Tuesday, August 1st 2017

Intel Readies Four 6-core "Coffee Lake" SKUs, Including Two Core i5

Intel is beginning to feel the pinch of AMD Ryzen 7-series, and the upper-end of the Ryzen 5-series, which offer better multi-threaded performance than similarly-priced quad-core Intel Core i7 and Core i5 "Kaby Lake" processors, and reasonably good single-thread performance, and platform costs. The company is responding in force with four new six-core SKUs, and for the first time since "Nehalem," the company isn't changing the socket with the introduction of its third mainstream-desktop micro-architecture on a given process. The 8th generation Core "Coffee Lake" mainstream-desktop processors will be built in the existing LGA1151 package, and will hopefully support existing motherboards through BIOS updates, even though Intel plans a new 300-series chipset to go with these chips.

The six-core "Coffee Lake" processor lineup addresses not just the higher-end of the lineup with Core i7 SKUs, but also the mid-range of it, with Core i5 SKUs. One of these could even scrape the sub-$200 price-point. Of the four confirmed SKUs are the top-dog Core i7-8700K, its slightly cheaper sibling, the Core i7-8700 (non-K); and the Core i5-8600K, with its cheaper sibling, the Core i5-8400. Of these the i7-8700K and i5-8600K are unlocked. The Core i7 parts feature HyperThreading enabling 12 logical CPUs for the OS to deal with, and 12 MB of shared L3 cache; while the Core i5 parts lack HyperThreading, and only feature 9 MB of L3 cache. The clock speeds and other features are tabled below. The company plans to launch these four either by the end of Q3 (late-September) or some time in Q4, before Holiday.

Source: Anandtech Forums
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107 Comments on Intel Readies Four 6-core "Coffee Lake" SKUs, Including Two Core i5

#1
Captain_Tom
LOL seriously: Anyone buying Skylake-X is a moron. I am just not afraid to say it.

Zen beats Skylake-X at literally everything, and Coffee Lake will also be way better than Skylake-X at everything.
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#3
Enterprise24
Waiting to grab 8600K and hope for 5Ghz. Must be a good upgrade from 6500 @ 5Ghz. :)
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#5
AndreiD
Captain_Tom said:
LOL seriously: Anyone buying Skylake-X is a moron. I am just not afraid to say it.

Zen beats Skylake-X at literally everything, and Coffee Lake will also be way better than Skylake-X at everything.
Suuure, that's why a 6C/12T 7800X is faster than an 8C/16T 1800X in most applications because Zen "beats Skylake-X at literally everything".
I swear, some people just let their favoritism of a multi billion dollar publicly traded company get to their brain and spout the stupidest things ever.
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#6
Dave65
Captain_Tom said:
LOL seriously: Anyone buying Skylake-X is a moron. I am just not afraid to say it.

