Wednesday, March 7th 2018

AMD Ryzen 2000 Series "Pinnacle Ridge" Roadmap Leaked

Ahead of its launch product roadmap of AMD's next-generation performance-thru-enthusiast segment socket AM4 processors, was leaked to the web. It indicates that AMD could launch its next-generation Ryzen 2000-series "Pinnacle Ridge" processors with no more than four SKUs initially. These include the top-dog Ryzen 7 2700X, followed by the Ryzen 7 2700; the Ryzen 5 2600X, and the Ryzen 5 2600. Both Ryzen 7-series SKUs are 8-core/16-thread chips, while both Ryzen 5-series SKUs are 6-core/12-thread. There's also pricing for each of the four. The clock-speeds are also revealed below.

The Ryzen 7 2700X is being launched at a SEP of USD $369, and positioned against Intel Core i7-8700K. This is followed by the Ryzen 7 2700 being priced at $299, and fielded against Intel's multiplier-locked Core i7-8700. The Ryzen 5 2600X is, obviously, positioned against the Core i5-8600K, and priced at $249; while the Ryzen 5 2600 is priced at an attractive $199, and looks to disrupt several of Intel's Core i5 6-core SKUs around its price-point. Unlike many of Intel's SKUs, all AMD Ryzen chips feature unlocked multiplier, SMT, and a cooling solution. That's right, even the top-dog 2700X and 2600X include coolers, as opposed to their predecessors. The 2700X includes AMD's new Wraith Prism, while the 2600X and the other two SKUs include a Wraith Spire.
The Ryzen 7 2700X is the first socket AM4 SKU with 105W TDP. It features the highest clock speeds for the series, with 3.70 GHz nominal and 4.35 GHz boost clocks. The 2700 (non-X) is clocked at 3.20 GHz, with 4.10 GHz boost. The 2600X is clocked between 3.60~4.25 GHz, and the 2600 non-X between 3.40~3.90 GHz. One of the slides even confirms that the new AMD 400-series chipset still lacks PCI-Express gen 3.0 general-purpose lanes, leaving us to wonder what's the point behind that whole endeavor.

The slides confirm that the new chips are based on the new 12 nm silicon-fabrication process. There are some under the hood microarchitecture improvements, although the CPU core design is essentially the same (Zen). Improvements have been made to Precision Boost. The new Precision Boost 2 feature includes more fine-grained clock adjustments based on load and power. The new XFR 2.0 algorithm is even more temperature-aware in addition to power-draw aware, in serving up clock speeds beyond the boost frequency. The Precision Boost Overdrive mode pushes the boost clock to the absolute limits of the motherboard and CPU.
Sources: El Chapuzas Informático, Informatica Cero
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31 Comments on AMD Ryzen 2000 Series "Pinnacle Ridge" Roadmap Leaked

#1
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
I believe the 2700 and 2600X will be the chips to get.
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#2
Chaitanya
Looks like a logical consolidation of previous generation Ryzen CPUs into smaller no of SKUs. Looking forward to how that 2700(non-X) preforms.
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#3
Durvelle27
Got damn these are really interesting. Man we need reviews to see how far these really clock. If they can hit 4.4-4.6GHz I’m definitely buying.
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#4
Fatalfury
WTF where is the Ryzen 5 2500X ???
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#5
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
"Fatalfury said:
WTF where is the Ryzen 5 2500X ???
They are starting with these first then the rest may follow suit.

Id like to see a Threadripper+ Part
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#6
TheLostSwede
The X470 chipset is disappointing though. Apart from a few minor tweaks to enable the new overclocking features it seems to have nothing substantially new. Looks like we'll have to wait for Zen 2 to get a proper new chipset as well. Still, this was always supposed to be something of a stop gap.
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#7
Chaitanya
"eidairaman1 said:
They are starting with these first then the rest may follow suit.

Id like to see a Threadripper+ Part
If those leaked slides are correct there will be no 1500x replacement. 2700x is replacing 1700x and 1800x, 2600x is replacing 1600x and 1600 and 2600 is taking place of 1500x. Already we have 2400G replacing 1400.
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#8
theGryphon
That last slide almost looks like they're getting close to making traditional overclocking obsolete. Definitely the right path. Think about an intelligent CPU+chipset solution that benchmarks the cooling capabilities you have and depending on your wattage and max temps settings, boosts your system automagically. Awesome.
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#9
First Strike
There are SEVERE INDISCREPENCIES in figure 2, in which it claims 2400G & 2200G to have 10MB cache. But in reality, those chips only have 6MB of cache.

If these were real AMD slides, then they should be charged as commercial FRAUD. I doubt the credibility of this leak, or someone in AMD is real nut.
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#10
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
"First Strike said:
There are SEVERE INDISCREPENCIES in figure 2, in which it claims 2400G & 2200G to have 10MB cache. But in reality, those chips only have 6MB of cache.

