first buy option at 450 notes but im likely dreaming.
As i am about the 1976X i have seen rumoured i was born in that year ,shits gota be lucky for me surely.
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#20
nemesis.ie
The TR chips are in a much bigger physical package so more surface area to pull the heat off, that will help things along.
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#21
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
ypsylon said:
Intel is about to be spanked bad.

In truth X299 line-up looks pathetic compared to what AMD has to offer. The only thing which is better is AVX-512 support, something completely useless for widely understood 'Enthusiast' user. Perhpas Intel should offer RGB CPUs?

If price is right and most important connectivity on the boards is what I need I'll get my first AMD chip since dinosaurs died off. :p
Remember Intel sounds like they are going to release second. Broadwell e already offered up to 22/24 cores. If Intel needs to they can just move branding over... Don't forget they also have all their 3647 based stuff as well.
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#22
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
nemesis.ie said:
The Intel HEDT boards all seem to be 200+ (and a lot more + in some cases) more than the enthusiast class.
It costs money to make motherboards with twice as many DRAM channels and PCI-E lanes. All of those pins aren't for show and it costs money to produce a motherboard with the circuitry to wire all of that up. There is literally more motherboard.
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#23
nemesis.ie
I'm well aware, my point was that AMD should also be making more licence fee from these higher end boards ...
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#24
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
nemesis.ie said:
The TR chips are in a much bigger physical package so more surface area to pull the heat off, that will help things along.
Not to mention they'll be soldered IHS, like the Ryzen CPUs and the current 2011 Intel CPUs. That improves cooling performance greatly.

Aquinus said:
It costs money to make motherboards with twice as many DRAM channels and PCI-E lanes. All of those pins aren't for show and it costs money to produce a motherboard with the circuitry to wire all of that up. There is literally more motherboard.
Plus, not all the Intel HEDT boards are over $200. There are a few decent ones for under $200. Heck, you can pick up a decent X99 board right now off newegg for $160.
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#25
sergionography
1c3d0g said:
Damn, the price is what I wanted to know the most. I really hope AMD will price this very competitively, as I'm sick of seeing outrageous, eyeball-bursting $1500 prices for Intel's high-end CPU's. The monopoly must end! :banghead:
I actually hope they price these over 1500dollars as a clear statement to intel that they have the cpu crown, even if only for a short while. The bank for buck is always in the second to best chip or lower. Keep in mind also a 10 core, 12core, and 14core models are likely to come out too so these need to have a place. My assumption would be 500-700 for 10 core. 700-900 for 12 cores. 900-1300 for 14. And 1300+ for 16 cores. These should all perform better than broadwell hedt as they can clock higher at the same power envelope and with more cores, so untill skylake hedt is released they have the playing field.
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