Friday, October 13th 2017

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Overclocking to be Restricted

NVIDIA could severely limit the overclocking capabilities of its upcoming "almost GTX 1080" performance-segment graphics card, the GeForce GTX 1070 Ti. The company will tightly control the non-reference clock-speeds at which its add-in card (AIC) partners ship their custom-design graphics cards; and there could even be tighter limits to which you can overclock these cards. NVIDIA is probably doing this to ensure it doesn't completely cannibalize its GeForce GTX 1080 graphics card, which has been recently refreshed with faster 11 Gbps GDDR5X memory.

The GTX 1070 Ti is based on a "GP104" Pascal silicon with a core-configuration that's vastly higher than the current GTX 1070, and too close to that of the GTX 1080. It features 2,432 CUDA cores, just 128 fewer than the GTX 1080, and core clock speed of 1608 MHz that's on-par with the pricier card, too. The GPU Boost frequency is set to 1683 MHz, which is lower than the 1733 MHz of the GTX 1080. It also features slower GDDR5 memory. The GTX 1070 Ti is expected to launch by the 26th of October, priced at $429.

Sources: eTeknix, Expreview, VideoCardz
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79 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Overclocking to be Restricted

#2
Sihastru
This makes almost zero sense. Rumours started by people with very limited technical expertise.
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#3
gdallsk
You can limit the clocks on the custom cards all you want, but you can't stop people overclocking them.
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#4
the54thvoid
Click bait.

Two stories with different sources being relayed by a 3rd party and repeated on TPU.

One source says manual OC is possible, the other says no. Meanwhile, Afterburner is prepped for the 1070ti or was I imagining that?
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#5
jabbadap
Durvelle27 said:
i foresee custom BIOs
By whom? Last I checked there's no bios editors for pascals.
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#6
Vya Domus
If this is true , they seem to have no idea what they are doing. Strangely enough , this is a similarly heretic/nonsensical behavior to Intel. For some reason AMD really managed to spook them this generation.

gdallsk said:
but you can't stop people overclocking them.
Yes they can , Pascal is already tightly locked , good luck overclocking any card past 2.1-2.2 Ghz and 1.094 volts. All they need to do is limit the voltage even more , Turbo boost will do the rest of the work.

Point is their cards have been under strict lock-down ever since Kepler , they can do whatever they want.
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#7
Vario
why release a 1070ti, why not just lower the price of the 1080. They have been out for almost a year and a half.
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#8
gdallsk
Vya Domus said:
Yes they can , Pascal is already tightly locked , good luck overclocking any card past 2.2 Ghz.
2.2 is already an overclock, you seemed to have misinterpreted my post. They've already tried to lock the overclocking on the laptop GPU's, that quickly turned into a mass of angry people, that forced them to turn it back.
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I No
Vario said:
why release a 1070ti, why not just lower the price of the 1080. They have been out for almost a year and a half.
Cuz of yields, these 1070tis would be the "almost made it to 1080". NVIDIA is selling the recycle bin ... literally (and I'm not saying it's a bad thing lol)
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#10
londiste
Sounds like things are lost in translation.
Only thing being said is that OC 1070Ti cards will not be allowed from AIB partners (to not directly cannibalize GTX1080).
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#11
Lightofhonor
Seems like it would have been easier to reduce the 1080 price than try to squeeze a product in-between. 128 core difference probably won't be more than 2fps.

I know the 1070ti is easier to make, but I doubt $70 cheaper.
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#12
gdallsk
Lightofhonor said:
Seems like it would have been easier to reduce the 1080 price than try to squeeze a product in-between. 128 core difference probably won't be more than 2fps.

I know the 1070ti is easier to make, but I doubt $70 cheaper.
You keep forgetting that the memory is also different, the difference is probably gonna be larger than just 2 fps.
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#13
Supercrit
Wait for the 1070ti K version with unlocked overclocking at a premium.
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#14
P4-630
The Way It's Meant to be Played
Supercrit said:
Wait for the 1070ti K version with unlocked overclocking at a premium.
It's not intel lol! :p
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#15
Roph
I'm sure Nvidia is salivating for a future where they can milk customers with "K" versions of GPUs in a few more generations time.

$499 1660, (gotta keep selling midrange for flagship prices too of course), $599 1660K.
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#16
Th3pwn3r
People were probably right when they said these were failed 1080s.
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#17
RejZoR
Why did they bother releasing this thing in the first place then? Just leave it at GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 and that's it. You don't need anything in between.
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#18
londiste
RejZoR said:
Why did they bother releasing this thing in the first place then? Just leave it at GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 and that's it. You don't need anything in between.
scared of vega 56? :)
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#19
Vario
RejZoR said:
Why did they bother releasing this thing in the first place then? Just leave it at GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 and that's it. You don't need anything in between.
Yep exactly.
I No said:
Cuz of yields, these 1070tis would be the "almost made it to 1080". NVIDIA is selling the recycle bin ... literally (and I'm not saying it's a bad thing lol)
Yeah so make it a 1070 and sell it for less.
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#20
Vayra86
Vario said:
why release a 1070ti, why not just lower the price of the 1080. They have been out for almost a year and a half.
Yields! That's the only reason this card exists.

Again, AVOID this POS
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I No
Vario said:
Yep exactly.

Yeah so make it a 1070 and sell it for less.
And how's that good for the business ? Let's see... the same parts that go into a 1070 which would retail for less than the 1070 Ti.
Selling stuff for less isn't always a good idea AMD's been doing it for the past decade that turned up so well for them /s. Speaking from a business's POV this is actually a very solid idea : Why lower (for a second time) the price of the 1080 when you can rake in more money with the ones that failed to become the 1080?. As for the rest of us it's easy.... you don't want/need it then don't buy it. Also with the prices of Vega at this time (Gloflo at it's best)/ the lack of AIB Vega, nvidia can flood the market with these and they will sell.
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#22
dozenfury
It sounds like two different things. Nvidia not letting vendors put out cards over a certain out of the box shipped clock speed is one thing (although not consumer-friendly in itself).

Actually hard limiting user overclock speeds through a bios limit or something like that would be very different. The shipped speed I hardly care about, since for overclockers what speed a card ships at isn't nearly as important as what it's ceiling is. Granted many gpus and cpus do it in a roundabout way with disabling cores or w/e, but I'd hope they wouldn't add an artificial hard clock limit via bios or something just to keep the 1080 competitive.
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#23
R-T-B
Durvelle27 said:
i foresee custom BIOs
BIOS is signed on pascal.
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#24
puma99dk|
Mby oc restricted to avoid a new disaster where a Ti card beats the card above it like what happened with the first Titan X Pascal card when the GTX 1080 Ti was released bcs of overclocking it could beat the card easily so Nvidia just released the 2gen Titan X Pascal called Titan XP with even more cuda cores I am not sure we still have seen the total unleashed Pascal gpu yet when Nvidia said the 1 gen Titan X Pascal was the fastest card until they fucked up and released the 2 gen.
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#25
Durvelle27
R-T-B said:
BIOS is signed on pascal.
Never know

Anything is possible
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