Wednesday, January 24th 2018

Denuvo Responds to 4.8 Bypass with Updated 5.0 Protection

Ever since the company's inception in 2013, Denuvo has been constantly playing a cat-and-mouse game with cracker groups. Italian entity CPY recently bypassed Denuvo 4.8 which was the company's latest DRM protection, or so we thought. Apparently, Denuvo knew that sooner than later their anti-tamper technology was going to fall and had silently prepared an updated version as a countermeasure. Bulgarian programmer Voksi from rival 'Revolt' warez group has dubbed this new version as Denuvo 5.0 instead of 4.9 because it brings many significant changes to the table. As a matter of fact, Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite received a silent, retroactive patch not so long ago updating the game to the latest iteration of Denuvo. Future titles like Dragon Ball FighterZ, Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age, and many more will certainly leave the oven with Denuvo 5.0 onboard.

In other news, digital security expert Irdeto recently acquired Denuvo. Irdeto might not be well-known in the gaming industry, but the firm is by no means a newcomer. With more than 50 years of experience under the company's belt, their highly-acclaimed Irdeto Cloakware cybersecurity technology protects some of the world's best known brands. With this new partnership, both companies aim to create more robust security solutions to combat piracy. It wouldn't be a shocker if future games come with as many as four layers of copy protection (Steam/Origin/Uplay + Denuvo + VMProtect + Cloakware) to fight off pirates. However, more isn't always better when it comes to DRM protections.
Sources: DSOGaming, Irdeto
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27 Comments on Denuvo Responds to 4.8 Bypass with Updated 5.0 Protection

#1
biffzinker
Chino
future games come with as many as four layers of copy protection (Steam/Origin/Uplay + Denuvo + VMProtect + Cloakware)
Why stop at four layers of DRM? /s
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#2
noel_fs
biffzinker said:
Why stop at four layers of DRM? /s
1 per core
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#3
dozenfury
I don't mind if devs want to put 18 layers of protection in their games. Just don't slow down our game performance for them. It's the same reason people don't run 6 different anti-viruses at once.
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#4
Manu_PT
I think they are starting to piss off the crackers. And that´s bad for them, because everyone knows it takes time to crack their stuff because crackers don´t care that much about it, they are not taking their 100% effort. If you continue to like provoke them, good luck. Meanwhile games getting infested with DRM processes stressing CPUs. Disgusting.
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#5
Vayra86
This is an endless battle, and to be fair, it can only end badly for DRM, and the companies using it. Its a disgusting lack of long term vision about sales, gaming, its platforms and the actual impact of piracy.
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#6
Supercrit
dozenfury said:
I don't mind if devs want to put 18 layers of protection in their games. Just don't slow down our game performance for them. It's the same reason people don't run 6 different anti-viruses at once.
Recommended system specifications: AMD Threadripper 1950X or Intel i9 7920X
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#7
LogitechFan
Supercrit said:
Recommended system specifications: AMD Threadripper 1950X or Intel i9 7920X
said no-one ever
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#8
n-ster
LogitechFan said:
said no-one ever
Damn that joke/sarcasm flew way over your head :p
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#9
RejZoR
How about you corporate idiots start treating gamers like customers and not thieves by default? Imagine coming to a store and they strip search you every single time before you exit. Would you still buy there? Why the F people still buy games infested with DRM crapware? Garbage like this made me buy on GOG even if prices are higher and they often aren't. They run the zero DRM policy and I love them because of it. And Denuvo is now gonna stick DRM on top of DRM. Is this a Xzibit meme or something? Expecting such game to work after 5 years on a newly released major OS release would be nothing but a miracle. Because I can assure you it won't work anymore. Just like every single god damn game when we transitioned from Win98 to Win2000/XP and from XP to Vista and from Vista to 7 and from 7 to 8 and so on. Exactly the same game without any of DRM (the pirated ones) work flawlessly. This tells me to pirate games instead of spending 60€ on them and then getting rammed from behind sans lube.

Stop buying games that have such invasive DRM. Have some principles people and show them a middle finger. And make negative mentions all over the internetz about it.
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#10
lexluthermiester
I predict this will be cracked very quickly.
@Denuvo
You will never win. Stop trying. Find better jobs.
@Publishers Who Use Denuvo Or Any Other Form Of DRM
DRM does NOT work, only pisses us gamers off and motivates us to crack your software to play games we PAID for. You will never stop pirates. They'll do it just to piss you off. Do away with DRM and you're find the majority of your piracy problems go away. Example, games on GOG.com rarely get pirated. Why? It's not because they don't offer great games, because they do. It's because GOG respects us paying customers and in return, we respect them. Games on Steam, pirated all the time, but only the ones that have DRM limitations. Coincidence? Don't break anything thinking about too hard. You all are shooting yourselves in the foot by alienating your audience from your products. Sure, some people won't care. The rest of us will treat you like garbage for making our gaming experiences more of a hassle than they need to be, for treating us all like criminals and for attempting, and failing, to stop pirates. When you learn to see the big picture and realize that you can make a lot more money by just making great games instead of wasting time, effort and money on pointless and ineffective DRM, you'll have a MUCH better public image. Put another way, the more you provoke some of us, the more we give you the finger. Let that sink in.
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#11
_JP_
Arcades had better DRM, you had to move your ass to its spot and drop a coin to actually play. But you could play, as long as you had a coin. And you would. This looks like it will end up having so much DRM, you can't even play the game...but you still pay.
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#12
Steevo
dozenfury said:
I don't mind if devs want to put 18 layers of protection in their games. Just don't slow down our game performance for them. It's the same reason people don't run 6 different anti-viruses at once.
The thing you are asking for is not possible, you cannot make more bread by cutting it into smaller pieces.

