Friday, June 2nd 2017

Calyos Showcases Its NSG S0 Phase Change Cooling Chassis at Computex 2017

Remember that Kickstarted case from Calyos, which promises to be the ending of spinning fans on your rig? Calyos is showcasing it at this year's Computex.

The production chassis is designed by France's modding duo WaterMod, which improved upon the original open-frame concept design both in terms of performance and aesthetics. The usage of Phase Change cooling through two cooling blocks - one for the GPU, another for the CPU) makes away with fans, pumps, water, and any other assorted cooling techniques that involve calling upon the decibel gods.
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39 Comments on Calyos Showcases Its NSG S0 Phase Change Cooling Chassis at Computex 2017

#26
PowerPC
citrix13Prince Valiant only proves the point that the Case is Silent. He explaned quite sensibly "Cooling and casing won’t make any noise. But depending on your electronics options, you may hear coil whine or HDD working"

Coil whine does not come from the case, it comes the stuff you put into the case.

Learn to read and comprehend
Really? What do you think a Silent Case means? Hint: it has nothing to do with what kind of sounds the case itself makes...
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#27
Slizzo
UbersonicYou will if running high end CPU/GPU hence why they have optional fans. It's essentially the same principle as the Zalman reserator passive water coolers, the passive cooling potential is excellent and will be able to cool any beast at idle, but once the radiators reach their limit and the room temperature gets high things will run away unless actively cooled (NB that does include opening windows).
Check out Linus Sebastian talking about it. Quoted as saying a Core i7 6950X coupled with a GTX 1080 Ti didn't overheat anything WITHOUT FANS.
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#28
Grings
The Vinyl on the CPU and GPU blocks looks awful, like a bad ghetto mod
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#29
AnarchoPrimitiv
AenraIf there's anyone that can educate this redneck on how this works and why, by all means do.
If you have an opinion (based on expertise that is) regarding its actual efficiency, by all means share that as well :)
I'm guessing that this works like a refrigerator in that there is a gas (with refrigeration qualities like Ammonia) contained in a sealed environment and all it does is allow the gas to expand once it's in the chamber that contacts the heat source to absorb the heat away from it, then either through a pump or thermodynamic properties (i.e. heat rises, so if the expansion chamber is lower than the condensation chamber, the gas will cycle itself without the need of outside influence) the gas is moved to a cooling chamber where it condenses and releases its heat back into the atmosphere then the gas continues this loop endlessly. The real question is what refrigerant they are using in there because it'd be VERY interesting if it was R-408a or something like that...anyway, that's my best guess and the simplest way to accomplish such a feat, so I have to assume it's based on this in some respect.
AirA refrigerator works differently. There is no compressor on this thing (thankfully), its not a refrigeration cicle. The flow is not forced.

The case part with the pc parts probably cant be enclosed, or every component other than GPU and CPU will overheat after some time, since they rely on passive cooling.

If you mount some fans on the radiators, it will probably the most powerful water cooled system ever.
Even IF there isn't a electromechanical compressor, and this case uses naturally occuring thermodynamic properties to move the refrigerant from expansions to condensing, it is STILL the premise on which a refrigerator, or air conditioner is based.
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#30
HammerON
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citrix13Learn to read and comprehend
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#31
Air
AnarchoPrimitivEven IF there isn't a electromechanical compressor, and this case uses naturally occuring thermodynamic properties to move the refrigerant from expansions to condensing, it is STILL the premise on which a refrigerator, or air conditioner is based.
There surely isn't a compressor, or else they wouldn't be able to say its "silent". I would argue that a refrigeration cycle and this passive cooling method are totally different, but you are indeed correct pointing that both use phase change.
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#32
Yakko
So I was one of the kick starters and should soon be receiving my case.

www.kickstarter.com/projects/1489140137/nsg-s0-worlds-first-fanless-chassis-for-high-perfo

I debated on this for awhile before i did so it ran me 650 bucks for a case plus shipping.

But I did so for a reason my current case sounds like a tornado tons of fans to keep it cool i pretty much have to have earbuds or a head set to stay sain.

If you dont like linus video theres also this
Heres the thing both linus and this video both show off the prototype and from the sound of it there still tweaking it for final production. The difference between the prototype and current is huge. First they split the heat sinks into two changed the layout completely i believe they said 30% more efficient gpu and 50% cpu.

So how can i justify 675 for a case? I have been looking into getting a water cool setup for awhile now and a good setup would cost me around that. Plus its a uniq case that no one has and while I do have to spend more money on a silent power supply to make it silent this will cool just as well as a water cooling system with out the need for fans and it can be overclocked and if you really want to push overclocking yes you can add fans to it but I think the silence will keep me happy, also dont have to worry about water leaks, air bubbles or flushing the system.

Note no spot for a second GPU.

Small note on the silence there are no moving parts which is why its so quiet but there is still an electrical hum barely noticeable by the electrical components on the motherboard/power supply/gpu. But at 18dB and the fact that you can hear that is still very impressive.
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#33
Scrizz
AirI would argue that a refrigeration cycle and this passive cooling method are totally different, but you are indeed correct pointing that both use phase change.
It is the same premise. same as air conditioning.
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#34
Tartaros
PowerPCAt some point the PC parts should be in a closed case, preferably even a sound dampening one. Then I will practically throw my money at it.
DarkHillHeat needs to be dissapated - that cannot change.
Graphene might do that. Maybe next half century :laugh:
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#35
Aenra
@Yakko welcome and thanks for posting :)

If you OC, do please come back with some temp numbers once you're all set.
As originally stated, all i had was an impression, said it myself, don't know any better. Am perfectly willing to accept it will be suitable for normal situations, definitely need some numbers when we're talking OCing here.
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#36
Air
ScrizzIt is the same premise. same as air conditioning.
This thing has only one pressure level, the cycle is totally different. It has no compressor, no expansion valve, no energy expended. No energy being forced against the temperature gradient. But if you are saying that the phase change is enough to say both are similar, you can also include saturated steam heating installations as "similar".
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#37
Upgrayedd
These things are extremely loud arent they?
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#38
londiste
The concern I have with this case/cooling solution is GPU VRM. Earlier pictures show pretty much only the same block on GPU as the one on CPU. Motherboard VRM is fairly OK with the heatsinks on it and ambient airflow (although not always) but GPU VRMs generally get really really hot with small heatsinks on them, especially with no forced airflow.
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#39
Slizzo
londisteThe concern I have with this case/cooling solution is GPU VRM. Earlier pictures show pretty much only the same block on GPU as the one on CPU. Motherboard VRM is fairly OK with the heatsinks on it and ambient airflow (although not always) but GPU VRMs generally get really really hot with small heatsinks on them, especially with no forced airflow.
No real way to tell unless we get someone to get one of these cases and a newer EVGA card with iCX cooler on it with all the thermal probes that they've been putting on them now.
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