Zen beats Skylake-X at literally everything, and Coffee Lake will also be way better than Skylake-X at everything.
Agreed!
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#7
Lionheart
AndreiD said:
Suuure, that's why a 6C/12T 7800X is faster than an 8C/16T 1800X in most applications because Zen "beats Skylake-X at literally everything".
I swear, some people just let their favoritism of a multi billion dollar publicly traded company get to their brain and spout the stupidest things ever.
How was that the stupidest thing ever? He made a fair point. 7800X faster than the 1800X? Yeah I think not, only in terms of IPC & overclocking yes but who'd buy an 1800X when you can get the same chip (1700) for a better price.
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#8
buggalugs
4.7Ghz boost and 6 cores sounds nice. This could be my next CPU. Ryzen is an option too. This makes Intel's HEDT kinda pointless.
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#9
M2B
I think i5-8600K will easily beat or at least match i7-7700K in most of new Games and a very good choice for those who don't want pay much money for a perfect gaming platform.
GTX 970 and i5-6400 still good for me but I'm waiting for mid-range volta based Cards (probably GTX 2060) and a cheap Six core Coffee lake processor like i5-8400 to Build a budget 2K Gaming System.(or even 4K in some games)
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#10
MxPhenom 216
Corsair Fanboy
LogitechFan said:
8700k + Asus Z370i Strix
Meh, Asus has lost its way IMO. I cant wait too see what AsRock and MSI have up their sleeve for Z370 motherboards.
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#11
Hugh Mungus
Basic i5 6-core could actually be a worse choice for everyone than an updated 7700. Maybe even the 8600k is a bit pointless compared to something like a 7700k. Depending on pricing, the i5 6-cores could be great or simply flop, unless Intel's getting rid of quadcores with hyperthreading altogether for the mainstream lineup.
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#12
Lionheart
These look like some really good chips, just hope Intel don't cheap out on the thermal Goo inside :toast:
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#13
bogami
Progress that is more extorted than intended. It would be better to make 8 cores with 16 treyds.
The price is likely to be high around $ 500. 4.7 Gh is a new bust max, which I think is intentional since AMD can not handle more than 4Gh in normal operation, as a short leap to 4.1 gh can not be taken into account !
The name is very appropriate.
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#14
Liviu Cojocaru
buggalugs said:
4.7Ghz boost and 6 cores sounds nice. This could be my next CPU. Ryzen is an option too. This makes Intel's HEDT kinda pointless.
That 4.7 boost is only for 1c...4.3 boost on all, still not bad
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#15
birdie
Again, I see so much BS against Intel it's cringe worthy.

They have had very similar prices for their consumer Core parts of the past 6 years, starting with Sandy Bridge yet some especially smart people scream that they will be sold for $500 a piece.

Now, if you start using the grey matter in your head you'll quickly realize that the professional SkyLake 7800X CPU costs $389 and consumer parts just cannot cost higher because they have fewer features (no AVX512, a lot less PCI-E lanes, no official DDR4-2400 support) and because we have Ryzen which despite its lower IPC boasts 8 cores and 16 threads in a very competitive price range.

As much as you hate Intel and NVIDIA, people in their marketing departments are not complete morons and they will not sell overpriced products when the competition offers a significantly better price/performance ratio.

It's kinda astounding to see so many rabid AMD fanboys nowadays - I mean they've always been there but never so vocal and belligerent. It surely looks like the WCCFTech AMD infection is spreading onto other websites: first VideoCardz, then AnandTech, now TPU.

I'm all for competition, but let's be respectful, mindful and let's stop with throwing shat at each other.
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#16
Liviu Cojocaru
After this launch people will be able to get an i7 7700K for a very good price imo
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#17
Hugh Mungus
Liviu Cojocaru said:
After this launch people will be able to get an i7 7700K for a very good price imo
Doesn't matter what your opinion is as the 7700k likely will NOT drop in price significantly. If you think the 7700k is a bad price now, be prepared to be dissapointed when coffee lake arrives.
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#18
Liviu Cojocaru
Hugh Mungus said:
Doesn't matter what your opinion is as the 7700k likely will NOT drop in price significantly. If you think the 7700k is a bad price now, be prepared to be dissapointed when coffee lake arrives.
And why would that be?
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#19
bug
birdie said:
Again, I see so much BS against Intel it's cringe worthy.

They have had very similar prices for their consumer Core parts of the past 6 years, starting with Sandy Bridge yet some especially smart people scream that they will be sold for $500 a piece.

Now, if you start using the grey matter in your head you'll quickly realize that the professional SkyLake 7800X CPU costs $389 and consumer parts just cannot cost higher because they have fewer features (no AVX512, a lot less PCI-E lanes, no official DDR4-2400 support) and because we have Ryzen which despite its lower IPC boasts 8 cores and 16 threads in a very competitive price range.

As much as you hate Intel and NVIDIA, people in their marketing departments are not complete morons and they will not sell overpriced products when the competition offers a significantly better price/performance ratio.