DRM in all forms degrades performance, making the pirate version more appealing. Add the security holes that the DRM create and you have a recipe for disaster. Remember Sony and their DRM rootkit? Securom and BSOD. VMware is a screen door on a submarine.
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#13
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Watch as its hacked in 15 minutes
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#14
Bansaku
Just stop already eh! It's not worth it! It's pointless! You won't win! I will bet the house that the licensing fees for the anti-crack software outweighs the actual "potential" revenue lost by pirating! Does EA actually think that they would get $60 out of me if a game can not be cracked? Bwahahahahaha, fat chance! Why? Simple, I don't buy shit games! I don't support publishers who could care less about their customers rather only their bottom line. I have never pirated an indy game, EVER! Never have, never will! Ubisoft....well.... :rolleyes:
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#15
Hawkster222
RejZoR said:
How about you corporate idiots start treating gamers like customers and not thieves by default? Imagine coming to a store and they strip search you every single time before you exit. Would you still buy there? Why the F people still buy games infested with DRM crapware? Garbage like this made me buy on GOG even if prices are higher and they often aren't. They run the zero DRM policy and I love them because of it. And Denuvo is now gonna stick DRM on top of DRM. Is this a Xzibit meme or something? Expecting such game to work after 5 years on a newly released major OS release would be nothing but a miracle. Because I can assure you it won't work anymore. Just like every single god damn game when we transitioned from Win98 to Win2000/XP and from XP to Vista and from Vista to 7 and from 7 to 8 and so on. Exactly the same game without any of DRM (the pirated ones) work flawlessly. This tells me to pirate games instead of spending 60€ on them and then getting rammed from behind sans lube.

Stop buying games that have such invasive DRM. Have some principles people and show them a middle finger. And make negative mentions all over the internetz about it.
I am going admit , these guys that crack Denuvo its a sport for them a challenge , I am also certian it is harder to find a torrent of a game with no DRM protection then it is to find one with DRM protection .
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#16
Readlight
They all sucks for offline players Steam, Origin, Uplay. And stop buying, playing games who are built bad and works slow on your cpu.
My brother still wants best game ww2 in disk. but to expensive.
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#17
GenericAMDFan
lexluthermiester said:
I predict this will be cracked very quickly.
eidairaman1 said:
Watch as its hacked in 15 minutes
It took months until they cracked ACO so the quickly is probably wrong.
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#18
Parn
Those idiots don't seem to understand that DRMs actually hurt sales. Here is a simple breakdown:

100 players split into 3 groups:
  • 20 seasoned pirates (or players who just don't have the funds to buy new games) -> They will always seek to crack the game no matter whether there is DRM or not -> No sale
  • 30 wealthy players who always get the game on the launch day -> They will always buy the game on the launch day regardless if there is DRM -> Sure sale
  • 50 wary players who always check the price, contents and also whether there is any intrusive and performance degrading DRM which might also stop working in the future rendering the game completely dead -> The more layers of DRMs implemented, the more expensive and system resource heavy the game becomes -> Diminishing sale, moving to the pirate camp
As you can see from the above, the more layers of DRMs, the less buyers.
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#19
TheinsanegamerN
All this DRM is invasive, sucks up performance, and is a major inconvenience to paying customers.

I didnt buy the new DOOM because it had denuvo. I havent bought any game that uses denuvo, and never will. I have a huge library on GoG to play, and wont waste my money on locked down AAA garbage. Plenty of indie games and smaller studios refuse DRM, and their games are inherently better for it.

But much like driving their audiences away with micro-transactions and pay-2-win, publishers wont realise this DRM is hurting them until sales tank.
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#20
lexluthermiester
GenericAMDFan said:
It took months until they cracked ACO so the quickly is probably wrong.
How would you know that? The group that did the cracking didn't say when they started working on it. Just because D4.8 has been out for a while does mean they've been working on it all that time. For all you know the time it took to crack could have been hours only. And historically, that's about par for the course. Few hours, maybe a few days at the most.

The people creating the denuvo crap are smart. The people cracking it are smart. The difference is a moral and ethical one. One set of smart people are trying to prevent piracy at the cost of treating us gamers like criminals and stepping all over us and our rights. The other set of smart people are doing what they do for fun, but also to send a message and prove that the effort of the other group is waste of time.

When the devs and publishers realize that DRM dosn't really work effectively, alienates a large portion of their potential audience and doesn't stop pirates(at all), they will drop it all in favor of doing what is right and correct and go back to making great games.
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#22
Markosz
2018 games be like: 80% DRM, 20% actual game.
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#23
etayorius
Doom had Denuvo? damn i did not knew that... been playing the MP for a year now.
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#24
lemkeant
etayorius said:
Doom had Denuvo? damn i did not knew that... been playing the MP for a year now.
It did at launch but they took it off.
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#25
Prima.Vera
Those DRM idiots never understand that software, as cryptic as it can be, it can ALWAYS be reversed engineered (de-compiled), it just takes time and dedication.
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