If these were real AMD slides, then they should be charged as commercial FRAUD. I doubt the credibility of this leak, or someone in AMD is real nut.
So there's one typo, and the correct information for that typo is already in the public domain. Shouldn't affect the credibility of the rest of the slide deck.
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#11
R0H1T
"TheLostSwede said:
The X470 chipset is disappointing though. Apart from a few minor tweaks to enable the new overclocking features it seems to have nothing substantially new. Looks like we'll have to wait for Zen 2 to get a proper new chipset as well. Still, this was always supposed to be something of a stop gap.
I don't think we'll get a substantial upgrade anyway, till the time DDR5 or PCIe 4/5 enter the mainstream domain.
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#12
RejZoR
Is MD even bothering to move Zen to mobile APU's? All I kep on hearing it's desktop this, desktop that. If I waited for mobile APU I'd still not have one apparently. Are they really going to drag Stoney Ridge design for another year or two? O_o
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#13
R0H1T
"RejZoR said:
Is MD even bothering to move Zen to mobile APU's? All I kep on hearing it's desktop this, desktop that. If I waited for mobile APU I'd still not have one apparently. Are they really going to drag Stoney Ridge design for another year or two? o_O
They're probably selling as many wafers as they possibly can, including millions of consoles, if they can't fulfill the exaggerated dGPU demand what's the probability that they'd meet demand for tens of mobile SKUs? Unlike Intel AMD can't afford inventory buildup, lest we forget what happened with Llano?
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#14
IceShroom
"RejZoR said:
Is MD even bothering to move Zen to mobile APU's? All I kep on hearing it's desktop this, desktop that. If I waited for mobile APU I'd still not have one apparently. Are they really going to drag Stoney Ridge design for another year or two? o_O
May you need ask, Why OEMs' are not raleasing Ryzen APU based laptop?
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#15
RejZoR
"R0H1T said:
They're probably selling as many wafers as they possibly can, including millions of consoles, if they can't fulfill the exaggerated dGPU demand what's the probability that they'd meet demand for tens of mobile SKUs? Unlike Intel AMD can't afford inventory buildup, lest we forget what happened with Llano?
Zen is nothing like Llano. So, that assumption is silly. Hell, even Stoney Ridge is nothing like Llano despite being done on basically the same design.
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#16
R0H1T
"RejZoR said:
Zen is nothing like Llano. So, that assumption is silly. Hell, even Stoney Ridge is nothing like Llano despite being done on basically the same design.
It has nothing to do with Zen vs Llano rather the (spare) capacity at GF & TSMC. Even after releasing only about half their lineup last year, AMD was still the 3rd or 4th biggest chip manufacturer in the world after QC, Intel & probably Apple. So you have to understand that with AMD's margins it's nigh impossible for them to pay a premium for wafer capacity & I'm pretty sure QC & Apple pay that, to Sammy & TSMC.
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#17
Shamalamadingdong
"RejZoR said:
Is MD even bothering to move Zen to mobile APU's? All I kep on hearing it's desktop this, desktop that. If I waited for mobile APU I'd still not have one apparently. Are they really going to drag Stoney Ridge design for another year or two? o_O
Are we going to ignore Raven Ridge for some reason?
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#18
TheLostSwede
"R0H1T said:
I don't think we'll get a substantial upgrade anyway, till the time DDR5 or PCIe 4/5 enter the mainstream domain.
I wasn't expecting anything major, although rumours did allude to PCIe 3.0 from the chipset, which seemingly isn't the case. This would've added the possibility of a second PCIe connected SSD, similar to how Intel connects them in their mainstream platforms, i.e. via the chipset.
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#19
kunyicajsz
Is it just bothering me or there is a wrong date on two of the slides. The bottom left corner says that the NDA holds until 2017 instead of 2018.
Also there are countless sites covering the x470 chipset from january stating that it will change the pci-e 2.0 hub to pci-e 3.0

In my opinion these slides are fake with a lot of info that are possibly true (names, clock speed, cache, etc...)
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#20
RejZoR
"Shamalamadingdong said:
Are we going to ignore Raven Ridge for some reason?
Do you know in which segment Stoney Ridge falls? It's not where Raven Ridge is if you have to ask...
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#21
Shamalamadingdong
"RejZoR said:
Do you know in which segment Stoney Ridge falls? It's not where Raven Ridge is if you have to ask...
What would a Stoney Ridge successor look like to you? And what possible use case would it have that you need which Raven Ridge can't fulfill?

Stoney Ridge like Bristol will make do with Raven Ridge as a successor so you will have to get used to that.

Unless of course you want something worse than 2200U which I can't imagine anyone would.
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#23
Shamalamadingdong
"RejZoR said:
Price?
I have yet to find prices for mobile SKUs.
However there isn't a single laptop with Ryzen in it worth buying. Not yet anyway.
Perhaps upcoming ThinkPad or Elitebook are worth looking into but I suspect that isn't what you're looking for although you did not tell me what exactly you're looking for.
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#25
FlanK3r
"TheLostSwede said:
The X470 chipset is disappointing though. Apart from a few minor tweaks to enable the new overclocking features it seems to have nothing substantially new. Looks like we'll have to wait for Zen 2 to get a proper new chipset as well. Still, this was always supposed to be something of a stop gap.
Do be not worry ,-) This year something for you...
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