It's kinda astounding to see so many rabid AMD fanboys nowadays - I mean they've always been there but never so vocal and belligerent. It surely looks like the WCCFTech AMD infection is spreading onto other websites: first VideoCardz, then AnandTech, now TPU.

I'm all for competition, but let's be respectful, mindful and let's stop with throwing shat at each other.
Using the grey matter? I've heard from a psychologist that you cannot logically argue someone's conviction if he didn't get it through logic. Fanboism is an organic response/choice, that's why throwing arguments at it always fails.

The simple picture is we have an industry dominated by two big companies. One is bigger than the other so it has more room to maneuver so it takes advantage of that, the other one is smaller, thus it has to play the good will card more. That's how it is and it couldn't be anything else.
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#20
Lionheart
birdie said:
Again, I see so much BS against Intel it's cringe worthy.

They have had very similar prices for their consumer Core parts of the past 6 years, starting with Sandy Bridge yet some especially smart people scream that they will be sold for $500 a piece.

Now, if you start using the grey matter in your head you'll quickly realize that the professional SkyLake 7800X CPU costs $389 and consumer parts just cannot cost higher because they have fewer features (no AVX512, a lot less PCI-E lanes, no official DDR4-2400 support) and because we have Ryzen which despite its lower IPC boasts 8 cores and 16 threads in a very competitive price range.

As much as you hate Intel and NVIDIA, people in their marketing departments are not complete morons and they will not sell overpriced products when the competition offers a significantly better price/performance ratio.

It's kinda astounding to see so many rabid AMD fanboys nowadays - I mean they've always been there but never so vocal and belligerent. It surely looks like the WCCFTech AMD infection is spreading onto other websites: first VideoCardz, then AnandTech, now TPU.

I'm all for competition, but let's be respectful, mindful and let's stop with throwing shat at each other.
Okay.... Who's your comment even towards in this thread or just in general all over the net? o_O
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#21
Hugh Mungus
Liviu Cojocaru said:
And why would that be?
Even old extreme editions hardly ever drop in price when the next generation of Intel cpu's arrives, the 7700k didn't get a reduced pricetag after ryzen and the 6700k is still nearly as expensive as a 7700k. NEW quadcores should be cheaper, but the old ones won't get more than 10 dollars off.
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#22
InVasMani
For me this hinges on price and Z170 motherboard support to even consider contemplating over thread ripper...hell if you can't BCLK the i5-8400 and depending on the i5-8600K that's another factor as well. AMD played it's card and it's beastly it's gonna take more than gentle persuasion to sway me from what they have to offer.
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#23
Prima.Vera
I never understood the purpose of a non-K CPU. I mean who in the right mind would buy that locked crap with even lower freqs than the K variant, only for a couple less $ ???
Seriously, those must be the most useless CPU's ever.
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#24
Hugh Mungus
Prima.Vera said:
I never understood the purpose of a non-K CPU. I mean who in the right mind would buy that locked crap with even lower freqs than the K variant, only for a couple less $ ???
Seriously, those must be the most useless CPU's ever.
Cheaper mobos and big companies don't oc gheir cpu's anyway. A bit more efficient too if you care about that. Stock cooler will also be fine, so yoi don't need to spend 20-30 dollars on a somewhat decent cooler either, which, again, is mostly useful for big companies. Non-k is great for OEM (mini-)pc's because the manufacturers can use basic OEM mobos.
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#25
Liviu Cojocaru
Hugh Mungus said:
Even old extreme editions hardly ever drop in price when the next generation of Intel cpu's arrives, the 7700k didn't get a reduced pricetag after ryzen and the 6700k is still nearly as expensive as a 7700k. NEW quadcores should be cheaper, but the old ones won't get more than 10 dollars off.
probably you don't realise that the 6700K was almost the same as the 7700K but now with the 8700K being a 6c/12t is a totally different situation. so to ask around 350£ for a 6c/12t cpu and keep the 7700k ,which is a 4c/8t, at around 320-330£ will be impossible ;)
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